No black people
#76
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 12:34
#77
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 12:45
Slidell505 wrote...
Well, I've asked this question before, are the Qunari actually simply large humans, or a distinct race of giants?
Because if they are nonhuman, then they are really another race -- as in, being another species, like dwarves and elves. Not a different "variety" of people.
I think the Darkspawn can answer that, specifically, the Broodmother. A human Broodmother spawns Hurlocks while a Qunari Broodmother spawns Ogres.
So based on this, I'd say the Qunari are of a different species.
#78
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 12:56
Modifié par Aryck1095 V2, 10 juin 2010 - 12:57 .
#79
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 02:08
If you're going to put them in a game then they need some explanation as to where they originated from or it's just silly.
It's a made up fantasy world, based on our real world's medieval period.
Therefore, they are free to make it as like or not like our real world as they want.
Now, it's interesting. Ferelden is very much UNLIKE the medieval world in that men and women are equal and its equivalent of the Catholic Church (the Chantry) is RUN by women ... so they also have decided to make aspects of this medieval-based fantasy world more palatable to the tastes of a modern audience.
If they did it with gender ... they can do it for phenotype. But so you can't have it both ways.
If Thedas is a made up world ... parts of it can have as little or as many black people as they want. It doesn't have to have an "Africa" but it could have its equivalent ... wherever they want to put it.
If it is based on our real world's medieval European period ... well, like I said, then even that world had black people in it. More than I think most people realize, which is my point.
#80
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:38
#81
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:38
Modifié par Jestina, 10 juin 2010 - 04:38 .
#82
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:39
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Jestina wrote...
It's still retarded to put dark skinned people into Euro type setting just because someone wants to pull a race card. Unless they write up a reason for why they are there and where they come from.
This isn't england..........It's thedas.........why can't dark skinned people be from thedas.
#83
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:44
Jestina wrote...
It's still retarded to put dark skinned people into Euro type setting just because someone wants to pull a race card. Unless they write up a reason for why they are there and where they come from.
Heh, don't presume it's the race card that the devs added non-European analogues into a typical fantasy world. The reasons for authors adding exotic peoples are their own. What's the point of having a people like the qunari or the Rivaini if you think Bioware wants to pidgeonhole their setting as purely European?
Modifié par monkeycamoran, 10 juin 2010 - 04:45 .
#84
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:45
#85
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:48
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Jestina wrote...
There's no explanation for it. How did they get dark and why isn't everyone that way. Okay so you have dark people...where did they come from. Obviously they had to come from somewhere that had high sun exposure and that's not the setting of the game.
Are there black people in america......nevermind take me out of this argument.
#86
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:50
#87
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:52
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Jestina wrote...
There are now thanks to more modern methods of travel. Do they have boats and planes to take them all over the place in medieval times?
Almost all of thedas is connected sugar.
Modifié par Cleopatra II, 10 juin 2010 - 04:56 .
#88
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 04:59
There's not a lot of culture mixing like in current times. Toward the era of exploration you may see more and more, particular around port cities but not much further outward.
Most fantasy settings keep the divided cultures and this one is about the same. So again, if you have a dark skinned human race...where did they come from and why would the natives not be suspicious of them, like they are with just about all other outsiders?
#89
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:01
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Dragon Age is not always so exact.....why are the chasind so dark if they are from icelands.Jestina wrote...
You think too modern. There was not a lot of mixing of cultures. Try walking or taking a horse out for a day and see how far you get.
There's not a lot of culture mixing like in current times. Toward the era of exploration you may see more and more, particular around port cities but not much further outward.
Most fantasy settings keep the divided cultures and this one is about the same. So again, if you have a dark skinned human race...where did they come from and why would the natives not be suspicious of them, like they are with just about all other outsiders?
#90
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:08
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Jestina wrote...
There are now thanks to more modern methods of travel. Do they have boats and planes to take them all over the place in medieval times?
We are talking about a magic fantasy land here, there is no local reason not to have them. How did the elf and dwarfs get there? I mean this hole argument that there shouldn't be black people because of historic and technological limitations is stupid.
#91
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:08
aaniadyen wrote...
Topher87 wrote...
I think we all should be thankful for the fact that there are no Orcs in Dragon Age.
There are orcs in DA. They're just called Darkspawn.
yes the not-orc hurlocks and the not-goblin genlocks
#92
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:10
Celrath wrote...
There shouldn't be, given the setting, unless there is a reason for it and they've written out the race, culture etc. Just putting dark skinned people into the setting for no other reason than people pulling race cards is stupid.
Modifié par Jestina, 10 juin 2010 - 05:11 .
#93
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:13
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Jestina wrote...
Celrath wrote...
There shouldn't be, given the setting, unless there is a reason for it and they've written out the race, culture etc. Just putting dark skinned people into the setting for no other reason than people pulling race cards is stupid.
Okay, explain the logical reason there can't be genetic diversity then.
#94
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:14
#95
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:19
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Jestina wrote...
I'm waiting for them to Africanize Middle Earth. Just watch, it will happen.
Did I miss the part in his Tolkien's books were he said everyone had one skin color?
Modifié par Celrath, 10 juin 2010 - 05:20 .
#96
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:24
Celrath wrote...
Did I miss the part in his Tolkien's books were he said everyone had one skin tone?
Middle Earth is England...as is the majority of Hyperboria(the Conan setting).
Englanders tend to be white...not much sunshine there.
#97
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:32
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Again were in his books does it state that Middle Earth is England?Jestina wrote...
Celrath wrote...
Did I miss the part in his Tolkien's books were he said everyone had one skin tone?
Middle Earth is England...as is the majority of Hyperboria(the Conan setting).
Englanders tend to be white...not much sunshine there.Now there are dark skinned people in Hyperboria I believe...picts which is probably none too flattering.
#98
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:40
#99
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Posté 10 juin 2010 - 05:54
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Jestina wrote...
It's known...well probably not to casual fans. Middle Earth takes place in England, during a different era. The majority of fantasy games take place in a medieval England type setting.
No, its topography was based off England, but was not England itself.
I believe Tolkien himself stated that Middle-earth was not at a physically distant time, but at a different stage of imagination.
#100
Posté 10 juin 2010 - 06:04




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