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The Bard from Orlais - A Leliana Appreciation thread


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#8951
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DA2 does not recognize that Leliana was romanced in Origins because the flag is not imported.

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Zjarcal

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The flag is imported, it's the approval issue that borks things.

@Master Shiori

Did Leli mention that the warden was "dear to her heart"? That's what she says when the import is working properly and recognizes the relationship as active. Otherwise, the approval issue takes priority (where approval is set to zero, and the game thinks the relationship was ended), and Leli only says that she knew you but that was a long time ago.

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Master Shiori

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Zjarcal wrote...

@Master Shiori

Did Leli mention that the warden was "dear to her heart"? That's what she says when the import is working properly and recognizes the relationship as active. Otherwise, the approval issue takes priority (where approval is set to zero, and the game thinks the relationship was ended), and Leli only says that she knew you but that was a long time ago.


Ah, I see. :huh:

No, in that cased it was bugged in all my playthroughs as well. She only said that she wrote songs about her time with my Warden, but that it happened a long time ago.

I wasn't even aware that she was supposed to say the "dear to her heart" line.

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Just stoppin by to say Hi to all -- me thinks Leli will be in DA3 or in a DLC coming up...

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Zjarcal wrote...

Did Leli mention that the warden was "dear to her heart"?

God, when she says that I just melt. Like goo.

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OldMan91 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Did Leli mention that the warden was "dear to her heart"?

God, when she says that I just melt. Like goo.

I've had to replay Origins 3 times, and DA2 3 times just to hear that line.
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, what's that?

#8957
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Not to boast but I've played Origins around 10 times through now. 7 of those were my Warden Cogdale with Leliana XD.
I've played DA2 3 times but I've lost interest, thankfully that "Apology"(ME2) from Bioware is keeping me occupied. After ME2 back to playing DAO another time through.

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SPARTAN 089-Gary wrote...

Not to boast but I've played Origins around 10 times through now. 7 of those were my Warden Cogdale with Leliana XD.

I'm not saying it to brag. It's more of a self-depreciative joke than anything else. Don't read it as "I managed to beat Origins three times!" Think of it as "I am so obsessed with getting a single sentence of no plot relevance in one game, that I replayed another game, doing the exact same thing, 3 times!"

Modifié par GSSAGE7, 14 avril 2011 - 10:11 .


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I'll import a Leliana romancing Warden save directly from Origins just to hear that line.

I've finished DA2 7 times so far and plan to keep replaying it with new characters. I probably won't reach 30 characters like I did with DA:O, but the game sure is fun. 

Now, if only Bioware finaly released some damn DLC...

Modifié par Master Shiori, 14 avril 2011 - 10:29 .


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 *Phew*

Longest chapter I've written....

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And on topic! The line that sends chills up my spine is simply " Or you may call me Leliana" The way she rolls the "Ls" in her name was done absolutely perfectly!!

Modifié par SPARTAN 089-Gary, 15 avril 2011 - 09:23 .


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Master Shiori wrote...

I'll import a Leliana romancing Warden save directly from Origins just to hear that line.

Does that work? Not sure if any of the choices I made in Awakening are more important to me than making sure Leliana imports correctly...

Zeleen wrote...

Just stoppin by to say Hi to all -- me thinks Leli will be in DA3 or in a DLC coming up...

Can't imagine they retconned her back to life (they say it isn't a retcon but c'maan!) just to cameo twice. Looking forward to it!

Modifié par nerdage, 18 avril 2011 - 03:44 .


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nerdage wrote...

Does that work? Not sure if any of the choices I made in Awakening are more important to me than making sure Leliana imports correctly...


http://social.biowar...m/project/4364/

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Ooh, fancy that, thanks. Too bad I've basically got a bunch of DA2 characters I'd be afraid to import into any new content just because I don't trust that they imported from DAO correctly, here's to hoping that's all sorted at some point.

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Meh, I think I'll just keep playing Origins (romancing Leliana every time, of course), until they patch the import bugs for the console.

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Whacka wrote...

Ioini wrote...

I felt that the Leliana romance was underplayed, I mean she compliments me on being "sweet and attentive" but I can't kiss her in public? Getting the feeling that Bioware is biased towards Morrigan fans.

There are mods that "fix" this particular issue... ;)


Yeah, I looked it up myself. It's so much better then in the vanilla game. I just love her giggle after someone comments on our public display of affection. I love repeating the love scene sometimes. <3

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Ioini wrote...

Whacka wrote...

Ioini wrote...

I felt that the Leliana romance was underplayed, I mean she compliments me on being "sweet and attentive" but I can't kiss her in public? Getting the feeling that Bioware is biased towards Morrigan fans.

