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[CroGamer002]

Ecael wrote...


Mass Effect 2
Garrus: I don't know, Shepard. What happened here was horrible, but we have to stop the Reapers. If we destroy this base, then all these people died for nothing.
Grunt: He's right. When your enemy gives you a weapon, you use it. You might not get another chance.
Jack: Seriously? Shepard, he's a user - just like Collectors.
Jacob: It's better because we'll do it? Shepard, this is way over the line.
Kasumi: Shep, he's talking about doing it all again. How will that help anything?
Legion: Shepard-Commander, this facility is data. It has no inherent ethical value. Destroying it will not return those lost. Keeping it may save others.
Miranda: I'm not so sure. Seeing it first hand - using anything from this base seems like a betrayal.
Mordin: Hmm... Agreed. Collector base horrific. Vile experiments, but should use what's here. Risks galaxy to ignore opportunity.
Samara: You have not really defeated the enemy if you adopt their methods.
Tali: Shepard, we fought to stop it. Us using it doesn't make it right.
Thane: Shepard/Siha, I've made a life of killing those who deserve to die. We must struggle to not become what we hate.
Zaeed: Someone gives you a weapon, you don't complain that it's dirty - you use it.[/color]

What are all Illusive Man replies?
He has diffrent replies for some comments.

[Ecael]

Mesina2 wrote...

Ecael wrote...


Mass Effect 2
Garrus: I don't know, Shepard. What happened here was horrible, but we have to stop the Reapers. If we destroy this base, then all these people died for nothing.
Grunt: He's right. When your enemy gives you a weapon, you use it. You might not get another chance.
Jack: Seriously? Shepard, he's a user - just like Collectors.
Jacob: It's better because we'll do it? Shepard, this is way over the line.
Kasumi: Shep, he's talking about doing it all again. How will that help anything?
Legion: Shepard-Commander, this facility is data. It has no inherent ethical value. Destroying it will not return those lost. Keeping it may save others.
Miranda: I'm not so sure. Seeing it first hand - using anything from this base seems like a betrayal.
Mordin: Hmm... Agreed. Collector base horrific. Vile experiments, but should use what's here. Risks galaxy to ignore opportunity.
Samara: You have not really defeated the enemy if you adopt their methods.
Tali: Shepard, we fought to stop it. Us using it doesn't make it right.
Thane: Shepard/Siha, I've made a life of killing those who deserve to die. We must struggle to not become what we hate.
Zaeed: Someone gives you a weapon, you don't complain that it's dirty - you use it.[/color]

What are all Illusive Man replies?
He has diffrent replies for some comments.

If it's in agreement:

Illusive Man: He's right, Shepard.

Illusive Man: Exactly my point.

If not:

Illusive Man: An alien can't understand the risk this represents for humanity.

Illusive Man: Your crew needs to understand that billions of lives are at stake.

For Miranda:

Illusive Man: Miranda, do not let Shepard destroy the base!

Illusive Man: I gave you an order, Miranda!

Illusive Man: Shepard, think about what's at stake! About everything Cerberus has done for you! You-

[CroGamer002]

Ecael wrote...

If it's in agreement:

Illusive Man: He's right, Shepard.

Illusive Man: Exactly my point.

If not:

Illusive Man: An alien can't understand the risk this represents for humanity.

Illusive Man: Your crew needs to understand that billions of lives are at stake.

For Miranda:

Illusive Man: Miranda, do not let Shepard destroy the base!

Illusive Man: I gave you an order, Miranda!

Illusive Man: Shepard, think about what's at stake! About everything Cerberus has done for you! You-

If Miranda is there she will say: I'm not so sure. Seeing at first hand, using anything from this base feels like betreyal.
Illusive Man: If we ignore this oportunity, that will be a betreyal.

I uploaded that on Youtube, already post link on your worst posible import for ME3 thread.

[Ecael]

Mesina2 wrote...

If Miranda is there she will say: I'm not so sure. Seeing at first hand, using anything from this base feels like betreyal.
Illusive Man: If we ignore this oportunity, that will be a betreyal.

I uploaded that on Youtube, already post link on your worst posible import for ME3 thread.

Oops. Missed that one.

Thanks for the update!

