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The Bard from Orlais - A Leliana Appreciation thread


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She was what the CGI artist used as a reference for the Sacred Ashes trailer. I haven't seen or read anything that confirmed Bioware was going to use her for the in game model as well. I'm glad they didn't I don't really find anything appealing about her.

I much prefer vanilla Leliana, there's something softer and more natural about her.


I have to disagree with the Vanilla Leliana appearing more natural. Of course yes her copper red hair is more natural then Alley Katze's Blood red. But her face in vanilla seemed... small. Her eyes appeared to small and her lips were to pursed. DAII fixed that majorly though.

Same thing with Morrigan's face they made her eyes too small for Vanilla. Vanilla Leliana has what I call a Tall face or long face if you want to go via "joke". While the Alley Katze Leliana seemed... more real looking (not just because she was modeled after a real person) but in proportions it was more... correct.

This is just my opinion, but I take a real human's face over a oddly made one. Perhaps its just the DAO engine that caused it because DAII looked leagues better (oddly enough she was pretty much the only cameo and character to look better in DAII.)

Sacred Ashes Leliana wasn't soft because she seemed "hardened" in that trailer. Plus she is modeled after a gothic/punk adult model who is entirely opposite of Leliana's character. But perhaps thats why I find AlleyKatze the pinnacle of beauty. Since she is beautiful but she has a poisonous bite. Which in a way is Leliana since she seems sweet but has a dark past where she did some insidious things.

And yet I find DalishRanger's style of Leliana better then Vanilla Leliana as well so I may be prejudice.

#9477
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I'd prefer a darker red haired Leliana, although that bias may be tainted a bit because her hair just looks weird when in the campfire's light.

#9478
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Don't think I've seen any modded version of Leliana that I thought improved her default appearance any, probably because that's how I came to know her but all the different versions (including her SA appearance) just look wrong to me.

And just to add something related to the Amio picture on the previous page, I wish Leliana played an instrument in the game, there's that one behind her (whatever it is) that's never used. I'd have preferred that to singing to be honest.

Modifié par nerdage, 09 octobre 2011 - 01:31 .


#9479
Zjarcal

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The only thing I can tolerate about Leliana to be modded is her hairstyle, since a hairstyle change is a perfectly natural thing to do from time to time. But anything that touches her face is garbage in my eyes.

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Comparing the trailer to look more "natural" to DAO in terms of rendering doesn't really makes sense. Of course she looks more "realistic" the SA trailer just because they have the tools to make her so.

So yes I meant her features... the blood red hair, contact eye color, and eyeliner in the SA trailer is just ridiculous. The shape of her chin and cheeks in the SA trailer are also more rounded out. The DA2 comparison works just fine, she still has her "pursed" lips but her eyes are bigger because that's how DA2 handles eyes, but her cheek bones and chin and everything else are generally the same.

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i have never modded Leliana... Simply because i can't be Arsed.:P

But i have seen the some of the mods for her, and i think they're fine, but honestly, i don't like modding character's faces, it's out of place to me, they're not my characters, i shouldn't be able to change them(and yes yes i know, i'm among the ones who want the interchangable armors, but there is a BIG difference between interchangable clothes, and interchangable FACES), but for what is worth, i think they are nice mods,mainly the Alleykatze, particularly because it's the almost the only i've seen, everyone wants to imitate her appearance.

(oh, and as for the Chick[Alleykatze] herself.... ****ing damn, she's hot, No Doubt, but i REALLY don't like her new look, Particularly because it reminds me of This Guy, and i ****ing hate him.
But the thing that caught my attention the most, the killer, was.... People STILL use MySpace?
Ohhohohoh, Humanity.... You So Silly)

Modifié par csfteeeer, 10 octobre 2011 - 05:14 .


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I heard that Leli is in DA2 MOTA, is she?

Modifié par Yuqi, 10 octobre 2011 - 01:45 .


