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Suprez30...Oh Noes!!! The big "P" word!

Asdara...It's a PC mod called More Hairstyles. Used with Pinapple's Vibrant colors makes for some really cool character creations.

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Hard to take this thread seriously when the opening line is wrong. There are dragons in our world or have not heard of a komodo dragon? Yeah I know it isn't what you meant.

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There are also sea monsters i.e. Giant Squid. There are ghosts. Just watch Ghost Hunters. There are also elementals (fairies, or otherworldly spirits). If you don't believe me, go spend the night on a faerie mound in Great Britain or chat with your local Native American Medicine Man/Shaman.

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Patriciachr34 wrote...

Suprez30...Oh Noes!!! The big "P" word!
Asdara...It's a PC mod called More Hairstyles. Used with Pinapple's Vibrant colors makes for some really cool character creations.


Ah so it is a PC thing... 

I am so tempted to go re-buy the game to play with it on a PC now... but I'd have to do it in parallels and that thing hates me... still it would be worth it for the hair maybe... :whistle:

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Asdara wrote...

Speaking of real - I am really starting to get jealous of all the amazingly cute hair styles and spiffyness in people's avatars - do you people actually get to make your characters look like that? Is it a PC only thing? I wanna be one of the cool kids /pout!

Oh, and yes, what's been said. Literature, plays, movies, other works of art all provoke discussion and debate. Why the OP thinks a video game with story and characters would be any different is beyond me.


I think you can mod yer 360 crap, but it involves transferring over to the pc to edit. I'm not sure.

All the cute hair, eyes, etc.. http://dragonagenexus.com

Whole crap load of different mods.

Btw, PC > * consoles.

and my japanese style big eared glowing eyed elf rules.

Modifié par neppakyo, 08 juin 2010 - 01:20 .


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Patriciachr34 wrote...

Gemaphrodite wrote...

Go for walk to get out of the house, see friends, take up knitting... do something to calm yourself! Those who discuss these 'issues' and say that one of the characters didn't seem 'realistic' or whatever are missing some vital points: Darkspawn, Dragons, Mages and Elves do not exist. The whole game is fantasy and therefore it's unrealistic by default.

Some folks are having such heated discussions about various subjects. If there is anything to be (mildly) annoyed about it is how both Awakenings and the Darkspawn Chronicles have been a massive let down. Churned out in split-second time with no real thought to make a quick buck. MY buck. £20 for not much at all.


I feel very sad for you.  You actually believe that people who intelligently discuss works of fiction believe that the fiction is real.

By your logic, people who passionately discuss the psychology of Hamlet (a true whiney, indecisive prince) or the madness of King Lear should "get a life".  Gosh! I had to pay to discuss this when I attended university.  On the forums, I get to indulge my intellect for free!

Personally, I believe Bioware desreves a round fo applause for providing this rich content to us nerdrage gamers.  Yes. Origins and Awakenings are not perfect.  However, the content they provided in these games so inspires that fans roar in disapproval when they believe Bioware could have done a better job.  What higher praise could there be?

Finally, sorry you didn't like Awakenings.  I am having a great time with it!


this....sadly.

the only one that needs to "go outside and take a walk" or "take up knitting" is apparently you.

this is a forum to discuss the game, in this very way.  It's why the forums are here....it's the place to debate the game..etc......I'm sure there are some out there that really do take things too seriously (couple of these..losers..have PM'd me in response to comments made in discussion....as if they think I'm going to take anything on here personal or that anything done or said on these forums is actually going to be on my mind outside of when I'm logged in here....I don't even remember half the convo's/debates I've had..cause that crap doesn't leave here.)

but I start to digress...bottom line....if you're so bothered by this stuff that you had to make this thread......perhaps the one that needs to get away is yourself?  I'm willing to bet 99% of the people on here that get into "heated" debates/whatever over something about DA:O don't even remember the discussion 5 mins after loggin out.

chill out.  it's forums.  a place to debate.  not serve tea and have cuddle parties.

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no cuddle parties?...awww man!

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neppakyo wrote...

Asdara wrote...

Speaking of real - I am really starting to get jealous of all the amazingly cute hair styles and spiffyness in people's avatars - do you people actually get to make your characters look like that? Is it a PC only thing? I wanna be one of the cool kids /pout!

Oh, and yes, what's been said. Literature, plays, movies, other works of art all provoke discussion and debate. Why the OP thinks a video game with story and characters would be any different is beyond me.