[Bookman230]

A great list, uber helpful, but you missed one. On Purogatury(sp. wrong) Zaeed has unique dialouge. When you first talk to Kurill,  investigate, when he talks about how bounty hunters are unreliable, Zaeed remarks "You're not recruiting the right ones". It always occured for me when I brought zaeed. Also, if Miranda is in your party, when you tell Jack she can look at the files, she remarks"Shepard! You don't have the authorization to do that!?. Even if Miranda's part is generic, Jack's response isn't, as she uses her nickname for Miranda, so that might be unique. Again, great list, just wanted to share.

EDIT:Also, I think Mordin has an unique line when you investigate Okeer's tank. He says he feels almost certain one krogan could not reverse genophage. Shepard then has the option of asking Mordin if he's afraid Grunt will undo his work on the Genophage, which Mordin will respond to.

Modifié par Bookman230, 17 juin 2010 - 06:41 .

[Ecael]

Bookman230 wrote...

A great list, uber helpful, but you missed one. On Purogatury(sp. wrong) Zaeed has unique dialouge. When you first talk to Kurill,  investigate, when he talks about how bounty hunters are unreliable, Zaeed remarks "You're not recruiting the right ones". It always occured for me when I brought zaeed. Also, if Miranda is in your party, when you tell Jack she can look at the files, she remarks"Shepard! You don't have the authorization to do that!?. Even if Miranda's part is generic, Jack's response isn't, as she uses her nickname for Miranda, so that might be unique. Again, great list, just wanted to share.

EDIT:Also, I think Mordin has an unique line when you investigate Okeer's tank. He says he feels almost certain one krogan could not reverse genophage. Shepard then has the option of asking Mordin if he's afraid Grunt will undo his work on the Genophage, which Mordin will respond to.

Good catch. I thought Zaeed had his extra line while talking with Kuril, but it turns out you do have to Investigate to get it. Thane also has a line if you modded the save file to include him. Also, I think Miranda has 2 extra lines during that scene. I've updated it accordingly.

Mordin has the same number of lines as all the other squadmates when talking about Grunt's tank (all 11 of them have 4 lines, actually)

Just goes to show that this guide is still a rough draft. Other things that this guide needs:
-Separate Normandy dialogues into topics and extra lines
-Further separate the unique lines out of the generic dialogues
-Categorize the unique lines for a squadmate on their recruitment or loyalty mission (in other words, while they're an NPC)
-Include the ME1 squadmates dialogue from ME2

Jack's Recruitment (prscva)

Unique* Dialogue
*Zaeed, *Thane - 1 (Warden Kuril - Investigate ~ "Warden Kuril")
*Miranda - 2 (Jack ~ So what?, Jack ~ Yes - Full access to Cerberus database)
Jack - 22
EDI - 3

Generic^ Dialogue, except Jack (0)
^This is Extortion - 1
^Have People Escaped - 1
^We're Here for Jack - 1
^Torturing Prisoners - 1, Zaeed (2)
^We Need to Get Jack Out of Cryo - 1
^Hacking that Control, ^That's Jack? - 2
^They're Going to Kill Her, ^We Have to Get Down There - 2
^Heavy Fighting Ahead, ^This Girl is Berserk - 1
^A Dead Guard, ^Dead Guard Did Things - 2 except Legion (1), Miranda (0), Jacob (0), Kasumi (0), Zaeed (0), Grunt (0)
^Knock Her Out, ^Don't Be Shepard's Enemy - 2

Modifié par Ecael, 19 juin 2010 - 01:53 .

[Ecael]

Didn't mention that I updated the Lia'Vael side mission.

*Tali - 8 (Lia'Vael side mission)
....4 - (Volus opinion ~ She just ran into you? ~ Let it go, Tali)
....1 - (C-Sec opinion)
....1 - (Quarian opinion ~ You look at ships a lot?)
....1 - (~That C-Sec guy was an ass)
....1 - (End mission)

[Ecael]

Updated the end-game choice dialogue (Keep/Destroy Collector Base)

Collector Homeworld (endgm2, endgm3)

Unique* Dialogue
*Grunt, *Miranda, *Jacob, *Thane - 1 (If they survive the 2nd Fire Team leader position)
*Miranda - 2 (Resigns from Cerberus at final boss)
*Morinth - 1 (If left to hold the line)
*Thane - (Adds "Siha" to many of his lines)
*^Keep or Destroy the Base - 1
....[Paragon choice, Renegade squadmate speaks] - Garrus, Grunt, Legion, Mordin, Zaeed
....[Renegade choice, Paragon squadmate speaks] - Jack, Jacob, Kasumi, Miranda, Samara, Tali, Thane

Modifié par Ecael, 25 juin 2010 - 08:12 .

