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[Zeleen]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Zeleen wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Does the in game screenshot work well, or do most people use fraps?
I downloaded it last night and have been playing it with Serious Sam, which is amazing.

What is Serious Sam?

Serious Sam First Encounter HD - it is the most amazingly fun FPS ever, little plot, no talking, straight into the action. Dozens of unique enemies and weapons, all in stunning HD scenery. If you ever just want to relieve stress in a game this is so much fun.  Just mowing down hundreds of foes on screen at once is so hectic and amazing all with Heavy Metal in the background. And it is under 20 dollars at most places too, everyone should play it if they have a PC.

Oh...  I like Wet for that kind of game play.. I play it on my xbox.. I can lounge and play..  sometimes I wish PC had a controller like the xbox..

[Gilsa]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Does the in game screenshot work well, or do most people use fraps?
I downloaded it last night and have been playing it with Serious Sam, which is amazing.

For me in-game screenshots came out dark and the game jerked for a second when I hit the print screen button. I got fraps for Mass Effect and was in the habit of hitting a diffferent button by the time I went back to DAO. I then noticed what a remarkable difference there was between the shots. I was pleased enough with the program that I went ahead and bought the full version. Probably one of my best gaming investment -- can't believe I didn't download it sooner!

[KnightofPhoenix]

More Leli



BTW, how do you people RP her barding skills?
I mean do you actually RP it that she is singing in the middle of battle?

I personally RP it as her saying stuff like "The rightheous stand before the darkness, and the Maker shall guide their hand" like in the trailer in a melodic tone, to inspire the rest of the companions (or make Morrigan angry and thus more efficient).  

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 05 juin 2010 - 06:11 .

[Giggles_Manically]

I hate the sound that they use for Song of Valour:

Warden: CHARGE!

Leliana: AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA!



Warden: Porquis?

[tmp7704]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

BTW, how do you people RP her barding skills?
I mean do you actually RP it that she is singing in the middle of battle?

I tend to think of it as some sort of a song she's carrying interwoven between actions and guiding her with its rhythm. The act of at least entering the battle with a song is something that'd actually happen in that time period - http://en.wikipedia....iki/Bogurodzica and well, pretty much any combat sequence we get to see in movies nowadays *is* associated with a suitable music, often with vocals, so it's not that much of mental stretch to replace it with a 'real' song.

edit: something along these lines: 

Modifié par tmp7704, 05 juin 2010 - 06:53 .

[Axekix]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

BTW, how do you people RP her barding skills?
I mean do you actually RP it that she is singing in the middle of battle?

I personally RP it as her saying stuff like "The rightheous stand before the darkness, and the Maker shall guide their hand" like in the trailer in a melodic tone, to inspire the rest of the companions (or make Morrigan angry and thus more efficient).  

Actually, I take a bit of creative license with it.  Instead of taking her bard skills as literal war cries, I imagine her story telling/singing in camp, and as we travel, boosts the party's morale overall.  She's kind of like the group's source of entertainment during our down time.  The actual bard song buffs are just the manifestation of that imo.

[Giggles_Manically]

Watched the final of DA on youtube with the gate kiss mod, (still trying to find link). With Leliana it is so awsome "You are my Grey Warden, and our savior. Win this war for us my love and... come home", they kiss and just hold for a second. amazing

[Sarah1281]

I usually leave her how she is because of the dialogue options I start feeling bad crushing her faith and what not, but then again she really has different ideas than what the Chantry teaches.

Leliana's faith isn't crushed. All hardening her does is make her more willing to embrace her enjoyment of certain aspects of the bardic lifestyle she continues to utilize such as the thrill of the hunt. You're basically just telling her to stop pretending to be someone she's not and she is still a very devout (and not happy about defiling the ashes) woman.

[Axekix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I usually leave her how she is because of the dialogue options I start feeling bad crushing her faith and what not, but then again she really has different ideas than what the Chantry teaches.

Leliana's faith isn't crushed. All hardening her does is make her more willing to embrace her enjoyment of certain aspects of the bardic lifestyle she continues to utilize such as the thrill of the hunt. You're basically just telling her to stop pretending to be someone she's not and she is still a very devout (and not happy about defiling the ashes) woman.

I'm curious (since I've never hardened her) how does the convo go about the ashes if you defile them when she's hardened?

[Giggles_Manically]

If she is right there she attacks.

If she is at camp you can intimidate her into staying, but she never really talks to you again. IIRC.

[Axekix]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

If she is right there she attacks.
If she is at camp you can intimidate her into staying, but she never really talks to you again. IIRC.

Oh I thought you could talk her down or something.. but bleh you have to intimidate her into staying?  That sucks.

