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[bl00dsh0t]

Maferath wrote...

Anime can pull the medieval fantasy look very well, just look at Berserk

Exactly, anime can do a lot horribly wrong but there are series out there that are brilliant. I do sincerely hope they don't go all cute and cuddly with it, but I doubt they are THAT retarded ;D

Lets start the f*ck it all speeches once we know more about it, not prematurely. If they get a decent story with good voiceacting it may very well be decent. I do doubt we will get something as great as berserk, but I'm pretty confident they won't stick us with some cutesy characters and some kiddy friendly story...or at least I hope ^^

[k9medusa]

Do think it will be rated "R" or "M" like the game or it will be down graded to PG-13 for more people who might watch it?

[HoonDing]

k9medusa wrote...

Do think it will be rated "R" or "M" like the game or it will be down graded to PG-13 for more people who might watch it?

Two words: Dragon Knight.

[Indoctrination]

k9medusa wrote...

Do think it will be rated "R" or "M" like the game or it will be down graded to PG-13 for more people who might watch it?

I don't think they'll have to censor themselves for anything other than taste. If FUNimation is handling it, it's probably going straight to DVD and/or Blu-ray.

[SleeplessInSigil]

Behindyounow wrote...

Oh yeah, because when you have a problem with eyeliner wearing samurai with the faces of twelve year olds being presented as bad asses, you obviously have unrealistic conceptions of masculinity.

There's something called artistic expression and aesthetics, but I see, so as long as the 12-year-old faces are supposed to be the defenders o JUSTICE and FREEDOM and Apple Pie then it rocks socks?





Admit it, it's the tights that get you off. 

or maybe if they just have pointy ears?



Yeah, no, thanks, I'd rather have Grey Wardens looking like medieval soldiers (which samurai come pretty close to) than mutants and aliens running around in a lack of fabric.


but please, do keep raging against rising trends, it's what the cool cynics do! That worked against Jazz, Rock & Roll, Rap, Hanna–Barbera and everything else didn't it?

[David Gaider]

I find it very interesting, if not surprising, how very narrow some fans' perceptions are regarding what Dragon Age could or should be-- as if the audience for Dragon Age didn't literally encompass millions of people and they all enjoyed it for one thing and one thing only.
I suppose it's easier that way. If something like this anime turns out to be good, you get to be pleasantly surprised. If it's bad, you get to declare that you were right all along. And if you refuse to even admit the possibility that it might be good or that someone might like it who isn't you, you get to rage on the forums and decry the decline of all that is good in the world.

Win/Win/Win situation there, I guess.

[9985]

@ Mr. Gaider:



I know a lot of people (including myself in another thread) focused on the art style upon discussing the subject, BUT I'm also curious about the story. Are you going to be directly involved in the anime production?

[OldMan91]

IMO, it has more to do with the fact that there are plenty of other Western animation studios who could do just a good a job as FUNimation. The Western animation industry really needs a push and more publicity, and a Dragon Age animated film would have contributed to that.

[Behindyounow]

SleeplessInSigil wrote...
Admit it, it's the tights that get you off. 

Seriously...where did you get the whole super hero thing from?

SleeplessInSigil wrote...

Yeah, no, thanks, I'd rather have Grey Wardens looking like medieval soldiers (which samurai come pretty close to) than mutants and aliens running around in a lack of fabric.

Oh yes, because everyone knows Medieval soldiers wore guyliner and had perfect hair!

[Indoctrination]

OldMan91 wrote...

IMO, it has more to do with the fact that there are plenty of other Western animation studios who could do just a good a job as FUNimation. The Western animation industry really needs a push and more publicity, and a Dragon Age animated film would have contributed to that.

Like I said before, for all we know it was Funimation and Navarre who approached EA and BioWare about this and not the other way around. You guys are making a lot of assumptions.

[David Gaider]

9985 wrote...
I know a lot of people (including myself in another thread) focused on the art style upon discussing the subject, BUT I'm also curious about the story. Are you going to be directly involved in the anime production?