[NYG1991]

Ecael wrote...

m14567 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

How you know that?

The lines are left in the sound files. Since the sound file's name gives an approximate location, subarea, character spoken, and even the basic time-line on which the character would say that line, it's easy to discern where they may have said it.

Why do they yell Bioware?
Oh and you forget Ashley, not like it matters everyone says same line.

Ashley doesn't have a line for "this is bigger than humanity" - it will always default to the other squadmate.

She doesn't want the Council to live at the cost of human lives.

No Ashley will say the "this is bigger than humanity" if you've paragoned her.

Really? I was hoping she'd at least be unique in always opposing that decision.

I thought it was Kaidan that could be paragon'd?

IIRC ashley will say the paragon line no matter what if you have wrex in your party. I believe wrex always takes the renegade "don't waste reinforcements line". or I could have it backwards

[Ecael]

NYG1991 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

m14567 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

How you know that?

The lines are left in the sound files. Since the sound file's name gives an approximate location, subarea, character spoken, and even the basic time-line on which the character would say that line, it's easy to discern where they may have said it.

Why do they yell Bioware?
Oh and you forget Ashley, not like it matters everyone says same line.

Ashley doesn't have a line for "this is bigger than humanity" - it will always default to the other squadmate.

She doesn't want the Council to live at the cost of human lives.

No Ashley will say the "this is bigger than humanity" if you've paragoned her.

Really? I was hoping she'd at least be unique in always opposing that decision.

I thought it was Kaidan that could be paragon'd?

IIRC ashley will say the paragon line no matter what if you have wrex in your party. I believe wrex always takes the renegade "don't waste reinforcements line". or I could have it backwards

Wrex does have a paragon line to save the Council. I think you mixed it up with the Rachni Queen dialogue, where Wrex will always take the Renegade side.

[Pacifien]

Someone was asking about the amount of dialogue each squadmate will have before and after the loyalty missions, so I said I would keep track on my next playthrough. So this is what I have so far.

# of Unique Conversations w/ Squadmates Before Loyalty Mission
Garrus - 1
Grunt - 2
Jack - 2
Jacob - 3 (if Shepard is female)
Miranda - 2
Mordin - 2

Playing as a female Shepard, so I know that certain dialogues with Jack, Miranda, and Tali will be cut off to me. The following is a list of when new dialogue will come up for your squadmates as you progress through the game. Also listed each time you'll hear a member of the crew mention something as well. And I know you can get the whole story of Jessie in one go, but I tried to spread it out.

Introduction to the Normandy
- Jacob
- Miranda
- Joker
- Kelly
- Gardner
- Chakwas
- Ken and Gabby
- Crew in the Crew Quarters
- Crew in the Mess Hall

First Mission (Garrus recruited / Obtained Chakwas's brandy)
- Garrus
     - This is the only dialogue you will have with Garrus until he gives you his loyalty mission
- Zaeed
     - Mentions Archangel
     - 1st story about Jessie (You can get the whole story at one time if you keep clicking on the gun.)
- Joker
     - Mentions Garrus
     - 1st answer to how the ship is doing
- Kelly 
     - Comments on Garrus
- Chakwas
- Ken and Gabby
- Crew in Crew Quarters

Second
Mission (Mordin recruited / Obtained FBA couplings)
- Mordin
- Jacob
- Miranda
     - Last unique conversation until she gives you her loyalty mission
- Zaeed
     - 2nd story about Jessie
- Joker
     - Does not comment about Mordin
     - 2nd answer to how the ship is doing
- Chakwas
     - Thanks you for the brandy
     - This is the last new dialogue from Chakwas for awhile
- Ken and Gabby
     - Skyllian Poker
- Crew in CIC
- Crew in Crew Quarters
- Crew in Mess Hall

Third Mission (N7 mission in the Fathar system)
- Mordin
     - Last conversation you will have with Mordin until he gives you his loyalty mission
     - Mordin from here on will give you a different "go away" answer each time you try to talk to him
- Jacob
     - This is female Shepard's not-so-subtle attempt at seeing if Jacob's available, so I can see a male Shepard not having this conversation
     - Last unique dialogue with Jacob until he gives you his loyalty mission
- Zaeed
     - 3rd story about Jessie
- Joker
     - 3rd answer to how the ship is doing
- Kelly
     - Mentions Mordin

