SleeplessInSigil wrote...

ROFL Western animation. "Dragon Age Forever," "Grey Man," "ABOMINATION!," "Warden League?" Yeah, no thanks.
Funny how all the haters in this thread still have yet to come up with even ONE (1) good example of "dark/gritty/kickass" from American animation so far, whether in terms of art or storytelling. (の_の)
Go on, get Googling people! because I can guarantee you won't come with anything off the top of your head just like that.
Oh and by the way fellas, THIS is what happened the last time a "Western studio" tried to animate an RPG. 
sorry- i don't have to google what i ALREADY cited in the post i made above. i'll just add to it and give you a link to the lotr animation in question i previously mentioned.
EXHIBIT A:
http://en.wikipedia....ings_(1978_film)
not counting "good times with weapons" by trey parker and matt stone, the last good anime was golgo 13 queen bee.
the only partially competant legitimate storytelling animators these days are the ones that from time to time put out a dc animated MOVIE. hence my suggestion to recruit the creators of the justice league cartoon.
only if the story is done like golgo 13 or ninja scroll with NO japanese cultural additions or social idioms, will this movie be good.
otherwise were looking at another "naruto" or "inu yasha" or something equally cornball.
basically if there isn't enough blood and sex if its done anime style to make the movie rated nc 17, its bieng done wrong, that still doesn't mean its bieng done right, but at least it means we aren't getting cutesy wide eyed kids in an attempt to pawn dragon age off to 13 year old otakus.
EDIT:
and the dungeons and dragons cartoon, while cornball- was an example of typical 80's animation, out to make a buck not create some theatrical masterpiece.
not to mention that that cornball repeating cartoon, DESIGNED FOR KIDS is still better than 90% of the anime out there that is presented in the same format (obviously anything presented in 90 min movie style will be easier to produce a better story since it fits into a more clear-cut movie format).
and don't forget- anime produced the worst peice of trash of all time- the black blade of kamui.
realistically however, western animation and japanese animation have approached storytelling from different angles, with the majority of the target audience of western animation limited by comparison since western society largely regarded animation as "cartoon shorts" or "for kids".
so to cite something that was CLEARLY designed for kids, and displayed in a time slot on saturday morning is misstating the facts just as if i made the claim that all anime is like pokemon (which its not- given some of what ive cited so far even).
but its not RPG one should be looking for, but cartoons and animators of classics like bakshi's lord of the rings adaptations, pirates of dark water, any of bruce timm's adaptations (justice league, superman, batman, etc.), or similar current dc movies, additionally if disney can keep thier "childish" crap out of it, given the early treatment gargoyles was given, if they do it under a studio that is a subsidiary and doesn't carry the disney name (so they can be as violent as they want), then even something connected to the dreaded "mouse" can give this better treatment than a company that produced one of if not the most garbage anime series of all time.
Modifié par Bluto Blutarskyx, 10 juin 2010 - 10:13 .