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[Zeleen]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Why does Morrigan look like a Dominatrix, Zeleen?

You talking about the pic with the armour???  It has good stats for a mage..  no more revealing than her original robes.

[adneate]

I leave for hours, geeking out with the other toolset nerds in another forum and I come back here and everyone is still on the topic of mods!



My list is:



Warden's Keep

The Stone Prisoner

Character Respec addon V1.6

The Winter Forge

Shadow Warden's Armor

Camp Storage Chest

Stamina Potion Recipe Mod

Better Two-Handed Talents

Devout Armor

GW Runic Armor

No Helmet Hack 1.5

Armor of the Sten

Leliana Item Set

Advanced Quickbar 1.2

Nukenin's Stealing Fix

Faster Bow Talents

Blood Harvest Robe

The Upgrade Wand for Awakening



Plus a bunch of my own mods, starting gear for the origins, I changed a bunch of the presets to my own designs and made a few armor sets for my characters.

[Swoo]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

So does anyone remember a moment that Leliana became your favorite? Or if she's not your favorite, a moment where you first really started to like her character?

Pretty much after she opened all those pesky locked crates for me.
Morrigan: I can blow stuff up, and be snarky!
Me: Can thou open a locked box?
Morrigan: Uh no.
Me:Meh


I just like her personality since it goes along well with me being a Warrior of Justice.

That's why I use the Lock Bash mod. Oh, a chest, no rogue? Whatever, Shale, come hit this box until it spills it's goodies for us like a righteous pinata!

[adneate]

Also on the topic of how I spec Leliana I always spec her as a Bard/Duelist and as a pure archer that is cunning based. Next to Mages Archers have the highest damage potential in the game and can be programmed totally with the tactics screen. DW Rogues are bugged, since if they use two daggers they do not get the damage bonus based on dexterity they are supposed to. In addition DW Rogues require a great deal of micro management early in the game, since in order to be really worthwhile they have to inflict backstabs. That's one of the reasons I don't really care all that much for Zevran, he's pretty much useless in combat I don't have the time to circle him around targets if I'm playing a primal battlemage firing spells in volleys and Rogues outside of Awakening just don't have the staying power that DW warriors have. If a DW rogue (whose primary defense skill is dexterity based so they avoid damage rather than absorb it) gets knocked down with the overwhelm ability he gets torn to shreds in about 2 or 3 seconds, much too fast for either my mage or Morrigan to cast any sort of spell to bail them out.

[Axekix]

adneate wrote...

Also on the topic of how I spec Leliana I always spec her as a Bard/Duelist and as a pure archer that is cunning based. Next to Mages Archers have the highest damage potential in the game and can be programmed totally with the tactics screen.

The only archer skill that puts up big numbers is Arrow of Slaying.  Other than that, archer dps is fairly lacking in DAO.  That said I prefer to spec her as a Bard/Assasin just to pick up Mark of Death.  It can be cast outside of melee range and increases your party's single target burst tremendously (+20% dmg from all members). 

I also prefer to stack her dex over cunning, since she get's passive cunning bonuses from approval and can supplement it with gear.  Cunning builds have such low accuracy, they need teams built around buffing their attack score (or lowering enemy defense) which doesn't always fit in with my team setup.

DW Rogues are bugged, since if they use two daggers they do not get the
damage bonus based on dexterity they are supposed to.

Hmm?  I haven't noticed this.  Is this documented somewhere?

[blademaster7]

Damage from dexterity is bugged on consoles. It works fine on PC.



And Rogues get a whooping +20 attack bonus when they are standing in a flanking position, so your low attack score isn't much of a deal. With that said, I still prefer DEX builds.

[Giggles_Manically]

Haste on a rouge is a must it seems, it turns your party into just a wall of pain, with Shale she hits so fast its mindnumbing.

[adneate]

blademaster7 wrote...

Damage from dexterity is bugged on consoles. It works fine on PC.

And Rogues get a whooping +20 attack bonus when they are standing in a flanking position, so your low attack score isn't much of a deal. With that said, I still prefer DEX builds.

Ah okay I thought it was broken across the board my mistake. As far as Archers go the key is largely to ignore their talents, since outside of scattershot they really aren't worth using. If you just focus on their ability to fire arrows as rapidly and as accuratly as possible they become incredibly useful, then you either build them as a Strength/Dexterity or Dexterity/Cunning based archer. If you don't use a mod that speeds up an archer's cast times, then fatigue and stamina are irrelevent since the archer is simply an auto-attack machine. Strength/Dexterity builds have an advantage because the Strength increases the attack score, but a dexterity/cunning based Bard/Duelist can be very formidable as well. Using Song of Courage and Dueling you can easily boost the Attack score over 100, since cunning contributes to the attack bonus from a Bard's song while strength does not. In my last playthrough Leliana had an attack score of 124 by level 20 dealing 55.2 damage with each hit and a critical chance of about 36%. The Accuracy abilty from Awakening is so overpowered that it allows an Archer to deal consistent damage in the triple digits with an attack score in excess of 200, hell if your a warrior archer and take spirit warrior you can deal damage in excess of 600 per hit at the maximum rate of fire, over 1000 for a critical and close to 3000 for a perfect arrow of slaying hit.

[Zeleen]

adneate wrote...

I leave for hours, geeking out with the other toolset nerds in another forum and I come back here and everyone is still on the topic of mods!

My list is:

Warden's Keep
The Stone Prisoner
Character Respec addon V1.6
The Winter Forge
Shadow Warden's Armor
Camp Storage Chest
Stamina Potion Recipe Mod
Better Two-Handed Talents
Devout Armor
GW Runic Armor
No Helmet Hack 1.5
Armor of the Sten
Leliana Item Set
Advanced Quickbar 1.2
Nukenin's Stealing Fix
Faster Bow Talents
Blood Harvest Robe
The Upgrade Wand for Awakening

Plus a bunch of my own mods, starting gear for the origins, I changed a bunch of the presets to my own designs and made a few armor sets for my characters.