Visit to Citadel (does not count as mission / Obtained food provisions)
- Mordin
     - Gives one of his random "go away" comments
- Joker
     - Gives his "fractured thumb on mute" comment
- Kasumi
- Gardner
     - Thanks you for the new provisions

Fourth Mission (Zorya)
- Joker
     - 4th answer to how the ship is doing
- Kasumi
     - Mentions the mission on Zorya
- Zaeed
     - Mentions the mission on Zorya
     - 4th story about Jessie
- Kelly
     - Mentions Kasumi
- Crew in CIC
- Crew in Mess Hall

Fifth Mission (1st Firewalker mission)
- Kasumi
- Zaeed
     - 5th and last story about Jessie
- Joker
     - 5th answer to how the ship is doing
- Kelly
     - Mentions Zaeed
- Crew in Mess Hall

Sixth Mission (Korlus)
- Grunt
- Kasumi
- Zaeed
- Joker
     - 6th and last answer to how the ship is doing for awhile
- Kelly
     - Comment before awakening Grunt
     - Comment after awakening Grunt
- Ken and Gabby
     - Comment after awakening Grunt
- Crew in Mess Hall

Seventh Mission (2nd Firewalker mission)
- Grunt
- Kasumi
- Zaeed
     - Zaeed will begin to repeat his stories after this
- Crew in Crew Quarters
- Crew in Mess Hall

Eighth Mission (3rd Firewalker mission)
- Grunt
     - Last unique dialogue with Grunt until he gives you his loyalty mission
- Kasumi
     - Will start to repeat her stories after this
- Crew in CIC
- Crew in Crew Quarters

Ninth Mission (4th Firewalker mission)
- Kasumi
     - While Kasumi repeats her stories, she will say something new about Gardner's cooking after you get him his new provisions

10th Mission (Purgatory)
- Jack
- Zaeed   
     - Comments on Jack
- Joker
     - Comments on Jack
- Kelly 
     - Comments on Jack
- Ken and Gabby
     - Comments on Jack

11th Mission (After Horizon)
- Jacob
     - Gives you loyalty mission
- Jack
     - Last unique dialogue until she gives you her loyalty mission
- Miranda
     - Gives you loyalty mission
- Zaeed
     - Comments on Horizon
- Joker
     - Comments on Ashley/Kaidan on Horizon
- Kelly   
     - Comments on Ashley/Kaidan on Horizon
- Crew in Mess Hall

Modifié par Pacifien, 26 juin 2010 - 11:35 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Guys, I have heard that Thane has a special line which is spoken if 1) a female Shepard romances him and 2) he is killed during the suicide mission (not sure in what position, but maybe as fire team leader or something). It's something like: "I see the oceans. You are so beautiful, Siha...", then he dies.



I could probably try this out myself, but can someone confirm it first?

[Pacifien]

I've done a playthrough with Thane and he does have unique dialogue for a romanced Shepard. Not just if he dies as a fire team leader, but also when you talk to the Illusive Man. Normally he'd say "Shepard, I've made a life of killing..." but instead he'll call her Siha. Also, I believe Jack also has unique dialogue if you've romanced her and she dies at the door. Something like "I knew I was too happy. Too happy with you." From what I've read in the Garrus support thread, I don't think he has unique dialogue when romanced, though.

Modifié par Pacifien, 28 juin 2010 - 04:16 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Yeah, I know about "Siha, I've made a life of killing those who deserve...". I just got it the other day. But I wasn't entirely sure about the line if he's killed. Do you know in what position he says that? I'm guessing if he dies as a fire team leader?

In any case, I can't bring myself to kill him during the suicide mission, although that unique dialogue of his is just "too much".  Assuming he does say it, that is. Hopefully someone can confirm it.

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 28 juin 2010 - 04:20 .

[Ecael]

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Guys, I have heard that Thane has a special line which is spoken if 1) a female Shepard romances him and 2) he is killed during the suicide mission (not sure in what position, but maybe as fire team leader or something). It's something like: "I see the oceans. You are so beautiful, Siha...", then he dies.

I could probably try this out myself, but can someone confirm it first?

Thane: I hear it, a sea...
Thane: You look beautiful, my siha...

Jack: Too many of them... I knew I'd get hit on this job. I was too happy... too happy with you.

Jacob: Too many, Shepard. Shields blew. Guess you and I won't get our time... Heavy risk, but the priiize...

