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The Bard from Orlais - A Leliana Appreciation thread


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#9126
Master Shiori

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

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She does?
I know there's the jealous dialogue, but that's not quite the same. In addition, there's a "Morrigan must be lucky" convo, which doesn't seem too nagging, unless she's going to passive-agressive that I'm too thick to get the agressive. Which is entirely possible.


Yes, she says that the Warden is the leader of the group and he can't afford to like one more than the other, because there might come a time when he has to decide between the well being of his love and that of the group, and he might abandon the group for Morrigan. Which is not too dissimilar from what Wynne says, except Leliana sounds more jealous than convinced.

And that's the first time. Then she has other dialogues that are not nagging.


I never got that one.

Her only comments about me and Morrigan were when she said Morrigan was a lucky girl for being with the Warden and that she's happy for both of us.

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Master Shiori wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

GSSAGE7 wrote...

She does?
I know there's the jealous dialogue, but that's not quite the same. In addition, there's a "Morrigan must be lucky" convo, which doesn't seem too nagging, unless she's going to passive-agressive that I'm too thick to get the agressive. Which is entirely possible.


Yes, she says that the Warden is the leader of the group and he can't afford to like one more than the other, because there might come a time when he has to decide between the well being of his love and that of the group, and he might abandon the group for Morrigan. Which is not too dissimilar from what Wynne says, except Leliana sounds more jealous than convinced.

And that's the first time. Then she has other dialogues that are not nagging.


I never got that one.

Her only comments about me and Morrigan were when she said Morrigan was a lucky girl for being with the Warden and that she's happy for both of us.

In that video, it seems to be one of the jealousy dialogue trees (one that I never got)

#9128
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Just wanted to share a thing i find cute and funny :) if you pick
Leliana to be your love, meen after done her personal quest and all..

Anyways
after you made love to her, many times i might add hehe :) she seems
soooo VERY happy after, meen when you go and continue your missions, i
really love how good they made this game, its just like real life, after
sex and love we all so happy :D 
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I used to love mass effect the most, but now i must say i love dragon age just as much, and ive not done first playthru even ../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png
I like that its so much to do! with the dlc also that ive not started on ../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png cant wait to finish the game, and try all extra packs, then move on to dragon age 2 much love ../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png

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#9129
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Awww.. I got all of that Morrigan jealousy dialogue on my first playthrough. The last BioWare game I played before DAO was BG and I'd forgotten romances were an actual mechanic, I thought it was harmless banter, by the time I realized what I'd done they were both angry at me for cheating on them. Anyway, it all exploded in my face and I picked Morrigan in the end... If only I'd known...

D3uZ, if it isn't patched by the time you start DA2: >Link< Strongly recommended. Just saying.

Modifié par nerdage, 15 mai 2011 - 04:07 .


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I keep making characters intended to wind up with Leliana but I always go right back to Alistair. -.- I figure if I play a male character then I'll break that habit and the redhead can finally get some lovin'. She's so adorable.

It's so weird playing a guy.

As for Leliana's jealousy dialogue, she always says to my characters, "So Alistair, seems to like you huh? Just be careful. You might think that flirting with him is all fun and games but it can have an impact on... Others."

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Retrogue wrote...

I keep making characters intended to wind up with Leliana but I always go right back to Alistair. -.- I figure if I play a male character then I'll break that habit and the redhead can finally get some lovin'. She's so adorable.

Here's a solution for you, that may work (or may not, I've never tried it). Make a female human noble, and try and avoid a relationship with Alistair, and then, at the Landsmeet, if you have high approval, you can enter an arranged marriage with him (like with Anora, only not with a backstabbing witch), while still being in a loving relationship with Leliana.
At the very least, his reaction should be downright hilarious.

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Is there an IRS Leliana pack? I know there's one for Alistair. :P

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There was. They stopped working on it around the time DA2 turned up, I believe.

Modifié par bleetman, 15 mai 2011 - 05:25 .


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Retrogue wrote...

Is there an IRS Leliana pack? I know there's one for Alistair. :P

There was one coming.

I was told that those who worked on it lost interest in the project and started playing DA2. Eventually, the project leader dropped it.
I asked one of the people who worked on it if the files were still available, and if they were if I could have a copy of them. But I have never heard from that person ever again. So I assumed that the files are simply gone. Which angered me even more, of course. And what fueled it even more was the fact that the Zevran version if IRS WASN'T canceled! Makes me wonder if the modders truly lost interest or just hated Leliana.