She does, indeed, rule.  

I'm a little old-school Nintendo hold over from back in the day I suppose.  Never had a computer (till now in adulthood) that was capable of handling big sexy games like this.  Something to try out maybe ^_^

I think you can mod yer 360 crap, but it involves transferring over to the pc to edit. I'm not sure.

All the cute hair, eyes, etc.. http://dragonagenexus.com

Whole crap load of different mods.

Btw, PC > * consoles.

and my japanese style big eared glowing eyed elf rules.


Rules = yes she does.  

I typed up a thing and then it went poof on me.  I'll have to think about the PC thing.  I've never had a computer before now into adulthood that could handle a sexy beast game like this one ^_^

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Gemaphrodite wrote...

Go for walk to get out of the house, see friends, take up knitting... do something to calm yourself! Those who discuss these 'issues' and say that one of the characters didn't seem 'realistic' or whatever are missing some vital points: Darkspawn, Dragons, Mages and Elves do not exist. The whole game is fantasy and therefore it's unrealistic by default.

Some folks are having such heated discussions about various subjects. If there is anything to be (mildly) annoyed about it is how both Awakenings and the Darkspawn Chronicles have been a massive let down. Churned out in split-second time with no real thought to make a quick buck. MY buck. £20 for not much at all.

  • Awakenings was too easy, for a start. Bringing us in a high level of skill, when they hadn't even up the skill of the Darkspawn, was silly. Even with the big bosses you could get through it with only a couple of attempts. If you even needed that many.
  • Introducing us to new characters that we couldn't even get to know properly was a total waste. I'd have rather continued over with the old characters and saved the new ones for DA:2. I spent the whole time feeling somewhat lonely, as if I was missing a vital ingredient, which of course was the ability to communicate with those in your party. Some have said they didn't like all the talking, but I would have liked the choice to talk, even if I decided I couldn't be arsed.
  • And as for the ending... well, the less said about it the better I think. Terrible pretty much sums it up.
I completed Chronicles in about two hours and it was nothing more than a slash-and-dash.
I hope DA:2 will be back to the style and quality of the first. A game that I thoroughly enjoyed for its depth and originality... (and Alistair). I'd love to know what other people think. If they agree, or if I'm the only one who feels this way.

[*]Look buy ME2 post bad comments about tali or make a thread saying something negative.
[*]You WILL see what people are like when they take a game too seriously
[*]Dragon age has less people taking it seriously compared to ME
[*]ME= Mass effect ME2 = Mass effect 2
[*]They have threads about tali increaseing a 100 pages a day

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Heh, yeah.. some of those ME2 threads are over 1,000 pages

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and the tali threads have been going on for months


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Gemaphrodite wrote...

Go for walk to get out of the house, see friends, take up knitting... do something to calm yourself! Those who discuss these 'issues' and say that one of the characters didn't seem 'realistic' or whatever are missing some vital points: Darkspawn, Dragons, Mages and Elves do not exist. The whole game is fantasy and therefore it's unrealistic by default.


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Gemaphrodite wrote...
Go for walk to get out of the house, see friends, take up knitting... do something to calm yourself! Those who discuss these 'issues' and say that one of the characters didn't seem 'realistic' or whatever are missing some vital points: Darkspawn, Dragons, Mages and Elves do not exist. The whole game is fantasy and therefore it's unrealistic by default.

Some folks are having such heated discussions about various subjects. If there is anything to be (mildly) annoyed about it is how both Awakenings and the Darkspawn Chronicles have been a massive let down. Churned out in split-second time with no real thought to make a quick buck. MY buck. £20 for not much at all.

  • Awakenings was too easy, for a start. Bringing us in a high level of skill, when they hadn't even up the skill of the Darkspawn, was silly. Even with the big bosses you could get through it with only a couple of attempts. If you even needed that many.
  • Introducing us to new characters that we couldn't even get to know properly was a total waste. I'd have rather continued over with the old characters and saved the new ones for DA:2. I spent the whole time feeling somewhat lonely, as if I was missing a vital ingredient, which of course was the ability to communicate with those in your party. Some have said they didn't like all the talking, but I would have liked the choice to talk, even if I decided I couldn't be arsed.

