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The Bard from Orlais - A Leliana Appreciation thread


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ZeCollectorDestroya

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That's a good picture...

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Lenimph

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Image IPB

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It's so vague it must be about what I immediately assume it is; it's not like I'm biased so that can't be it...

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Hmm. Now I shall have to drink stella while playing DA3.

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Wishing all - Happy Holidays and a Wonderfu New Year!!

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thats1evildude

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Merry Christmas to all!

I thought I would share this small discovery with you all. This is a cutscene from The Secret World that features a voice you may recognize.

Man, those are some slow wolfmen.

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I really wanted to do the quests she gave but the one before that is a group quest and I couldn't find a group; I did try it solo but I got stomped on...

Might load up TSW again, come to think of it.

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thats1evildude wrote...

Merry Christmas to all!

I thought I would share this small discovery with you all. This is a cutscene from The Secret World that features a voice you may recognize.

Man, those are some slow wolfmen.



That's awesome -- I love the end too.   Now I wanna play TSW just for that part.

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jackofalltrades456 wrote...

Heeellloooooo... *echos*

This thread really needs to get moving again. It feels like barely any of us post in it anymore.

Perhaps we should start a new Leliana Appreciation thread in the Dragon Age 3 forums...


Only so much that can be said about a character and specially one from a series from a relatively small fandom in terms of art and fanfiction(At least in comparison to the greater, look at how much fanfic and fanart some series like Naruto or Bleach have), not to mention we still have no idea what she'll do in the series in the future.

388 is a fine number.

But yes, maybe a thread in the DA3 forums would be good.

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Anybody still in here? I've hit a bug, of sorts, in my Leliana romance, and was wondering if anyone else had it before/ knew how to tackle it.

The very last romance discussion - the one where she invites you to bed, etc, etc, and you can have some fun dialogue with a Warden who is completely blind to what Leliana is suggesting - isn't triggering for me. Checking on the DA wiki, it looks like it's supposed to trigger during a romance, and at 91 approval. I do have the "Let's go to bed" option available though.

I think the problem is that I've been at very high approval with Leliana since quite early in the game, possibly before I initiated a romance with her. Every other conversation has happened, but I've heard of bugs caused using the Feastday Gifts (which I haven't used) to make approval rise too quickly, and I was wondering if this might be related.

Any help would be appreciated, cheers.

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JasonShepard wrote...

Anybody still in here? I've hit a bug, of sorts, in my Leliana romance, and was wondering if anyone else had it before/ knew how to tackle it.

The very last romance discussion - the one where she invites you to bed, etc, etc, and you can have some fun dialogue with a Warden who is completely blind to what Leliana is suggesting - isn't triggering for me. Checking on the DA wiki, it looks like it's supposed to trigger during a romance, and at 91 approval. I do have the "Let's go to bed" option available though.

I think the problem is that I've been at very high approval with Leliana since quite early in the game, possibly before I initiated a romance with her. Every other conversation has happened, but I've heard of bugs caused using the Feastday Gifts (which I haven't used) to make approval rise too quickly, and I was wondering if this might be related.

Any help would be appreciated, cheers.


No, the problem is you triggered it already outside of camp -- it's a vanilla game bug.  I'll explain.  In the vanilla game, the dialog tree can trigger any place -- in camp or outside of camp.  And it's set to trigger only once per game.  Now, she will only actually talk if she's in camp -- outside of camp it will just skip to the end, but the conversation tree won't happen again.

The trigger for this dialog is her falling in love (so 91+ romantic approval + personal quest being finished), so after Marjolaine, don't click on her anywhere if her approval is that high but camp until this happens.  If it's isn't that high, be careful outside of camp that you don't get to that range and click on her.

Unfortunately, for this bug, the only way to fix it is to revert to an earlier save.  Since it's based on a conversation trigger, messing with flags and approval ratings won't do a thing.

I do fix it in both ZDF and my standalone Leliana fix (which is the same as the one in ZDF) -- ensuring that the dialog only triggers in camp -- but in this case, installing it won't do any good either.

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 janvier 2013 - 03:07 .


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ejoslin wrote...

JasonShepard wrote...

Anybody still in here? I've hit a bug, of sorts, in my Leliana romance, and was wondering if anyone else had it before/ knew how to tackle it.

The very last romance discussion - the one where she invites you to bed, etc, etc, and you can have some fun dialogue with a Warden who is completely blind to what Leliana is suggesting - isn't triggering for me. Checking on the DA wiki, it looks like it's supposed to trigger during a romance, and at 91 approval. I do have the "Let's go to bed" option available though.

I think the problem is that I've been at very high approval with Leliana since quite early in the game, possibly before I initiated a romance with her. Every other conversation has happened, but I've heard of bugs caused using the Feastday Gifts (which I haven't used) to make approval rise too quickly, and I was wondering if this might be related.

Any help would be appreciated, cheers.


No, the problem is you triggered it already outside of camp -- it's a vanilla game bug.  I'll explain.  In the vanilla game, the dialog tree can trigger any place -- in camp or outside of camp.  And it's set to trigger only once per game.  Now, she will only actually talk if she's in camp -- outside of camp it will just skip to the end, but the conversation tree won't happen again.