I dunno is it because we pretty much stay on topic???
dont have my list yet..  working today and spent much of the morning dinking around..   BEFORE I came to work

[Zeleen]

blademaster7 wrote...

Damage from dexterity is bugged on consoles. It works fine on PC.

And Rogues get a whooping +20 attack bonus when they are standing in a flanking position, so your low attack score isn't much of a deal. With that said, I still prefer DEX builds.

Well, I am going to have to rethink...  I've played on the console for so long...  I guess now Leliana will be even more devastating in battle!

[blademaster7]

If you are patched up you won't encounter any issues with dexterity. They PS3/360 fix is also listed in the 1.04 patch they plan on releasing(in a hundred years or so). With the latest patches (1.02 and 1.03) the dex bug was fixed for PC users.

My next playthrhough would be a duo with a MHN Rogue and Leliana. Both specced as Dual Wielders. I've been thinking of doing that for a while.

Modifié par blademaster7, 12 juin 2010 - 09:19 .

[adneate]

blademaster7 wrote...

If you are patched up you won't encounter any issues with dexterity. They PS3/360 fix is also listed in the 1.04 patch they plan on releasing(in a hundred years or so). With the latest patches (1.02 and 1.03) the dex bug was fixed for PC users.

My next playthrhough would be a duo with a MHN Rogue and Leliana. Both specced as Dual Wielders. I've been thinking of doing that for a while.

That's kinda strange since I've been contemplating doing a dual archer run with my rogue Riona Cousland and Leliana, with two bards singing Song of Valor I'm sure I could get some crazy damage by the end of the game.

[blademaster7]

I think you meant song of courage. Song of Valor gives you stamina regeneration.



If I ever get in the mood to do another playthough I'll just go for it. Me and Leli with our daggers and our devout armor. No one else.

[Giggles_Manically]

Has anyone gotten Charsen's gate kiss mod, and she how it worked with Leliana?

My closest playthough is about 6 hours from that point.

[adneate]

blademaster7 wrote...

I think you meant song of courage. Song of Valor gives you stamina regeneration.

If I ever get in the mood to do another playthough I'll just go for it. Me and Leli with our daggers and our devout armor. No one else.

Yeah you are right, well I was close even though there are only two songs and I picked the wrong one. <_<

Modifié par adneate, 12 juin 2010 - 10:05 .

[blademaster7]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Has anyone gotten Charsen's gate kiss mod, and she how it worked with Leliana?
My closest playthough is about 6 hours from that point.

Yes I have tried it. Sometimes it works fine and sometimes the clipping is not so good. i don't know if my save is messed up though. Other people reported that it works just fine.

EDIT: Top of the page Leli. I think I rather like the mod for her

Modifié par blademaster7, 12 juin 2010 - 10:33 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Anyone check out the Gilmore NPC mod yet, it looks really amazing so far, and I really want to get. So far the only mod more ambitous is the complete Baulders Gate overhaul I saw.

[Zeleen]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Anyone check out the Gilmore NPC mod yet, it looks really amazing so far, and I really want to get. So far the only mod more ambitous is the complete Baulders Gate overhaul I saw.

VO is due to be released this month...  My Katt Cousland is waiting in the wings

[Giggles_Manically]

Zeleen wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Anyone check out the Gilmore NPC mod yet, it looks really amazing so far, and I really want to get. So far the only mod more ambitous is the complete Baulders Gate overhaul I saw.

VO is due to be released this month...  My Katt Cousland is waiting in the wings

Sweet, I wonder just how much he will have to say about everyone and everything in the game. It looks really impressive, the only real problem is that he will lack any real banter with others in the game. Or this could count as well:

[adneate]

I think the Ser Gilmore NPC mod is a bit strange since, he is killed or executed along with the entire compliment guard at Highever castle. In fact him and Mother Mallol are dead in Fort Drakon and you see both of them if you character is captured. On a related note is Ser Cauthrien actually a cyborg from the future because she has to be the most insane NPC in the game, the amount of damage that stupid woman can take and deal out is inhuman. Also she is stupid, as in not very intelligent just thought that needed to be added.

[Giggles_Manically]

What I dont get is how she can just ignore everything Loghain does:

"You dont know what its like to fight a war against people!we have to do bad things for good reasons!" "Be Silent churl your better is speaking" When as a Warden we dont answer to any social standing at all. Even my nicer playthoughs she always dies.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

What I dont get is how she can just ignore everything Loghain does:
"You dont know what its like to fight a war against people!we have to do bad things for good reasons!" "Be Silent churl your better is speaking" When as a Warden we dont answer to any social standing at all. Even my nicer playthoughs she always dies.

I think that if Leliana started denying people the right to seek redemption she might start to question her own right to do so.

[Nerdage]

Well if you always kill her then you probably missed the bit at the landsmeet, you need to pass a persuade check but she'll admit that Loghain has changed and stands down to let you enter to stop him. I do, however, take great satisfaction in killing her on the characters that do, that "your betters are speaking" comment deserves a smack at least.

[Giggles_Manically]

Until I got the dialouge fix check I kept failing the check, since I had no points in posion (WTF!) I got it now so I will be seeing this pretty soon. But seriously how do you muck up something so bad in the program.

[adneate]

A bit of a cross-contamination topic here but has anyone else noticed crazy looking eyes in some of the helms. I mean look at the eyes on one of Loghain's soldiers. One is pointing up the other is looking straight ahead.







Silly captions aside this is some really messed up stuff, did they really not notice this when creating the helm meshes? Are Loghain's troops part lizard?