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[wickedgoodreed]

Well, I'm happy about this news! Giddy, in fact.

The prospect of a Leliana cameo in DA2 is part of why I ended up running through Awakening with my favorite wardens. It leaves some wiggle room in the timeline for Leliana to be off on her own adventure for a bit without retconning my warden's ending.

If Kempa is in fact voicing Leliana and not some other character, then I suspect Leli will be doing something for the Chantry per her Awakening letter.

I didn't think it was possible, but now I'm even more excited for March 8th!!!

Modifié par wickedgoodreed, 22 février 2011 - 09:27 .

[Lenimph]

If there's a Leliana cameo I want my warden to be mentioned.    Bah this makes me wish I did the threesome with Isabela... 

Running into eachother after the pearl incident 

Damn it! Why is it so hard to harden Leliana 

That wouldn't happen anyway... it would be too awesome. <_<

Modifié par Lenimph, 22 février 2011 - 09:56 .

[Zjarcal]

*has mixed feelings about possible Leli cameo*



It would only be awesome if the warden is mentioned and the relationship is acknowledged. Even more awesome if Leli turns down any flirting Hawke could do...



But overall, I agree with Whacka. I DON'T want my story ruined by a one-size-fits-all cameo where Leli doesn't acknowledge the relationship with the Warden.

[PickledGear]

DA2 in general doesn't have any LI companion I'm interested in. Isabella is tooo much like a mix of Pirates of the Carribean and Esmeralda from The HunchBack of Notre Dame. I can't really say anything though I haven't played the full game and my opinion might change. But I have a huge huge gut feeling none of them will match up to Leliana in regards to Romance.



I plan to mod DA2 for my own means to see what Leliana and Cogdale would look like with the improved engine DA2 is rockin. If there is a Leliana cameo then my entire story of ABL is messed up beyond belief. And I'll have to rewrite everything. But I think Corrine is just voicing another character.

Just like the voice actress for Eleanor Cousland is the same voice for Hawke's mother.

[wickedgoodreed]

Hmm, I can understand them repurposing Eleanor Cousland's voice actress for a new character because she only played a minor role in DAO.

But it's harder for me to believe that they would use Corinne Kempa as any other character in the DA franchise than Leliana. She's a much more significant character who is loved (or sometimes hated, which I'll never understand) in large part for her voice.


Now you guys have me worried though. Would TPTB really bring Leliana back for a cameo without having her mention something about her background with the warden?  That seems to me like it would be such a massive waste of an opportunity.

[PickledGear]

Well in the credits of the demo it shows the voice actors for Alistair and Zevran are also in the game. So I don't know. Maybe they will have cameos. I can imagine Alistair would if he is king of ferelden in the end of someones story and having to talk to Hawke perhaps.

[Lenimph]

SPARTAN 089-Gary wrote...

DA2 in general doesn't have any LI companion I'm interested in. Isabella is tooo much like a mix of Pirates of the Carribean and Esmeralda from The HunchBack of Notre Dame.

Wait this is bad ?

Anyway it would be weird for them to get Corinne and not use her for a cameo while she was working for them. So I think we can expect one.  I just hope it works out.  

And I hope I can recognize her. 

Modifié par Lenimph, 23 février 2011 - 02:18 .

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

As long as there's a reference to her relationship with the Warden and her cameo is handled with respect, I'm totally cool.

I'd actually like to see Leliana with the updated graphics very much. I think we shold be able to recognize her, looking at the way they handled Anders.

[Axekix]

Zjarcal wrote...

But overall, I agree with Whacka. I DON'T want my story ruined by a one-size-fits-all cameo where Leli doesn't acknowledge the relationship with the Warden.

Well, if we're importing pretty much all the DAO flags, I have a feeling Bioware won't disappoint.  They did a fair job with romnance continuity in ME anyway (and those romances aren't nearly as developed).

[Face of Evil]

Lenimph wrote...

SPARTAN 089-Gary wrote...

DA2 in general doesn't have any LI companion I'm interested in. Isabella is tooo much like a mix of Pirates of the Carribean and Esmeralda from The HunchBack of Notre Dame.

Wait this is bad ?

My thoughts exactly.

You know, it doesn't need to be a Leliana cameo, specifically. Bioware is in the habit of re-using voice actors.