The trigger for this dialog is her falling in love (so 91+ romantic approval + personal quest being finished), so after Marjolaine, don't click on her anywhere if her approval is that high but camp until this happens.  If it's isn't that high, be careful outside of camp that you don't get to that range and click on her.

Unfortunately, for this bug, the only way to fix it is to revert to an earlier save.  Since it's based on a conversation trigger, messing with flags and approval ratings won't do a thing.

I do fix it in both ZDF and my standalone Leliana fix (which is the same as the one in ZDF) -- ensuring that the dialog only triggers in camp -- but in this case, installing it won't do any good either.


THANK-YOU. Now I just have to find out what stage in the story I finished off Marjolaine's quest - and I have a bad feeling it was before both the Dwarves and the Dalish (I'm currently at the Landsmeet). This could set me back a while...

(Installing wouldn't help me in any case - I'm on 360...)

Thanks again.

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I feelz for you, man. I hit that bug myself and go all the way through the Circle tower again.

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thats1evildude wrote...

I feelz for you, man. I hit that bug myself and go all the way through the Circle tower again.


It's worse than I thought - I have to do Sacred Ashes again as well. Goodbye 40 hours of gameplay...

Ah well, fighting that High Dragon was fun the first time, I'm sure it'll be fun on the second. Even if this is my Nightmare, no Mage, Dog-always-in-party playthrough...

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Is it feasible to go back to see the scene and then continue from where you are now? There are no changes to the romance by going through that scene.

Sorry it wasn't better news :(  This is one of the more serious bugs that I wish BW had addressed.

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 janvier 2013 - 09:02 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Is it feasible to go back to see the scene and then continue from where you are now? There are no changes to the romance.

Sorry it wasn't better news :(


Yeah - I think that's probably what I'm going to do. Frustrating, but hey. I'll keep a save game in place for the next time I want to do a playthrough, and just start from that point to save time.

It's not the end of the world - I think this is my 3rd or 4th playthrough at this point, and it certainly won't be my last.

Anyway, thanks for all the help everyone.


EDIT: Having just looked through your list of fixes, I think at some point I'm going to have to pick up DA:O on PC. Possibly only when I have a PC capable of running it though... I had not realised there were that many bugs in dialogue.

Modifié par JasonShepard, 22 janvier 2013 - 09:16 .


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I have a question about Leliana's romance. I've completed everything with her including her quest and she's currently in love. Alistair wants me to break up with her now. If I choose him by talking to him and then not initiate a conversation with her again before the end of the game does it still count as a break up for her? There is no sign of loss of affection for her when I do this.

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Megami Nekohime wrote...

I have a question about Leliana's romance. I've completed everything with her including her quest and she's currently in love. Alistair wants me to break up with her now. If I choose him by talking to him and then not initiate a conversation with her again before the end of the game does it still count as a break up for her? There is no sign of loss of affection for her when I do this.


It has been a while so I might be confusing conversations but I tried that with Morrigan once (IE Leliana asked me to end it so I tried not to talk to Morrigan at all) but after a while the game automatically triggers a conversation where the limboed LI asks you wats up.

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Andronic0s wrote...

Megami Nekohime wrote...

I have a question about Leliana's romance. I've completed everything with her including her quest and she's currently in love. Alistair wants me to break up with her now. If I choose him by talking to him and then not initiate a conversation with her again before the end of the game does it still count as a break up for her? There is no sign of loss of affection for her when I do this.


It has been a while so I might be confusing conversations but I tried that with Morrigan once (IE Leliana asked me to end it so I tried not to talk to Morrigan at all) but after a while the game automatically triggers a conversation where the limboed LI asks you wats up.

Dammit! <_< Alright, thanks. :)

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If you tell Alistair you want him in that conversation it breaks up your romance with Leliana. Period.

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Lenimph wrote...

If you tell Alistair you want him in that conversation it breaks up your romance with Leliana. Period.

Okay, thanks for your help. :lol:

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Oddly enough, the subject of romance, Alistair and Leliana is the focus of the latest Wanderers of Thedas video. Gilfalas does a great job stringing together bits of dialogue; it may give you a laugh.

Note: the plot makes more sense if you watched the third video.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 29 janvier 2013 - 11:39 .


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thats1evildude wrote...

Oddly enough, the subject of romance, Alistair and Leliana is the focus of the latest Wanderers of Thedas video. Gilfalas does a great job stringing together bits of dialogue; it may give you a laugh.

Note: the plot makes more sense if you watched the third video.

I watched them all and yes, they were very well done. Made me giggle out loud even. Thanks for the share! I'm going to subscribe for sure.

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thats1evildude wrote...

Oddly enough, the subject of romance, Alistair and Leliana is the focus of the latest Wanderers of Thedas video. Gilfalas does a great job stringing together bits of dialogue; it may give you a laugh.

Note: the plot makes more sense if you watched the third video.


I lol'd, thanks for introducing me to this little series. =]

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 31 janvier 2013 - 10:01 .


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Sorry to bring this thread up from the dead; I didn't think my question warranted its own topic. I'm trying to make Leliana from the Sacred Ashes trailer in the Skyrim character creation menu. I have terrible artistic vision so I'm trying to do it by taking measurements of her facial dimensions from screenshots and reproducing them in-game; however, all of the images that I've found have her looking at an angle. Are there any images in which she looks straight at the camera?