Directly involved-- as in writing the story? No, I'm not. I'm not involved beyond helping them with the lore.

[bl00dsh0t]

David Gaider wrote...

9985 wrote...
I know a lot of people (including myself in another thread) focused on the art style upon discussing the subject, BUT I'm also curious about the story. Are you going to be directly involved in the anime production?

Directly involved-- as in writing the story? No, I'm not. I'm not involved beyond helping them with the lore.

That's good to hear, would get scary if the writing team had no involvement at all  

It remains to be seen how the story will be related to DAO, I sincerely hope it will expand on the universe and not rewrite it. Would it be possible that it acts as a prelude to whatever title is coming in february?

[OldMan91]

Like I said before, for all we know it was Funimation and Navarre who approached EA and BioWare about this and not the other way around. You guys are making a lot of assumptions.

Even if this were the case, it doesn't make my point any less valid. Bioware should have said "No" and, if intrigued by the idea of making a Dragon Age animated movie, looked for another studio.

[Merci357]

David Gaider wrote...

I find it very interesting, if not surprising, how very narrow some fans' perceptions are regarding what Dragon Age could or should be-- as if the audience for Dragon Age didn't literally encompass millions of people and they all enjoyed it for one thing and one thing only.
I suppose it's easier that way. If something like this anime turns out to be good, you get to be pleasantly surprised. If it's bad, you get to declare that you were right all along. And if you refuse to even admit the possibility that it might be good or that someone might like it who isn't you, you get to rage on the forums and decry the decline of all that is good in the world.

Win/Win/Win situation there, I guess.

Almost right, however, is it narrow to openly say that anime isn't typically the medium I like? I don't watch anime on a regular basis, like I don't play JRPG games often. Why is that? Just because I don't like their visual style, my opinion isn't invalid.
I'm quite interested in Dragon Age, beyond the games. Thats why I read (and enjoyed!) your books. So I likely will watch this anime - if it happens to get good reviews, because I like DA, not because I'm an anime fan. If anything, I'd prefer a CGI movie, or even a machinina, but then again, those are as much targeted for a niche market as anime are. Or do you really regard anime as mainstream these days?

[9985]

David Gaider wrote...

9985 wrote...
I know a lot of people (including myself in another thread) focused on the art style upon discussing the subject, BUT I'm also curious about the story. Are you going to be directly involved in the anime production?

Directly involved-- as in writing the story? No, I'm not. I'm not involved beyond helping them with the lore.

Thanks for the answer! I'm a little less worried of the anime now.

Hmm... I was thinking that the anime will be a tie-in between DAO and DA2 given the 2011 release. Will this be the case? Also, if you're helping out with the lore, is there someone else in DA's writing team who will come up with the plot? I'm concerned on how much control BioWare has with this production.

[Indoctrination]

OldMan91 wrote...

Like I said before, for all we know it was Funimation and Navarre who approached EA and BioWare about this and not the other way around. You guys are making a lot of assumptions.

Even if this were the case, it doesn't make my point any less valid. Bioware should have said "No" and, if intrigued by the idea of making a Dragon Age animated movie, looked for another studio.

BioWare should have said no to what was probably the only company interested in funding a movie like this? Great idea, friend. I can see you have an eye for business. I'm offering internships at my quickly rising company "nornE". I think you should apply.

But seriously now, you're just coming up with excuses to rag on this movie before you know anything about it. There's no need, and it's certainly not constructive.

Modifié par Indoctrination, 08 juin 2010 - 05:38 .

[MerinTB]

Most video games and most tv shows and most books and most movies are all crap, too - because somethings are bad is no reason to not hope a new project will be good.

Honestly, is there possibly any piece of news that could ever be announced on an internet forum without the majority of responses being negative?

Forum - "Forum-goers, you all win $10!"
Forum Goers - "$10? Cheapskates!" "I bet it's ten American dollars." "Sure, bribing us." "Money is evil." "The last ten bucks I spent was for something bad - this ten bucks will most likely be poorly spent as well." "You just want us as a tax write-off!" "Trying to get our names and addresses, eh?"