Besides, I have this dread feeling that if Leliana shows up in DA2, it means that she's split from the Warden.

[OldMan91]

Face of Evil wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

SPARTAN 089-Gary wrote...

DA2 in general doesn't have any LI companion I'm interested in. Isabella is tooo much like a mix of Pirates of the Carribean and Esmeralda from The HunchBack of Notre Dame.

Wait this is bad ?

My thoughts exactly.

You know, it doesn't need to be a Leliana cameo, specifically. Bioware is in the habit of re-using voice actors.

Besides, I have this dread feeling that if Leliana shows up in DA2, it means that she's split from the Warden.

Maybe the Warden and Leliana have split, but not for the reasons you think. Maybe as Hawke you meet Leliana, who tells you that she's looking for someone dear to her, all the while not knowing that the Warden has left for his/her calling, and the Warden never told Leliana so as not to break her heart. Wouldn't that be deliciously tragic and awful?

Modifié par OldMan91, 23 février 2011 - 05:46 .

[Zjarcal]

OldMan91 wrote...

Maybe the Warden and Leliana have split, but not for the reasons you think. Maybe as Hawke you meet Leliana, who tells you that she's looking for someone dear to her, all the while not knowing that the Warden has left for his/her calling, and the Warden never told Leliana so as not to break her heart. Wouldn't that be deliciously tragic and awful?

OMG, DO NOT WANT!!!!

I don't want Bioware to handle my warden's relationship for her.

[wickedgoodreed]

OldMan91 wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

My thoughts exactly.

You know, it doesn't need to be a Leliana cameo, specifically. Bioware is in the habit of re-using voice actors.

Besides, I have this dread feeling that if Leliana shows up in DA2, it means that she's split from the Warden.

Maybe the Warden and Leliana have split, but not for the reasons you think. Maybe as Hawke you meet Leliana, who tells you that she's looking for someone dear to her, all the while not knowing that the Warden has left for his/her calling, and the Warden never told Leliana so as not to break her heart. Wouldn't that be deliciously tragic and awful?

  I second Zjar....DO. NOT. WANT. My warden would never be that horrifingly unthougtful.

I really don't see a split up happening though. That would require the writers to go out of their way to upset the very fans who would presumably enjoy a Leliana cameo the most.

The worst I can see them doing is making it ambiguous by not mentioning the warden at all. And depending on the context of the cameo, it could make sense that the warden doesn't necessarily come up in conversation, I imagine.

Unless Leliana explicitly says otherwise, I wouldn't believe that they split up. Anything short of that can be explained away by their time spent apart during the events of Awakening and/or Witch Hunt. Or by imagination.... The warden is not with Leliana at that precise moment because she's too busy chasing off after an escaped subterranean bunny pig throughout the shoe district of Hightown's bazaar.

[Face of Evil]

The timelines wouldn't work; the Warden has roughly thirty years before going on the Calling, and Hawke's story is supposed to last ten. And that would be a little too spiteful on the part of the writers, as it would basically make the Warden out to be a tremendous ****.



More likely is that, if Leliana actually does make a cameo in DA2, she and the Warden have simply broken up, and she decided to leave Ferelden/wherever the Warden ended up. People do fall out of love, after all. And while Bioware can't dictate how the Warden feels, they ultimately determine Leliana's destiny.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 23 février 2011 - 06:30 .

[Zjarcal]

Face of Evil wrote...
People do fall out of love, after all. And while Bioware can't dictate how the Warden feels, they ultimately determine Leliana's destiny.

Yes they can, which is why I don't wany any cameos or any more Leli stuff at all.

EDIT: Things ended perfectly in Origins. Let's keep it that way.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 23 février 2011 - 06:35 .

[flexxdk]

Zjarcal wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...
People do fall out of love, after all. And while Bioware can't dictate how the Warden feels, they ultimately determine Leliana's destiny.

Yes they can, which is why I don't wany any cameos or any more Leli stuff at all.

EDIT: Things ended perfectly in Origins. Let's keep it that way.

I couldn't agree any more with this.

I'd be stupefied if Leliana and my Warden would break up... eventually.

As Zjarcal stated, things ended perfectly in Origins. And that's how we should keep it.