Garrus and Tali don't have a romance-driven line at this part, and Miranda can't die.

[Pacifien]

Ecael wrote...
Jacob: Too many, Shepard. Shields blew. Guess you and I won't get our time... Heavy risk, but the priiize...

This one I think you actually can't get because you can't romance Jacob unless you've done his loyalty mission, and if you've done his loyalty mission, he won't die at the door.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Ecael wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Guys, I have heard that Thane has a special line which is spoken if 1) a female Shepard romances him and 2) he is killed during the suicide mission (not sure in what position, but maybe as fire team leader or something). It's something like: "I see the oceans. You are so beautiful, Siha...", then he dies.

I could probably try this out myself, but can someone confirm it first?

Thane: I hear it, a sea...
Thane: You look beautiful, my siha...

Jack: Too many of them... I knew I'd get hit on this job. I was too happy... too happy with you.

Jacob: Too many, Shepard. Shields blew. Guess you and I won't get our time... Heavy risk, but the priiize...

Garrus and Tali don't have a romance-driven line at this part, and Miranda can't die.

LOL! Jacob can't catch a  freakin' break on these forums.

Okay, as for Thane's lines, I see you wrote two of them. Are they said at the same point? Or does it depend on what role he takes?

[Ecael]

Pacifien wrote...

Ecael wrote...
Jacob: Too many, Shepard. Shields blew. Guess you and I won't get our time... Heavy risk, but the priiize...

This one I think you actually can't get because you can't romance Jacob unless you've done his loyalty mission, and if you've done his loyalty mission, he won't die at the door.

Huh. I never thought of that. That may be the most elusive/illusive line in the game then, coming from Jacob no less.

Maybe there was supposed to be a late Jacob/Thane confrontation of some sort?

EDIT: Or better yet, maybe if you didn't have a tech specialist with you during the biotic barrier, they wouldn't be able to open the door in time?

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Okay, as for Thane's lines, I see you wrote two of them. Are they said at the same point? Or does it depend on what role he takes?

I think they're both said as the Second Fire Team Leader.

He also has a line where he survives and he says he's fine, which only happens if you have just him on the Second Fire Team.

Modifié par Ecael, 28 juin 2010 - 05:01 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Coo! Thanks, Ecael!



I love it when BioWare goes a little deeper when it comes to these things. You could play the game over 10 times through and still miss dialog like this. Who would of thought Thane has such a beautiful romanced-driven line if he's shot at the end?

[Pacifien]

Ecael wrote...
Maybe there was supposed to be a late Jacob/Thane confrontation of some sort?

Man, I wonder how that would have worked.

Jacob: You abandoned your son! And he almost became an assassin like you! I hate you! You're just like my dad! I wish you were dead!
Thane: I'm sorry.

Shepard: Thane, he's right. I'm going to have to side with him so you can die later like you deserve.
Shepard: Jacob, yelling at Thane is not going to get you the priiize.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Pacifien wrote...

Ecael wrote...
Maybe there was supposed to be a late Jacob/Thane confrontation of some sort?

Man, I wonder how that would have worked.

Jacob: You abandoned your son! And he almost became an assassin like you! I hate you! You're just like my dad! I wish you were dead!
Thane: I'm sorry.

Shepard: Thane, he's right. I'm going to have to side with him so you can die later like you deserve.
Shepard: Jacob, yelling at Thane is not going to get you the priiize.

But that confrontation would be a heavy risk, wouldn't it?

[Pacifien]

Ecael wrote...
I'm going to assume someone is going to make a comment about the amount of generic dialogue in Mass Effect, so I'll post this pre-emptively as an example:

Mass Effect 1
Liara: Quick! Open the station's arms! Maybe the fleet can take Sovereign down before he regains control of the station!
Tali: Quick! Open the station's arms! Maybe the fleet can take Sovereign down before he regains control of the station!
Garrus: Quick! Open the station's arms! Maybe the fleet can take Sovereign down!
Kaidan: QUICK! OPEN THE STATION'S ARMS! MAYBE THE FLEET CAN TAKE SOVEREIGN DOWN BEFORE HE REGAINS CONTROL OF THE STATION!
Ashley: QUICK! OPEN THE STATION'S ARMS! MAYBE THE FLEET CAN TAKE SOVEREIGN DOWN BEFORE HE REGAINS CONTROL OF THE STATION!
Wrex: Quick! Open the station's arms! Maybe the fleet can take Sovereign down before he regains control of the station!

