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vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

khevan wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

khevan wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

khevan wrote...

I just want the Barret XM109.



THAT is an Anti Material Sniper Rifle.

Same thing as the M82A

Um, no it's not.  The M82A is chambered for the .50 calibre BMG round, while the XM109 is chambered for a 25 X 59 MM round.  SIGNIFIGANTLY larger round.

Edit:  Spelling.

Thats one nice weapon........but the M82A1 is classic.

Oh, no doubt, the M82A1 is a great weapon, and I'd much rather have that than nothing...but c'mon, a Barrett sniper rifle chambered for a 25mm round?  Makes my hands itch to get ahold of one with a couple of crates of ammo, and camp myself on a gun range for the next week or so.

Yea, thats a pretty hefty round..........not cheap to shoot though! A box of 50. cal last time I checked goes for around 6 bucks a round. 

Thats for the Barrett made stuff though. 

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

khevan wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

khevan wrote...

Oh, no doubt, the M82A1 is a great weapon, and I'd much rather have that than nothing...but c'mon, a Barrett sniper rifle chambered for a 25mm round?  Makes my hands itch to get ahold of one with a couple of crates of ammo, and camp myself on a gun range for the next week or so.

Can I come with you?

Sure.  You gotta bring your own doughnuts, though.  And coffee. 

I'll bring the gun, you bring the ammo lol 

[khevan]

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Yea, thats a pretty hefty round..........not cheap to shoot though! A box of 50. cal last time I checked goes for around 6 bucks a round. 

Actually, all my dreaming aside, the XM109 was never put into production because the recoil on the round is simply too great.  Which means that Shepard could use it with no problem. 

[Spornicus]

When I've got the Garrus/Thane setup, in almost any character class, I have Garrus take the Geth Pulse Rifle and give the Viper to Thane. I like the increased rounds, so it's not as costly if you miss like it would be with the mantis. And I always widow up on infiltrator.

[Kikaimegami]

Uugh that makes me wince in pain just thinking about it.

[Kikaimegami]

Spornicus wrote...

When I've got the Garrus/Thane setup, in almost any character class, I have Garrus take the Geth Pulse Rifle and give the Viper to Thane. I like the increased rounds, so it's not as costly if you miss like it would be with the mantis. And I always widow up on infiltrator.

Yeah, the pulse rifle is definitely nice to have.

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

khevan wrote...

vvDRUCILLAvv wrote...

Yea, thats a pretty hefty round..........not cheap to shoot though! A box of 50. cal last time I checked goes for around 6 bucks a round. 

Actually, all my dreaming aside, the XM109 was never put into production because the recoil on the round is simply too great.  Which means that Shepard could use it with no problem. 

True, true. Shepherd could probably fire a missile out of his *cough cough*  if he/she wanted to lol.

[Spornicus]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Spornicus wrote...

When I've got the Garrus/Thane setup, in almost any character class, I have Garrus take the Geth Pulse Rifle and give the Viper to Thane. I like the increased rounds, so it's not as costly if you miss like it would be with the mantis. And I always widow up on infiltrator.

Yeah, the pulse rifle is definitely nice to have.

The thing is, I prefer the Vindicator to the Pulse Rifle for Shepard (unless I have the revenant). I like the burst fire and longer range. I'm more of a range fighter, so I'm not too keen on vanguard or a close quarters soldier.

[Foolsfolly]

Spornicus wrote...

When I've got the Garrus/Thane setup, in almost any character class, I have Garrus take the Geth Pulse Rifle and give the Viper to Thane. I like the increased rounds, so it's not as costly if you miss like it would be with the mantis. And I always widow up on infiltrator.

I must say, I like the Geth Pulse Rifle/Garrus combo too. It goes well with his Armor Piercing Rounds. Each one fills in the other one's weakness.

I think I'm going to go pick a fight somewhere and give Zaeed one gun and Thane the other and see who gets the greater kill count.

[Pacifien]

Heh. Sweet real world semi-automatic anti-material rifles aside, I think technically the Viper is the better sniper rifle for Garrus, Thane, and Zaeed to have. (Widow all the way for Legion.) Since squadmates don't miss, the Viper has the higher DPS than the Mantis and has a knockback effect each time the enemy is hit by a bullet.