There are mods that "fix" this particular issue... ;)


Yeah, I looked it up myself. It's so much better then in the vanilla game. I just love her giggle after someone comments on our public display of affection. I love repeating the love scene sometimes. <3

Oh, I just melt when I hear her giggle. :wub:

Besides, every Warden deserves some nice "spare time" to do "other kinds of stuff", right? ;)

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Hey, long time no post. I finally got around to playing the Faith quest with Leliana in it; I was actually pretty happy with her cameo, I had forgetten how sweet her voice is, it has been so long. And when she says "He was dear to my heart" and "You may call me Leliana"... She also looks so much prettier in DA2, with the darker hair and deeper, bluer eyes... Ah, it makes me want to replay DAO again, but I have so many other games I want to play too and so little time...

Also, is it any different if the warden had romanced her and lived versus having sacrificed?

And I find it hard to imagine how some of you guys manage to play DA2 so many times in such a short period of time. Heck, I've barely finished my first playthrough. Origins I understand, I can see myslef playing through that a fe more times hopefully, but DA2 just gets so repetitive I sometimes found it hard to go on by the time i got to Act 3. Maybe I'll play DAO one more time and import that into DA2 (on the xbox) one more time in a year or so, but I can't see myself playing through 2 more than twice...

Modifié par ZeRoToXiN, 19 avril 2011 - 07:03 .


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ZeRoToXiN wrote...

She also looks so much prettier in DA2, with the darker hair and deeper, bluer eyes...

Apparently, we got lucky. The other 2 appearing love interests look worse.
I shall take this as evidence that Bioware likes Leliana more.

And to keep this from getting off topic, did anyone leave Leliana at the gates when storming Denerim? I only just now tried it after realizing that she'd have a different line, and I had a tear in my eye when she said "Win this war for us and... come home"

Modifié par GSSAGE7, 19 avril 2011 - 06:08 .


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Her hair is the essentially same color; the room you see her in has dark lighting...

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GSSAGE7 wrote...

ZeRoToXiN wrote...

She also looks so much prettier in DA2, with the darker hair and deeper, bluer eyes...

Apparently, we got lucky. The other 2 appearing love interests look worse.
I shall take this as evidence that Bioware likes Leliana more.

And to keep this from getting off topic, did anyone leave Leliana at the gates when storming Denerim? I only just now tried it after realizing that she'd have a different line, and I had a tear in my eye when she said "Win this war for us and... come home"

We'll see what happens with Morrigan, but we were always going to be better off than Zevran and Alistair fans, their characters didn't even get their own DLC. ;)

I left her at the gate on the save I've been importing into DA2, I only took Loghain with me to fight the archdemon, but that was more because I liked the idea from a story point of view than to see her other dialogue. I think I preferred her dialogue when she's left at the gate but I got the feeling she resented being left behind "for her own safety", which nagged at me for a bit.

Modifié par nerdage, 19 avril 2011 - 10:39 .


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nerdage wrote...

GSSAGE7 wrote...

Did anyone leave Leliana at the gates when storming Denerim? I only just now tried it after realizing that she'd have a different line, and I had a tear in my eye when she said "Win this war for us and... come home"


I left her at the gate on the save I've been importing into DA2, I only took Loghain with me to fight the archdemon, but that was more because I liked the idea from a story point of view than to see her other dialogue. I think I preferred her dialogue when she's left at the gate but I got the feeling she resented being left behind "for her own safety", which nagged at me for a bit.

It's pretty obvious that she wanted to go with you. When you bring her with you, you can ask if she wants to stay, and she pretty much says "No, I want to be with you." If you don't let her come with you, she mentions that she's more scared about not being able to protect you.
From a story point of view, though, it still makes sense for me to do it. Once Riordan told the Grey Warden's other little secret, my Warden tried to break up with Leliana, until she went on that short bit on "love is". Throw that in adittion with the shock of "One of us is going to die tommorow" and you get someone desperate enough to go for Morrigan's ritual, and he'd want to keep her as close to him as he can.

Modifié par GSSAGE7, 20 avril 2011 - 10:12 .


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Bah you know what I hated how you don't get to talk to her at all the night when the Dark Ritual takes place other then the typical stuff.

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Lenimph wrote...

Bah you know what I hated how you don't get to talk to her at all the night when the Dark Ritual takes place other then the typical stuff.


God I wanted to have a conversation with her about it, Like if she approved or not, I didn't like doing it behind her back. I mean she tells us who she really is and spills her guts out to us. And what do we do? We secretly have sex with Morrigan. I know Morrigan says that Leliana would allow us to do so but still a heart felt conversation on what she thought would've been a nice touch.

Well for us Male Wardens who romanced her anyways. The Final battle gate kiss mod only works for Zevran it seems I was hoping that Leliana would do it as well but nothing ever happened. When you leave her at the gate it seems appropriate for a last kiss.

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It works for Leliana as well.

It must be a mod conflict that is hampering you.

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Well I also have Dialogue Tweaks so I could kiss her wherever I wanted and listen to In Uthenera all the time. But it seems Tweaks causes alot of issues.