[Giggles_Manically]

Well yeah, you are practically taking a weewee on the piece of the true cross, the original Guttenberg bible, and the shroud of turin. Then drinking American Beer out of the holy grail, what do you think a normal person would do?

[Sarah1281]

Axekix wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

If she is right there she attacks.
If she is at camp you can intimidate her into staying, but she never really talks to you again. IIRC.

Oh I thought you could talk her down or something.. but bleh you have to intimidate her into staying?  That sucks.

You can talk her down if she is hardened and there but it does involve intimidating her. If she's at camp you can just lie to her like you can lie to Shale about Caridin.

[Axekix]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Well yeah, you are practically taking a weewee on the piece of the true cross, the original Guttenberg bible, and the shroud of turin. Then drinking American Beer out of the holy grail, what do you think a normal person would do?

Yeah I know, I just don't like the idea of intimidating her.

Sarah1281 wrote...
You can talk her down if she is hardened
and there but it does involve intimidating her. If she's at camp you can
just lie to her like you can lie to Shale about Caridin.

Ah.  Oh well.  Since unlocking Reaver I haven't had much reason to defile the ashes so it won't be a problem anyway.

[Gilsa]

I like that companions have their breaking points, that they have a line drawn somewhere and they WILL leave regardless of the relationship status. Otherwise it would just reduce them to being loyal dogs or something, y'know?

[Giggles_Manically]

Sten never has one of those points for an action, besides giving him the boot, and neither does Oghern or DOg. But yeah the Reason i like DA over Mass Effect is that outside of Wrex all your companions follow you unquestionly and blindly.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sten never has one of those points for an action, besides giving him the boot, and neither does Oghern or DOg. But yeah the Reason i like DA over Mass Effect is that outside of Wrex all your companions follow you unquestionly and blindly.

Well, Oghren - like most companions - will try to leave if you get him to -100 but other than that, no. Sten though...have you never taken him to Haven before he loved you? 

[Giggles_Manically]

Yes and my 2H human noble pounded him silly and got 10 approval!

[Axekix]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sten never has one of those points for an action, besides giving him the boot, and neither does Oghern or DOg. 

Sten kind of does if you count his attack at Haven.  I mean he'll actually kill you if you lose the duel.  And I think both him and Ohgren will leave if you get their approval low enough.

[Giggles_Manically]

Sten by himself is so easy, since no one is using Haste on him, He goes so slow and would get mauled by any PC i ever have made.

[Gilsa]

I looked around in the toolset with Oghren and it seems like somewhat of a mess, but there was dialogue for refusing Oghren's help in Deep Roads (Kardol was to comment to the warden that there was someone following the group Gollum-style and the camera would show it was Oghren in the distance). We would have been able to tell him to get lost after Deep Roads instead of being stuck with him so I'm not entirely sure if he would have had a breaking point as well -- haven't looked through everything in toolset. Even killing Oghren at -100 hostile was buggy (he seemed to go into a seizure, spouting out all the word balloons over his head before I finally had the dialogue option to kill him and that came up twice and then he just poofed). Does anything happen in the game that goes against Sten's values for him to want to leave? He only seemed to get angry when I was wasting time on non-Blight related stuff or playing double agent.

[Giggles_Manically]

Sten gets angry at you playing double agent where?

[Gilsa]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Sten gets angry at you playing double agent where?

When you agree to work for Harrowmont and then approach Vartag about working for Bhelen afterwards. Wynne and Shale will also object.

PC: "I need to talk to Bhelen."
Vartag: "Well, you have an unusual way of showing it. Why would the prince possibly meet with someone who came out publicly against him?" (VO: scornful)
PC: "And now Harrowmont trusts me. Unlike your other spies."
Sten: "There are not enough of you for all the alliances you make." (VO: disapproving)
PC: "I don't know enough about either to make a decision."
Sten:"Then choosing one is the same as choosing the other. What matters is having the courage to make the choice." (VO: sanctimonious)
Sten: "You will have to choose eventually." (VO: stern)
PC: "Isn't it obvious I've chosen to serve Bhelen?"
(passed persuade) Sten: "Obvious? Hmph." (VO: uncertain)
(failed persuade) Sten: "All that is obvious is that you're acting like a coward." (VO: sanctimonious)
PC: "Then I'm a coward. Now shut up."
(IF:Shale in party) Shale: "And it was picked to be a Grey Warden... why?" (VO: rolling her eyes, sarcastic)
Sten: "Have it your way." (VO: backing down)

Modifié par Gilsa, 05 juin 2010 - 10:16 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Where do you find all the dialouge in the toolset, right now I am reading up on mods, and using the toolset. Since everyone has pointed out things that really improve the vanilla game.