[HolyAvenger]

Hmm, I'm undecided. If BioWare decided to break-up the Warden and Leliana that would fit perfectly in the tone of the setting and BW's love of NO HAPPY ENDINGS EVAR!



I think its most likely she'll just be on her own, perhaps on a mission for the Chantry from Orlais. Oh my how deliciously evil...maybe she'll be a sort of antagonist for Hawke. Now that would be a good twist.

[Zjarcal]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Hmm, I'm undecided. If BioWare decided to break-up the Warden and Leliana that would fit perfectly in the tone of the setting and BW's love of NO HAPPY ENDINGS EVAR!

That's why I'm glad Gaider didn't write her in Origins. Gaider is the main believer of "no happy endings for love stories"... <_<

I think its most likely she'll just be on her own, perhaps on a mission for the Chantry from Orlais. Oh my how deliciously evil...maybe she'll be a sort of antagonist for Hawke. Now that would be a good twist.

Now that WOULD be awesome!

[Lenimph]

wickedgoodreed wrote...


The warden is not with Leliana at that precise moment because she's too busy chasing off after an escaped subterranean bunny pig throughout the shoe district of Hightown's bazaar.

I like this... 

[Face of Evil]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I think its most likely she'll just be on her own, perhaps on a mission for the Chantry from Orlais. Oh my how deliciously evil...maybe she'll be a sort of antagonist for Hawke. Now that would be a good twist.

Wouldn't Hawke have to kill her then? No thanks.

[HolyAvenger]

Face of Evil wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I think its most likely she'll just be on her own, perhaps on a mission for the Chantry from Orlais. Oh my how deliciously evil...maybe she'll be a sort of antagonist for Hawke. Now that would be a good twist.

Wouldn't Hawke have to kill her then? No thanks.

Not necessarily. There were plenty of opportunities to let defeated foes go in DAO. Or maybe you could persuade her to change her mind (Leli isn't exactly the most orthodox Chantry follower). Or maybe she makes her escape. Or maybe they do give Hawke the RP choice to kill her.

Modifié par HolyAvenger, 24 février 2011 - 04:26 .

[Face of Evil]

Well, Leliana could be on a mission to kill Hawke …



Actually, here's what I would like to see: a DLC where Leliana appears requesting the aid of the Champion of Kirkwall (and the head of its templars) in completing some mission on behalf of the Chantry. Perhaps the recovery of the Tears of Andraste? Or a Tevinter relic? I could think of something appropriate given some more time.



It would work if Leliana was hardened or unhardened, as she would probably undertake a mission for the Chantry either way. (As a bard, she would do it for money. As a former lay sister, she would do it out of faith.)



That would also accomodate those dinks who killed Leliana in their regular game, since they wouldn't have to get the DLC. (There would still be whining about DLC, but there's ALWAYS whining about DLC.)

[Zjarcal]

Lenimph wrote...

wickedgoodreed wrote...


The warden is not with Leliana at that precise moment because she's too busy chasing off after an escaped subterranean bunny pig throughout the shoe district of Hightown's bazaar.

I like this... 

I forgot to quote this, but yes, tis awesome!

[ZeRoToXiN]

I would not want to see a Leliana cameo in DA2. Although there are many ways it could be justified without even mentioning the Warden.

I actually don't like the idea of ther being too many cameos/connections to the Warden, Hawke is a new and different hero whose story is very much separate from the Warden's, apart from a somewhat similar beginning. Although, I do wonder, it would be interesting to see Hawke make a comment about meeting the Warden a Ostagar... There's so many variables there, though.

And I also do not care for any of the LI's in DA2, at least for my male Hawke, who will be my main char and my 'canon' continuation of my main DA warden. He'll probably go through with no romance, focues solely on his mission and his duty (unless Isabella grows on him...) For my LadyHawke, both Anders and Fenris seem ok, but I've actually never played a female character long enough to get to the romance part... ever, in any game.

Heh, it sounds like I'm being so negative here, not wanting/caring for so many things. While I'm at it, I might as well say I don't like Varric and there's something very off about Cassandra in the demo. But I'm honestly psyched for DA2, even moreso after the demo, and I'm not complaining, I'm very interested with where the story will go.

Modifié par ZeRoToXiN, 24 février 2011 - 08:11 .