Liara: This is bigger than humanity! Sovereign's a threat to every organic species in the galaxy!
Tali: This is bigger than humanity! Sovereign's a threat to every organic species in the galaxy!
Garrus: This is bigger than humanity! Sovereign's a threat to every organic species in the galaxy!
Kaidan: THIS IS BIGGER THAN HUMANITY! SOVEREIGN'S A THREAT TO EVERY ORGANIC SPECIES IN THE GALAXY!
Wrex: This is bigger than humanity! Sovereign's a threat to every organic species in the galaxy!

Liara: The Council must be sacrificed for the greater good. Do not waste your reinforcements.
Tali: True. That's why you can't waste reinforcements trying to save the Council.
Kaidan: YOU CAN'T SACRIFICE HUMAN LIVES TO SAVE THE COUNCIL! WHAT HAVE THEY EVER DONE FOR US?
Ashley: YOU CAN'T SACRIFICE HUMAN LIVES TO SAVE THE COUNCIL! WHAT HAVE THEY EVER DONE FOR US?
Wrex: You'd sacrifice human lives to save the Council? What have they ever done for your kind?

Hey, what's the order that determines who is going to support saving the council and who doesn't?

[Ecael]

Pacifien wrote...

Ecael wrote...
I'm going to assume someone is going to make a comment about the amount of generic dialogue in Mass Effect, so I'll post this pre-emptively as an example:

Mass Effect 1
Liara: Quick! Open the station's arms! Maybe the fleet can take Sovereign down before he regains control of the station!
Tali: Quick! Open the station's arms! Maybe the fleet can take Sovereign down before he regains control of the station!
Garrus: Quick! Open the station's arms! Maybe the fleet can take Sovereign down!
Kaidan: QUICK! OPEN THE STATION'S ARMS! MAYBE THE FLEET CAN TAKE SOVEREIGN DOWN BEFORE HE REGAINS CONTROL OF THE STATION!
Ashley: QUICK! OPEN THE STATION'S ARMS! MAYBE THE FLEET CAN TAKE SOVEREIGN DOWN BEFORE HE REGAINS CONTROL OF THE STATION!
Wrex: Quick! Open the station's arms! Maybe the fleet can take Sovereign down before he regains control of the station!

Liara: This is bigger than humanity! Sovereign's a threat to every organic species in the galaxy!
Tali: This is bigger than humanity! Sovereign's a threat to every organic species in the galaxy!
Garrus: This is bigger than humanity! Sovereign's a threat to every organic species in the galaxy!
Kaidan: THIS IS BIGGER THAN HUMANITY! SOVEREIGN'S A THREAT TO EVERY ORGANIC SPECIES IN THE GALAXY!
Wrex: This is bigger than humanity! Sovereign's a threat to every organic species in the galaxy!

Liara: The Council must be sacrificed for the greater good. Do not waste your reinforcements.
Tali: True. That's why you can't waste reinforcements trying to save the Council.
Kaidan: YOU CAN'T SACRIFICE HUMAN LIVES TO SAVE THE COUNCIL! WHAT HAVE THEY EVER DONE FOR US?
Ashley: YOU CAN'T SACRIFICE HUMAN LIVES TO SAVE THE COUNCIL! WHAT HAVE THEY EVER DONE FOR US?
Wrex: You'd sacrifice human lives to save the Council? What have they ever done for your kind?

Hey, what's the order that determines who is going to support saving the council and who doesn't?

If I could make a guess... abandoning the Council would probably be something like:

1. Ashley
2. Kaidan
3. Wrex
4. Tali
5. Garrus
6. Liara

...unless it's random (with the exception of Ashley)

[Pacifien]

Ecael wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Hey, what's the order that determines who is going to support saving the council and who doesn't?

If I could make a guess... abandoning the Council would probably be something like:

1. Ashley
2. Kaidan
3. Wrex
4. Tali
5. Garrus
6. Liara

...unless it's random (with the exception of Ashley)

Hmm. I know Kaidan advocates saving the Council even with Liara there. I know Ashley often advocates abandoning the Council, as does Wrex.

Nilfalasiel in the Garrus support thread I believe said it's Kaidan - Liara - Tali - Garrus - Ashley - Wrex, but I had wondered how a Renegade Kaidan or Paragon Ashley change places in the order, because apparently they do.