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[Master Shiori]

If the Warden gets featured in DA3, I'm sooo kidnapping Leliana away from the Divine Justinia at the end. She's not getting that bard back even if it means sending an Exalted March against my Warden.

@Leni

That Bethany/Leliana drawing is nice, but I don't think Bethany ever mentioned Leliana in any of my playthroughs. Is that from her banter with Isabela or a comment she makes at a particular place, like the Chantry?

[Zjarcal]

Master Shiori wrote...
That Bethany/Leliana drawing is nice, but I don't think Bethany ever mentioned Leliana in any of my playthroughs. Is that from her banter with Isabela or a comment she makes at a particular place, like the Chantry?

She does in the Chantry if you click on her...

"I miss the Chantry in Lothering. Sister Leliana told the best stories!"

[GSSAGE7]

Zjarcal wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...
That Bethany/Leliana drawing is nice, but I don't think Bethany ever mentioned Leliana in any of my playthroughs. Is that from her banter with Isabela or a comment she makes at a particular place, like the Chantry?

She does in the Chantry if you click on her...

"I miss the Chantry in Lothering. Sister Leliana told the best stories!"

Aveline has a similiar line, "I don't trust chantry sisters. Ever sense that red haired trickster in Lothering."
What did everyone's favorite red-head do to the other, not as interesting, red-head in Thedas, I wonder...

[Zjarcal]

Ahem, Aveline's awesome... just saying.

Anyway, I also would like to know what could Leli have done to earn Aveline's mistrust. Lenimph speculated that maybe her husband had a crush on Leliana.

[KnightofPhoenix]

"The Maker speaks to me" is probably enough reason.

[Zjarcal]

Probably, although I don't think Leli was telling that to everyone in town (or was she?).

It'd be funny if she also presented the idea of tagging along to Aveline... that conversation would've been fun.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 11 mai 2011 - 05:04 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

From what the guardian said (and I think there is a lot of truth in what he said), Leliana probably did not hide her feelings / thoughts on this. Or it was all an elaborate disguise for her Seeker schemes.

Or, she might have told Aveline that they should go shopping together

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 11 mai 2011 - 05:08 .

[bleetman]

Leliana loves stories, and seems to take a lot of pleasure in their telling. She's apparently memorized the tale of Aveline the Great by heart, or at least well enough to recite whenever it takes her fancy.

Aveline hates that God damned story with the passion of a thousand burning suns.

I can imagine what happened if the two of them met.

Modifié par bleetman, 11 mai 2011 - 05:09 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Or she hates the story about Aveline because she met Leliana.

[Zjarcal]

Maybe a combination of the two. Perhaps she first met Leli and heard her say how the Maker speaks with her and then hearing Leliana tell a story of her namesake made her go ballistic.

[GSSAGE7]

But she used the word "trickster" to describe Leliana. I can't really think of anything she's done that isn't speculation that defines her as a trickster.

[flexxdk]

bleetman wrote...

Damnit Leliana. You're supposed to be adventuring alongside the warden, not gallivanting off playing ninja-nun. If DA3 doesn't feature the Warden smacking the Divine, I'll be very disappointed.

I'll be kickin' the Divine's ***... like a boss.

Seriously, Leliana is supposed be traveling with my Warden. And now that's retconned. Perhaps I should retcon the DA2 events in my fanfic and dismiss them as not worth mentioning...

Either way, Leliana drew the short end of the stick again.

And to demonstrate how I felt when I found this out (and started to think about things):

Finding it a bit odd the urn of sacred ashes is mentioned in her death slide. I mean, if you defile the ashes, I was under the impression the temple was never found and/or demolished by an irate high dragon.

As I said earlier:
"BioWare just could've said "...And then the Urn toppled over and fell on Leliana's body, bringing her back to life... and reattaching her head to her body. Like a boss."

Well, not exactly in those words, but I have to remain positive! 

Modifié par Whacka, 11 mai 2011 - 06:33 .

[GSSAGE7]

Whacka wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Damnit Leliana. You're supposed to be adventuring alongside the warden, not gallivanting off playing ninja-nun. If DA3 doesn't feature the Warden smacking the Divine, I'll be very disappointed.

I'll be kickin' the Divine's ***... like a boss.

Seriously, Leliana is supposed be traveling with my Warden. And now that's retconned. Perhaps I should retcon the DA2 events in my fanfic and dismiss them as not worth mentioning...

Either way, Leliana drew the short end of the stick again.

Well I suspect being roped into being Fereldan's Commander of the Grey didn't make it easy to go on awesome adventures anymore. My personal canon has the Wardens spending the entire 6 months between Origins and Awakening going "Damn it, why are these two so hard to find?!" anyway.

[PickledGear]

GSSAGE7 wrote...

Whacka wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Damnit Leliana. You're supposed to be adventuring alongside the warden, not gallivanting off playing ninja-nun. If DA3 doesn't feature the Warden smacking the Divine, I'll be very disappointed.