#9483
Nerdage

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I think I can answer conclusively (with "proof"*) but I wouldn't want to spoil anything pre-release.. Could PM it but there's already been a mod warning about posting MotA spoilers so I'd want to avoid actually posting anything, not like it's that hard to find though. 

*Kinda, sorta.


If she is though, I demand some kind of reward for absolutely calling it. B)

Modifié par nerdage, 10 octobre 2011 - 03:33 .


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Yuqi wrote...

I heard that Leli is in DA2 MOTA, is she?


Someone complimented my shoes in the DLC... :P

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nerdage wrote...
If she is though, I demand some kind of reward for absolutely calling it. B)


Pfft I called it ages ago. 

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Lenimph wrote...

nerdage wrote...
If she is though, I demand some kind of reward for absolutely calling it. B)


Pfft I called it ages ago. 

Everyone was thinking it, to be honest, I just want a reward...

Not too much to ask for is it?

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nerdage wrote...

Everyone was thinking it, to be honest, I just want a reward...

Not too much to ask for is it?

Hardly risk... but there is no prize :P

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Nerdage

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...

Shame on you.

#9489
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Yes I saw, man.. I think her and talis you know ;)

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An MotA screenshot from another thread:

Mr.House wrote...

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Our girl really gets around ...

Modifié par thats1evildude, 11 octobre 2011 - 05:14 .


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Zjarcal

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Yuqi wrote...

Yes I saw, man.. I think her and talis you know ;)


Totally... :wizard:

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thats1evildude wrote...

An MotA screenshot from another thread:

Mr.House wrote...

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Our girl really gets around ...

... So, Mark of the Assassin is totally worth it?

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GSSAGE7 wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

An MotA screenshot from another thread:

Mr.House wrote...

 Image IPB


Our girl really gets around ...

... So, Mark of the Assassin is totally worth it?


Believe me, is nothing special.
She's just there.

If you're interested in this DLC only for her, trust me, you'll be disappointed (as I was, that's really the only reason i got this DLC, i was not interested at all, if i wanted to play this, i would play the Kasumi DLC in Mass Effect 2, it's the same thing, a much better game and more than likely a better DLC, then i read that Leliana was there so i said "**** it, i'm getting it". Alas, it was a waste of money)

also i don't like how it was implemented.
It's just.... "There", it's just like the Other cameos in DA2.... simple Fanservice.

Modifié par csfteeeer, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:41 .


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DP

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MoA is nothing like Kasumis dlc, stop trolling.

#9496
csfteeeer

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Yes it is.

Stop saying it's not.

#9497
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It isn't  like the Kasumi dlc... and I don't think they did the nasty.

Then again I hate Tallis so...

All I know is Tallis seemed incredibly intmidated by Leliana while our Nightingale was the coolest of cool.  Quite the opposite of when she was reunited Isabela.

Modifié par Lenimph, 12 octobre 2011 - 05:29 .


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It isn't like Stolen Memory at all. They share a premise and that's it. The entire structure of the DLC, the way the story plays out, it's nothing at all like Stolen Memory.

And if you think telling people "stop saying it's not" will cause them to stop, think again.

#9499
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I knew that was Leliana in the background of the Serendipity video! B)

Intreresting dynamic between her and Tallis, I'd guess Tallis knows Leliana's with the chantry - and so possibly why she's there - but Leliana doesn't know she's Qunari? Whatever, I was expecting more ominous foreshadowing from Leliana, seemed like she was just chillin'.

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Zjarcal wrote...

It isn't like Stolen Memory at all. They share a premise and that's it. The entire structure of the DLC, the way the story plays out, it's nothing at all like Stolen Memory.

And if you think telling people "stop saying it's not" will cause them to stop, think again.


Well i was told to Stop Trolling, and that never actually makes people stop, so...

But whatever, i'm not about to Start an Argument over this, i'm really not interested in talking a Disappointing DLC(for a game i don't even like)

Modifié par csfteeeer, 12 octobre 2011 - 08:57 .