Seriously people.

Modifié par MerinTB, 08 juin 2010 - 05:39 .

[OldMan91]

BioWare should have said no to what was probably the only company interested in funding a movie like this? Great idea, friend. I can see you have an eye for business. I'm offering internships at my quickly rising company "nornE". I think you should apply.

Your sarcasm is unwarranted. I'm sure there are plenty other studios who would take up the job of producing the movie, if markets are anything to go by. Though it's curious how you mention that it's "probably the only company interested in funding a movie like this" and then say:

before you know anything about it.

I simply do not want to another anime-styled movie. There are hundreds of them out there, and too few Western animated movies.

[PoisonTheCity]

I, for one, am looking forward to this. Anime can depict things in a very dark style that would complement DA perfectly. The only things that could be disappointing for me in DA anime is voice acting that doesn't quite match the standards of DA or huge discrepancies in the basic lore.

Modifié par PoisonTheCity, 08 juin 2010 - 05:56 .

[Indoctrination]

OldMan91 wrote...

Your sarcasm is unwarranted. I'm sure there are plenty other studios who would take up the job of producing the movie, if markets are anything to go by. Though it's curious how you mention that it's "probably the only company interested in funding a movie like this"

How are you sure about that exactly? By all means, list the studios who you are "sure" are eager to make expensive movies about video games. While you're at it, post this marketing data that you're citing for us. FUNimation created a new branch last year specifically dedicated to making new media out of western properties. This is a natural fit for them.

and then say:

before you know anything about it.

I simply do not want to another anime-styled movie. There are hundreds of them out there, and too few Western animated movies.

Ah. So in other words you're just biased against anime beyond redemption, and all of your other excuses are just a smokescreen. Thank you for being so honest.

[soteria]

Your sarcasm is unwarranted. I'm sure there are plenty other studios who would take up the job of producing the movie, if markets are anything to go by. Though it's curious how you mention that it's "probably the only company interested in funding a movie like this" and then say:

Most game to film projects seem to flop in the US, so I doubt very many studios were eager to attempt this. That's probably doubly true for fantasy, which has never done that well on film except for LoTR and Star Wars. You have to think, DA sold what, 4 million copies or so with a targeted audience in the tens of millions? How big will the audience be for a movie about that game?

[Demx]

David Gaider wrote...

I find it very interesting, if not surprising, how very narrow some fans' perceptions are regarding what Dragon Age could or should be-- as if the audience for Dragon Age didn't literally encompass millions of people and they all enjoyed it for one thing and one thing only.
I suppose it's easier that way. If something like this anime turns out to be good, you get to be pleasantly surprised. If it's bad, you get to declare that you were right all along. And if you refuse to even admit the possibility that it might be good or that someone might like it who isn't you, you get to rage on the forums and decry the decline of all that is good in the world.

Win/Win/Win situation there, I guess.

I hate to tell you this Gaider, but anime is a very small niche in America. It's probably even smaller in Europe. Then you also have to deal with subgroups within the anime community. The loudest of these groups are the people who won't touch any anime that didn't start in Japan. The idea that American company is involved with the process, automatically turns them off. You will also loose another group of people if you don't have a Japanese audio track, with English subtitles. Of course there are those who hate the offical subtitles, and strictly like fansubs. Oh, and we can't forget the people who like to stream anime for free and never pay for it.

[TheMadCat]

David Gaider wrote...

I find it very interesting, if not surprising, how very narrow some fans' perceptions are regarding what Dragon Age could or should be-- as if the audience for Dragon Age didn't literally encompass millions of people and they all enjoyed it for one thing and one thing only.
I suppose it's easier that way. If something like this anime turns out to be good, you get to be pleasantly surprised. If it's bad, you get to declare that you were right all along. And if you refuse to even admit the possibility that it might be good or that someone might like it who isn't you, you get to rage on the forums and decry the decline of all that is good in the world.