As I said way back when I found that out:
Leliana has, once again, drawn the short end of the stick.

It's abhorable. Really. First that, and now she has also one of the worse endings (in my opinion).

Modifié par Whacka, 15 mai 2011 - 06:28 .


#9135
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Really? That sucks because there are so many mods out there to spice up the Alistair romance. There's even an IRS package for Zevran. Not sure about Morrigan though.

Modifié par Retrogue, 15 mai 2011 - 06:27 .


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Retrogue wrote...

Really? That sucks because there are so many mods out there to spice up the Alistair romance. There's even an IRS package for Zevran. Not sure about Morrigan though.

Well, that also makes me angry.

At the moment the Leliana version of IRS was under construction, I don't think Zevran's IRS was in production.

You know what? I actually don't care anymore.

First off, the epilogue tells us that our Wardens and Leliana live happily ever after.
Then, all of a sudden, my Warden is put on a bus and is separated from Leliana. ("Knew" the Hero of Ferelden? Knew?! There's something you ain't telling me!)
And most likely, my Warden will be on a loooong bus trip.

Now all that remains is a bus crash. Or they might drop a bridge on him...

P.S.: Yes, this whole post is troped. For best explanations possible.

Modifié par Whacka, 15 mai 2011 - 06:36 .


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It's disappointing, but I can't say I blame them. It's not like they were obligated to make Leliana mods too.

Now, if I could find a way to combine the leliana.dlg files for Mild Sexscenes and DT/ZDF, that'd be super. But I fail, so I can't.

Woe.

Retrogue wrote...

Really? That sucks because there are so many mods out there to spice up the Alistair romance. There's even an
IRS package for Zevran. Not sure about Morrigan though.


There's also a dialog fixpack for Zevran, and another for Morrigan. Both are great, and made to work alongside on another.

Leliana has no such packs. Plenty of little fixes, but getting them all working is a pain, mostly due to having to work every other fix pack around the immutable monolith that is Dialog Tweaks. Like I say, it's disappointing, but I can't really get worked up over it. I've done nothing about it myself, either :P I'm just glad what I actually have all works together.

Modifié par bleetman, 15 mai 2011 - 06:46 .


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nerdage wrote...

Awww.. I got all of that Morrigan jealousy dialogue on my first playthrough. The last BioWare game I played before DAO was BG and I'd forgotten romances were an actual mechanic, I thought it was harmless banter, by the time I realized what I'd done they were both angry at me for cheating on them. Anyway, it all exploded in my face and I picked Morrigan in the end... If only I'd known...

D3uZ, if it isn't patched by the time you start DA2: >Link< Strongly recommended. Just saying.



Thank you :D =]

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bleetman wrote...
 I've done nothing about it myself, either

I'd happily do something about it. But without a team, little experience, little time and no idea where to start, I doubt I'll get far.

#9140
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Just did some digging. Dialogue Tweaks and the BSC mod that's supposed to be compatible with it should do the trick for those of you looking to spruce up the Leliana romance.

Tweaks: http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=336
BSC: http://www.dragonage...file.php?id=548

As far as Leliana goes, BSC only seems to alter the cutscenes for human males, human females, and elf males.

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Whacka wrote...
I was told that those who worked on it lost interest in the project and started playing DA2. Eventually, the project leader dropped it.
I asked one of the people who worked on it if the files were still available, and if they were if I could have a copy of them. But I have never heard from that person ever again. So I assumed that the files are simply gone. Which angered me even more, of course. And what fueled it even more was the fact that the Zevran version if IRS WASN'T canceled! Makes me wonder if the modders truly lost interest or just hated Leliana.

As I said way back when I found that out:
Leliana has, once again, drawn the short end of the stick.

It's abhorable. Really. First that, and now she has also one of the worse endings (in my opinion).


Modders aren't obligated to anything, so getting angry over it and making claims that they hate Leliana and how this is abhorable, is quite frankly, pathetic.

And if you must know, the leader of the project wasn't a Leliana fan, she was doing it out of pure goodwill (although the other major contributor to the mod is a big Leliana fan). Either way, the mod is cancelled and that's that.

There are plenty of mods that fix all her bugs anyway, and there are enough romance mods that include her and give her unique scenes. Truth be told, the only thing you lost was a package that had it all in one place, no big deal.

#9142
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I think I've said this before but... if someone wants to see a mod that badly... you can get it done yourself.