    And as for the ending... well, the less said about it the better I think. Terrible pretty much sums it up.
I completed Chronicles in about two hours and it was nothing more than a slash-and-dash.
I hope DA:2 will be back to the style and quality of the first. A game that I thoroughly enjoyed for its depth and originality... (and Alistair). I'd love to know what other people think. If they agree, or if I'm the only one who feels this way.

Is it just me or something else? If you go to E3 next week you will truly see that people will start a riot and kill you for just saying this! Hardcore to casual gamers all share there support for each game and Dragon Age is not an exception. As far as we know there is already a sequel coming! And it may have the same impact like ME2 to have 2000+ forum pages!

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Okay, first of all my opening comment is not supposed to cause offence. I'm just trying to be light-hearted.



I agree with you for the most part. Discussing something you did or did not enjoy is an important thing to do and I'm not actually critisizing anyone for doing so. What I actually said was that people are getting angry and vexed - to the point of actual verbal abuse with other players - over these things and that's what prompted my post. To think I am saying you're stupid or unintelligent is unfounded - I would be calling myself that in the process! I got totally absorbed and addicted to the first game. I'm not saying anyone should do this or do that, particularly 'how they should spend time on the internet' Have you seen how much time I spend on here?!



I also said that if there was anything to be (mildly) annoyed about it was Awakenings. I didn't say I hated it. I didn't say aything about the positives, because I was commenting on the negatives. I was mainly wondering if anyone felt the same as me about the DLC.




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I'm not saying people shouldn't debate at all. I just think people shouldn't let it get them so worked up that they are abusive to others.

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Gemaphrodite wrote...

Go for walk to get out of the house, see friends, take up knitting... do something to calm yourself! Those who discuss these 'issues' and say that one of the characters didn't seem 'realistic' or whatever are missing some vital points: Darkspawn, Dragons, Mages and Elves do not exist. The whole game is fantasy and therefore it's unrealistic by default.





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[*]We're fine.  Really.  In fact I would say it's outside education and life experience that leads to some of the great discussions here.  This board is a STARK contrast to World of Warcrack.  you want to see some game addicted folks who need this advice - go there.  They also know elves and dragons aren't real, but getting the uber teir 10 armor set is more important than holding a job to those people.  We have some debates here - over there they flat out go ape ****.  Try downloading some Ventrilo clips of people fighting over Warcraft.  But this board seems to me to just be full of people who really enjoyed the game.



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[*]I don't even consider Awakening.  It's like the movie Rocky.  By itself it is an Academy Award winning film.  I like to pretend Rocky 2 - 5 never happened.  Or Star Wars.  There were 3 Star Was movies to my mind - A New Hope, Empire, and Return.  The other 3 don't exist in my realm of fantasy entertainment.
As a result of Awakening, Patch 1.03, and BioWare / EA's total lack of giving a crap, I won't be buying DA 2 until it's been thoroughly played, reviewed, and everyone says it's bug free and not a thrown together piece of crap.  Blizzard may release games a year late, but they get it right.


I haven't seen the WoW boards. Infact, this is my first experience of gaming forums, but some people were getting so mad at each other - when talking about whether the opening battle was accurate to warfare in the medieval period and such - and I was a bit miffed. I think DA:O was probably the best RPG fantasy game I had played, regardless of whether the opening scene was accurate or not. I guess I don't even look at those things. I do, believe it or not, try not to pick anything apart too much, but that's not to say I don't like talking about it.

I agree with you about Star Wars. Though Rocky 2 was okay. So was 4 - if only for the Russian and the montages!

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neppakyo wrote...

Heh, yeah.. some of those ME2 threads are over 1,000 pages

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So pretty!!  :wub:

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I don't take the game too seriously but I will  happily admit I take it seriously when I need a break from reality for a few hours when I am playing it. Or if there is something about the game that my character feels rather strongly about then I like to post my $5.00 worth on the boards. I do my strategy in the game as I am actually there because technically you are when you play your character. Then when done playing, I am right back into real life doing real life things which does include walking the dog, gardening, bellydance classes, henna gigs, my husband and everything else my life consists of. So I am one of those who are seriously addicted but can distinguish between a game and reality.  (But I do agree I think there are some that take too seriously outside the gaming world)
DAO is the best RPG I have played second only to Fable. I have tried other but I really get into the fantasy/medieval style games. Now that I have discovered the PC version with my new laptop and the mods I can add to the game I am just tinkled pink!
Awakening I did very much enjoy playing but was very dissapointed in some aspects. I really liked my new companions but I too felt very lonely because the game limited you from getting to know and talk to them like your old ones. That for me was the biggest missing factor in Awakenings. By the time I had collected most folks I really wanted my old friends at my side. It just was not the same without the closeness my character had with her old pals. Especially my Alistair who was my fighting twin attached to each other's hips in more than one way. Posted Image
Awakenings also had the potentional to be a much longer expansion pack game. Even with the side quests and stuff it still felt like there was much missing. The ending was rather a dissappointing jolt. It was like jumping into a pool of water that was only 3 inches deep and you expected it to be at least 5 feet. The ending could have been better or more drawn out. I was queen with Alistair and I would have loved to been able to see a cut scened of me coming home to him. Or just a cut scene in general of the Warden being greeted by the King or Queen (whoever is in charge). Just anything because I was left hanging and felt rather cheated.
So my final review is DAO for me is just awesome. DAA is fun and intriguing but there is so much more potential they could have done with it.
Will I buy future DA games,  get just as addicted and post things I feel strongly about? Will I still be able to distinguish the difference between a game and real life? But of course!

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@ Gamaphrodite



Well if these are your first game forums I can understand why you'd think that perhaps they are extreme. Fact is, they aren't. Not by comparison to what's out there and not even by general forum standards really. You wanna see blood fly? Check out the Ship of Fools Christian forums. I used to hang out there when I was all spiritually questing as a mid-teen and boy-howdy will those folks rip you up a new one, sometimes even when you agree with them. Religion is scary that way.



Plus, it's the internet. Not only do we communicate less clearly in type and therefore leave a big window for misinterpretation, but we don't feel the impact of our statements on others until they are already "out there" for everyone to see - and be later debated by someone you never specifically intended the comment for in the first place. It's the nature of the beast. You develop a tolerance and knack for it as time goes by, but don't worry, we're not all as crazy as we seem (and some of us are way crazier than we seem probably by contrast).



I'm in the disappointed with Awakenings camp overall. So much so that I am not sure I'll take all my Wardens through it until I know if / how it will affect future (if any) position of my Wardens.

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In some ways I was completely overwhelmed by this whole 'world' that appeared when I got Dragon Age. I'd never been so addicted to a game, esp to the point of actually joining an online website so that I could get involved in the discussions (Do I sound mental?) It took me by surprise. And then to see these people going crazy over a tactic preference or whatever. That's not to critisize opinion, before I'm jumped again. I am open-minded and hope that others will be too. It was the anger that struck me.



BTW - when I said try knitting I meant as a way to calm down - not that you should be knitting instead of playing DA :)


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 Try to think of it less as "anger" and more as "passion"  ;)

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Haha, yeah. It seems people are 'passionate' about a certain Grey Warden in DA. Mentioning no names. Sigh. Crushes on computer characters... how did we get here again?!

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It's healthy to have a vivid fantasy life. Specially as we get older, I think hehe

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Gemaphrodite wrote...

Haha, yeah. It seems people are 'passionate' about a certain Grey Warden in DA. Mentioning no names. Sigh. Crushes on computer characters... how did we get here again?!




Ah sigh, a big passion so much so you can't bring yourself to try anyone else sometimes!  As my husband put it Alistair, Zevran or Ser Gilmore are my second husbands and the game my second passion.  Good thing he is not the jealous type!  My goodness we are a bunch of nutty, fun gaming addicted lunatics in the best possible way!Posted Image

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Addai67 wrote...

Gemaphrodite wrote...

Go for walk to get out of the house, see friends, take up knitting... do something to calm yourself! Those who discuss these 'issues' and say that one of the characters didn't seem 'realistic' or whatever are missing some vital points: Darkspawn, Dragons, Mages and Elves do not exist. The whole game is fantasy and therefore it's unrealistic by default.

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In literary criticism, discussing whether something is realistic or plausible is judging it by its consistency with the rest of the story and with the larger lore.  It's a bit condescending to assume other players are discussing the story because we actually believe elves are real.  I mean, ...?

[*]I agree.  Last time I checked, no one around me has pointed ears or tries to win an argument by throwing a fire ball at me.  I think most of us are adults with an outside life house, yard and husband/wife, and just find video games fun.  
[*]I discuss the story line the way I would discuss a book or any other entertainment.  I've been lost in a book and there is not much difference in being lost in a good rpg.  Except in a video game, I am the main character, where in a book I'm just reading about them.