But even though it's technically a more powerful sniper rifle than the Mantis, I do occasionally give the Mantis to Garrus and Thane just because it acts the way I expect a sniper rifle to act. Zaeed, however, wouldn't care about being a badass sniper, he just wants his target dead.

[OniGanon]

I give Garrus and Zaeed the Mantis because it forces them into cover more often. Thane seems to have better self preservation instincts so I give him the Viper. Legion gets the Widow.

[Atmosfear3]

I prefer the Incisor rifle for all squadmates that can equip sniper rifles. Its generally better than all the others minus the widow for Legion.

[Pacifien]

Atmosfear3 wrote...
I prefer the Incisor rifle for all squadmates that can equip sniper rifles. Its generally better than all the others minus the widow for Legion.

Probably my only chance of getting the Incisor rifle is if Bioware releases another equipment pack for a price I'm unwilling to spend.

[Lucazius]

If you have the Incisor Rifle, give it to your companions. I don't know if it's due to some kind of bug, but it seems the Incisor at the hands of your squadmates doesn't suffer the 45% dmg reduce like other weapons.
It's a very crappy sniper for Shepard, but for the squadmates is awesome.

If you don't have the Incisor, go with the Mantis (Widow for Legion). The companions' AI increased acuracy make good use of it, and they will expose themselves less time to enemy fire while shooting.

Modifié par Lucazius, 06 juin 2010 - 03:34 .

[Barrow Roll]

How fast do squad mates actually fire the Viper when using it? How many shots on average do they take before then reenter cover?

[Canned Bullets]

Give them the Viper, they don't get one hit kills most of the time.

[Ecael]

I agree with the others who say the Incisor Rifle is ridiculously cheap on Insanity. Squadmates are far too accurate with it and do too much damage with it.

[Foolsfolly]

Barrow Roll wrote...

How fast do squad mates actually fire the Viper when using it? How many shots on average do they take before then reenter cover?

Not that fast. It's a semi-automatic weapon so I expected them to fire it as often as the Heavy Pistol. But they don't. They fire, stand around some, stand a little, maybe take cover, fire again, stand around somemore, maybe fire again.

They really don't take advantage of its semi-automatic nature and fire very slowly. So their DPS isn't all that good with the Viper.

I don't have the Incisor so I can't verify what that's like. But to my experience so far the best sniper for Companions to use is the Mantis. It does more damage, they fire it about as often as they do the Viper, and they enter cover more often to reload the Mantis.

To be honest, this isn't the result I thought I'd get. I was always wondering if I was making mistakes by giving them the Mantis over the Viper purely for DPS purposes.

So...the Viper's only decent for Soldiers using Adrenaline Rush? Man, that's a shame.

[Andaius20]

Some have commented that the Insisor might be bugged and uses Shepard's damage table on the companions. They can shoot like 9 rounds with almost prefect headshot hitting. and really take down enemy grunts fast. Like the Jack recruitment "fight your way out" after you refuse to get captured. I had Zaeed and Garrus with Incisors and they killed off all the waves by them selves without my help without getting killed.

[Foolsfolly]

Andaius20 wrote...

Some have commented that the Insisor might be bugged and uses Shepard's damage table on the companions. They can shoot like 9 rounds with almost prefect headshot hitting. and really take down enemy grunts fast. Like the Jack recruitment "fight your way out" after you refuse to get captured. I had Zaeed and Garrus with Incisors and they killed off all the waves by them selves without my help without getting killed.

Holy crap!

...so when's the Incisor coming out over the Cerberus Network?

[PseudoEthnic]

Andaius20 wrote...

Some have commented that the Insisor might be bugged and uses Shepard's damage table on the companions. They can shoot like 9 rounds with almost prefect headshot hitting. and really take down enemy grunts fast. Like the Jack recruitment "fight your way out" after you refuse to get captured. I had Zaeed and Garrus with Incisors and they killed off all the waves by them selves without my help without getting killed.

I think I saw a video about this using the same exact people. Was it you who posted it? Man, I want that Incisor rifle so bad!

[RGFrog]

Gave the widow to both Garrus and Thane via an edited c.ini.

They were absolute crap with it. Couldn't hit the side of a barn. Missed 4 out of every 5 shots.

So, back to the mantis as they don't seem to take advantage of the 12 rounds any more than a single shot from the mantis.