In other news I am now obsessed with The Sims Medieval
http://cloud.steampo...FB9E948DFD1D7D/
http://cloud.steampo...8D3DADC52AEA58/

Modifié par Lenimph, 15 mai 2011 - 07:49 .


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Whacka wrote...

Retrogue wrote...

Really? That sucks because there are so many mods out there to spice up the Alistair romance. There's even an IRS package for Zevran. Not sure about Morrigan though.

Well, that also makes me angry.

At the moment the Leliana version of IRS was under construction, I don't think Zevran's IRS was in production.

You know what? I actually don't care anymore.

First off, the epilogue tells us that our Wardens and Leliana live happily ever after.
Then, all of a sudden, my Warden is put on a bus and is separated from Leliana. ("Knew" the Hero of Ferelden? Knew?! There's something you ain't telling me!)
And most likely, my Warden will be on a loooong bus trip.

Now all that remains is a bus crash. Or they might drop a bridge on him...

P.S.: Yes, this whole post is troped. For best explanations possible.


I think that was more of an oversight than BioWare trying to break your character and Leliana up, like Alistair mentions being king at the end of Origins even if he's not.

But still, how annoying.

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Lenimph wrote...

In other news I am now obsessed with The Sims Medieval


That outfit. In DA. Nooow.

I'm afraid of trying Sims games. The last time I did, I was attempting to fill a spare hour or so. The next thing I knew it was four in the morning and I'd missed two meals.

#9145
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@Lenimph

That's so awesome! *mansquee*

is it me, or does Sims Medieval look more realistic than 3 graphics-wise? Still stylized but less so than the previous game. I'm also with bleetman on the outfit. It rocks!

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I got a question about Leliana, I assume here is the best place to ask it. Does she have a sur name? I've never heard it mentioned. Wynne didn't have one either. And don't get me started on DA2, Hawke is the only guy with a sur name.

Modifié par Slidell505, 16 mai 2011 - 04:13 .


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Here's a drawing of Leliana and River Cousland (my warden) after Morrigan offers the "way out". I frankly hate everything about it except for his mustache, which is so unf. It's for a fic that's still a brainchild. I really don't know what I want to do with this one, if anything at all. I'm just bad at drawing men.

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#9148
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Slidell505 wrote...

I got a question about Leliana, I assume here is the best place to ask it. Does she have a sur name? I've never heard it mentioned. Wynne didn't have one either. And don't get me started on DA2, Hawke is the only guy with a sur name.

No, Leliana doesn't have one. Only the PC, Zevran, and Alistair (if he's made King) have surnames.
But DA2 has a lot of characters with surnames.
Aveline Vallen, Bethany/Carver Hawke, Sebastian Vael, and Varric Tethras. Anders may, but we don't even know his FIRST name (yeah, Anders isn't his real name, go figure). Fenris didn't even know his real name until Act 3, and didn't have the time to ask "Hey, what's my last name?" Isabela and Merril? I dunno why they don't.

Retrogue wrote...

Here's a drawing of Leliana and River
Cousland (my warden) after Morrigan offers the "way out". I frankly hate
everything about it except for his mustache, which is so unf. It's for a
fic that's still a brainchild. I really don't know what I want to do
with this one, if anything at all. I'm just bad at drawing men.

Posted Image

I assume Leliana is supposed to be angry in that picture? It's almost impossible to tell. Try changing the eyebrows.

Modifié par GSSAGE7, 16 mai 2011 - 04:39 .


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At first I gave her slanting sad panda eyebrows but she looked too... I don't know... Simpering, I guess. As much as she tries to play the good-girl card, she's tough as nails. She's supposed to be furrowing them like people do when they hear news that upsets them. She's angry but trying to resign herself to a possibility she doesn't like. I think anger would be one of many things she'd be feeling at this moment.


But yeah, her eyebrows bug me too.

Modifié par Retrogue, 16 mai 2011 - 04:56 .


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Retrogue wrote...

At first I gave her slanting sad panda eyebrows but she looked too... I don't know... Simpering, I guess. As much as she tries to play the good-girl card, she's tough as nails. She's supposed to be furrowing them like people do when they hear news that upsets them. She's angry but trying to resign herself to a possibility she doesn't like. I think anger would be one of many things she'd be feeling at this moment.


But yeah, her eyebrows bug me too.

Well River has good angry eyebrows. Hell, he seems more pissed than Leliana.