Win/Win/Win situation there, I guess.

I'm a bit curious about how you really feel about this considering not to long ago in an interview you essentially stated that the reason you took on the added burden of writing the novels was because you didn't feel comfortable with someone touching your baby. Since I highly doubt they went to your and asked for approval fron my place on the outside it seems like they just snatched your baby from your arms and ran off with it. I'm not trying to provoke anything here, I'm just really curious about how you feel about having no real input or power on major project going on in the universe you essentially created and cherish. 

And most of us here don't want to see this thing fail so we can gloat on the boards saying "we're right". Reality is if it's done bad it'll have a negative impact on BioWare and the Dragon Age universes image. We're not sinisterly rubbing our hands to together and twirling our mustaches going off with an evil laugh, we don't want to see the image of your company and universe tarnished for something that really didn't need to come about and ultimately makes no sense. History says these type of products which stem from video games are doomed to an abysmal failure, there is a chance it could be good, but odds are quite against it.

[OldMan91]

[Quoet]How are you sure about that exactly? By all means, list the studios who you are "sure" are eager to make expensive movies about video games.[/Quote]
I've already mentioned some Western series/movies in a previous post, you can check the companies behind them.

[quote]While you're at it, post this marketing data that you're citing for us.[/quote]I didn't say "marketing data" or point to any specific market. I said "if markets are anything to go by", as in if the principle of the free market is correct, then there must be someone available to take up the job.

[quote]Ah. So in other words you're just biased against anime beyond redemption, and all of your other excuses are just a smokescreen. Thank you for being so honest.[/quote]I don't see why you're so hostile about my opinion, but okay. I did mention in the said previous post that i'm personaly tired of anime at this point, as i've read and see lots of manga and anime in my teenage years. I haven't made a secret of that, so I don't know why you're so surprised, especially with something as subjective as art or drawing styles.
[quote]Most game to film projects seem to flop in the US, so I doubt very many studios were eager to attempt this. That's probably doubly true for fantasy, which has never done that well on film except for LoTR and Star Wars. You have to think, DA sold what, 4 million copies or so with a targeted audience in the tens of millions? How big will the audience be for a movie about that game?[/quote]You do have a point about the difficulty in getting a video-game turned to movie, given the low number of target groups. Still I would have liked if another company had offered/had taken the offer to produce the DA movie. Of course I'm just one person, and what I think in the grand scheme of things is pretty insignificant, so...

Modifié par OldMan91, 08 juin 2010 - 06:20 .

[Indoctrination]

Siradix wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I find it very interesting, if not surprising, how very narrow some fans' perceptions are regarding what Dragon Age could or should be-- as if the audience for Dragon Age didn't literally encompass millions of people and they all enjoyed it for one thing and one thing only.
I suppose it's easier that way. If something like this anime turns out to be good, you get to be pleasantly surprised. If it's bad, you get to declare that you were right all along. And if you refuse to even admit the possibility that it might be good or that someone might like it who isn't you, you get to rage on the forums and decry the decline of all that is good in the world.

Win/Win/Win situation there, I guess.

I hate to tell you this Gaider, but anime is a very small niche in America. It's probably even smaller in Europe. Then you also have to deal with subgroups within the anime community. The loudest of these groups are the people who won't touch any anime that didn't start in Japan. The idea that American company is involved with the process, automatically turns them off. You will also loose another group of people if you don't have a Japanese audio track, with English subtitles. Of course there are those who hate the offical subtitles, and strictly like fansubs. Oh, and we can't forget the people who like to stream anime for free and never pay for it.

You should probably be made aware that this isn't the first anime movie to come from the west. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust was funded by Urban Vision (which is based in Los Angelas), it premiered in the U.S. before Japan, it was originally released in English only, and it still did pretty well. It has a well deserved fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, because it was a good movie. I don't remember hearing anyone dismiss it because it didn't have Japanese audio or because it was an anime movie.