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Tali + Femshep Romance (Possible DLC)?


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Collider wrote...

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The future bisexual percentage thing was more of a joke. At the same time, I still disagree on your point that the character's sexualities will have "changed". For all intents and purposes, it will have simply opened the character's up to more players.

They would change their orientation because they didn't show interest in ME2 before, but they would be showing interest in ME2 with a patch. That is changing orientation.


It would be a minor change though. While not taking away from any options you had available to you in the game beforehand, it would grant greater story possibilites for the player.

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MassThumpinWrex wrote...

The future bisexual percentage thing was more of a joke. At the same time, I still disagree on your point that the character's sexualities will have "changed". For all intents and purposes, it will have simply opened the character's up to more players.




I will reiterate that making too many characters bisexual makes the team an unrealistic group which weakens the narrative as a whole. You speak of opening up the characters to more players, but what you're also doing is making it more obvious that it's a game where anything goes and making it increasingly more difficult to sustain willing suspension of disbelief.


Aside from that, it's a simple fact of life that the more things that have to be developed the less time can be spent on improving the depth of everything adding more alternate romance paths to the same characters means those characters are going to have shallower romances in ME3, especially considering the sheer number of dizzying possibilities there are for squadmates going into ME3 that has many of us worried alot of these squadmates aren't going to even be in the game at all. If Bioware has to develop alternate romance paths for the same character, now it is suddenly that much more work to put them in ME3.



Can you think of a single justification or precedent for adding this aside from "I want it, so Bioware should do it!"?

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False. I would miss out on the bromance dialog because instead of Garrus saying "you're ugly" to Shepard, he says something like "some men find scars attractive." As I already stated, these squad mates treat Shepard differently depending on gender.

Wittand, ...we are, and the thread is, talking about DLC that changes orientations in the same game. In ME2, characters like Jacob and Tali only show romantic affection only to the opposite sex and only have romances for the opposite sex. Making Garrus bisexual and have him flirting would be removing the option of platonic friendship in ME2, the same game.

Jacob does not, neither does Jack, have a bromance path those would be the two that I pick as s/s-romances. I have stated before that Garrus is a not an option for me because of the very first things he says onboard the ship and Tali because she is to much of little a little sister coming from ME1 to be any option for any of my Shepards.

And we ae still talking about an optional DLC, if you dont download it you will never know in ME2 and you just said that you cant object for the character to be open for s/s in ME3.

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I am willing to admit that having every character be bisexual would be overwrought and unrealistic, but I believe that since they have recorded those extra lines of dialogue, they should at least add in one same-sex paramour character for both male and female Shepards. I personally favor Tali'Zorah for the female same sex role, but I think Thane would be good for the male same sex role.

Modifié par MassThumpinWrex, 04 juin 2010 - 09:13 .


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The way I would do this is making a DLC that allows one s/s romance by gender, and release it alongside another bigger DLC to be cost effective.

And then release the free ( or priced like the appearance pack) DLC with a statement along the lines of : "We planned to have thoise romances in the game from the start but due to lack of time we had to cut them and finish them later. We know that some of our players came to like their crew and maybe dont wont them to change, so we decided to make them optional DLC rather than a mandatory patch."

If they include Tali and one of the males in the DLC it would be a garantied sales sucess and would generate quite some interest for the franchise that would work as promotion for the bigger and more expansive DLC.

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I honestly think that would be a excellent compromise. Nobody would have to be exposed to anything they didn't want to be exposed to, and Bioware could make use out of dialogue they've already paid for. I hope with all my heart that this comes to be.

Modifié par MassThumpinWrex, 04 juin 2010 - 09:33 .


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Wittand25 wrote...
We know that some of our players came to like their crew and maybe dont wont them to change, so we decided to make them optional DLC rather than a mandatory patch."

It may be optional now, but it will be mandatory in ME3 though.  Unless the content is not put into the retail ME3 game.  I don't think that they would exclude it in ME3, after including it in ME2.  They would have to exclude it from the ME3 retail game, then release another optional patch after ME3 is released for it to not be mandatory.

So the word "optional" is pracitically meaningless.

Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 04 juin 2010 - 09:38 .


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But if you never pursued any of those romances in ME2, then they won't even come up as topics of discussion in ME3. Even if you had the DLC, you could still totally avoid ever encountering it, because the romances need to be initiated by the player.

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That would be assuming that the player will not be able to establish a new romance with a present character from ME2, in ME3. We don't know what the limitations will be for the romantic scenarios in ME3.

Modifié par JohnnyDollar, 04 juin 2010 - 09:46 .


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Lets just turn the Normandy into a **** house.



After all we are here to f*ck each other's brains out, not go to war.

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Any romances that could be open for the player to establish could just as easily be ignored by the player in favor of a different option. So even if those were added to ME3, the player probably won't be forced to encounter them, especially if they didn't encounter them in ME2. Also, I'm pretty confident that Bioware has more subtly than to have a character blurt out "Hey Shepard! Guess what, I'm gay now! Wanna fall in love?"