I'll be kickin' the Divine's ***... like a boss.

Seriously, Leliana is supposed be traveling with my Warden. And now that's retconned. Perhaps I should retcon the DA2 events in my fanfic and dismiss them as not worth mentioning...

Either way, Leliana drew the short end of the stick again.

Well I suspect being roped into being Fereldan's Commander of the Grey didn't make it easy to go on awesome adventures anymore. My personal canon has the Wardens spending the entire 6 months between Origins and Awakening going "Damn it, why are these two so hard to find?!" anyway.

My Warden was like "FUDGE! The Grey Wardens... my feelings are more important" No but really in my canon/fan fiction My Warden flips off The First Warden via letter and says Leliana is more important. A little selfish and selfless at the same time. So the Orlesian Warden takes his place. The instant Urthemiel got a blade in his dragony skull Cogdale renounced his Wardenhood. 

[flexxdk]

SPARTAN 089-Gary wrote...
The instant Urthemiel got a blade in his dragony skull Cogdale renounced his Wardenhood. 

That seems to be the case for many other fanfics.

Not that it is a bad thing.

I'll just let my Warden become Commander and then pull the time jump card.

Scratch that. I remember posting some time ago that Leliana tied up my Warden, gagged him, slung him over her shoulder and headed to Orlais.

Might as well do that instead.

Or just the occasional thing: no Awakenings for the Warden.

Should've done that loooong ago...

Modifié par Whacka, 11 mai 2011 - 07:13 .

[bleetman]

GSSAGE7 wrote...

My personal canon has the Wardens spending the entire 6 months between Origins and Awakening going "Damn it, why are these two so hard to find?!" anyway.

Heh, yes. I tend to imagine that those wardens I didn't import into Awakenings simply slung Leliana over a shoulder and legged it. If it wasn't for the whole Sister Nightingale thing, that actually would still work as an explanation.

Boo.

[GSSAGE7]

Seriously though, when Awakening starts, you can pretty much say "I have no idea where we are, No idea who's in charge, and no idea who my guide is, who apparently is a high level warrior."
If the Warden went willingly, and had a heads-up about where they were going, wouldn't they know a bit more?

[revan11exile]

So guys were do you think the Warden went and why did he/she leave Leliana behind because i though my Warden would spent all of his time with Leliana after he came back from DAA?

[GSSAGE7]

revan11exile wrote...
So guys were do you think the Warden went and why did he/she leave Leliana behind because i though my Warden would spent all of his time with Leliana after he came back from DAA?

Well the letter from Leliana you get suggests that the only reason she's not at the Keep is because she's with the Grand Cleric. Hell, maybe she's waiting in the Throne Room for the Warden after he slaughters The Mother.

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Shepard came galloping on an invisible horse towards Highever screaming "The Reapers are coming!" at the top of his lungs, dragged my Warden out of her bed, and the two of them disappeared trough a Stargate.

Honestly? I have no earthly idea.

[bleetman]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Shepard came galloping on an invisible horse towards Highever screaming "The Reapers are coming!" at the top of his lungs, dragged my Warden out of her bed, and the two of them disappeared trough a Stargate.

Shepard Shepard, or Shepard Shepard?

I'm just saying, I'd much rather be dragged out of bed by Joe Flanigan than Mark Meer. It's a preference I assume my Warden would share.

Modifié par bleetman, 12 mai 2011 - 12:34 .

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

bleetman wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Shepard came galloping on an invisible horse towards Highever screaming "The Reapers are coming!" at the top of his lungs, dragged my Warden out of her bed, and the two of them disappeared trough a Stargate.

Shepard Shepard, or Shepard Shepard?

I'm just saying, I'd much rather be dragged out of bed by Joe Flanigan than Mark Meer. It's a preference I assume my Warden would share.

Shepard in my avatar Shepard. And I don't blame you.

[GSSAGE7]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

bleetman wrote...

DrunkDeadman wrote...

Shepard came galloping on an invisible horse towards Highever screaming "The Reapers are coming!" at the top of his lungs, dragged my Warden out of her bed, and the two of them disappeared trough a Stargate.

Shepard Shepard, or Shepard Shepard?

I'm just saying, I'd much rather be dragged out of bed by Joe Flanigan than Mark Meer. It's a preference I assume my Warden would share.

Shepard in my avatar Shepard. And I don't blame you.

Maybe it's the fact that I'm a guy, but I'd be terrified if your avatar dragged me out of my bed. Then again, I wouldn't mind the other Shepard...

*smacks forehead multiple times* Damn it man, you like women!

Modifié par GSSAGE7, 12 mai 2011 - 01:01 .

[DigitalMonster]

I love Leliana so much! I am always torn by the fact I have to decide between her or Zevran for my Warden.

[KingJason13]

I was "Evil" on my second DAO playthrough... fully intended on ruining Andraste's ashes... was forced to kill Leilana... <sigh> ...ended up reloading and not ruiniing Andraste's ashes just so I could keep my beautiful seductress... only good deed that game!