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[Soverign 666]

Ok so ive been wondering this for awhile the whole point of mass effect was that the reapers were trapped in dark space until the citadel is activated but at the end of mass effect 2 they just start flying to the galaxy shouldn't it take them thousands of years to reach us that way? And if not why did soverign bother with the citadel in the first place?

[tmk]

They would prefer to invade through the Citadel, because it's a surprise attack - they destroy the galactic government, get all the information, and gain access to whatever "undocumented features" they installed (like controlling the gate network) before galactic civilizations even realize they're under attack. They can apparently reach the Milky Way on their own as a last resort, but it's far from their preferred option.

[Soverign 666]

Well if thats the case why not have soverign get like 5 or 6 reapers to come for backup then during the suprise attack on the citabel he could have shown up with a small fleet of reapers not geth the reapers could kill the alliance while he opens up the citadel and has all the others come

[Sand King]

Scooty-Puff, Sr.

[Renegade133]

because for them to get close enough to support would be noticed alot sooner

[AusShep]

While this is a topic that has been widely debated, I believe that doing so at this point in time is pretty futile.

Remember that this is a trilogy, and we only know 2 of the 3 parts. Since the moment in question happens at the very end of ME2, it is highly likely that we simply don't know enough to accurately guess on the Reapers current state. For example, we all know prior to ME2 that human colonies were vanishing... but there was no way we had enough information to figure out the collectors plan.

However, we have been given clues. The recurrence of Dark Energy, the aging sun, remote indoctrination... ME2 gave us lots of new tidbits of info, but we still probably don't know the big picture.

Then again, speculating is fun So I submit that the Reapers are actually building the Human Reaper to serve as the next Sovereign and somehow pave the way for the return of the fleet

[ShadyKat]

Doubt that this was the first time in billions of times the Reapers first plan of attack was stopped. I'm sure they have a plan b.

[Jackal904]

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok so ive been wondering this for awhile the whole point of mass effect was that the reapers were trapped in dark space until the citadel is activated but at the end of mass effect 2 they just start flying to the galaxy shouldn't it take them thousands of years to reach us that way? And if not why did soverign bother with the citadel in the first place?

Based on how far away the reaper fleet appeared to be from the milky way galaxy, yes, it should take them thousands and thousands of years, even if travelling at the speed of light, to reach the milky way galaxy. Just to put things into perspective, it would take roughly 100,000 years to go from one edge of the milky way galaxy to the opposite edge if you're traveling at the speed of light. Sure FTL (faster than light) travel exists in the Mass Effect universe. But even if FTL travel is twice the speed of light (even though I assume it is less than twice the speed), it would still take the reapers an extremely long time to reach the milky way galaxy. But of course, this is a video game, therefore anything can happen, even if it makes no sense.

Modifié par Jackal904, 08 juin 2010 - 03:56 .

[cbutz]

Since preparation A-G has failed, the Reapers have decided to initiate Preparation H! Sorry I had to.



I believe the Reapers , In ME2, were trying to wipe out as much of humanity as possible, make a human reaper, then pull a sovereign and go in through their surprise attack.



Perhaps there is a mass relay that connects dark space to the edge of the Galaxy? It is doubtful but hey they could write it in.



Perhaps the Reapers plan is to meander and take their time for a few hundred years so that Shep runs around like a crazy man screaming that the Reapers are coming ( the boy who cried Reapers!) , gets thrown in the loony bin. Society then forgets about the Reapers just in time for the Reapers to invade....

[Bluko]

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok so ive been wondering this for awhile the whole point of mass effect was that the reapers were trapped in dark space until the citadel is activated but at the end of mass effect 2 they just start flying to the galaxy shouldn't it take them thousands of years to reach us that way? And if not why did soverign bother with the citadel in the first place?

I thought this was the case, but given current FTL ship speeds (12 Lightyears per Day), it should only take the Reapers a few months to get to the Galaxy from Darkspace.

Even without the Relays it only takes roughly 22 years for a ship to traverse the entire diameter of the Galaxy. That's assuming they don't have to refuel or anything. Which the Reapers probably don't have to due to their powerful element zero cores.

[MrNose]

Addition to the above by cbutz.



It does seem like the Reapers were quite intent on building another plan of attack. If stealth was their only goal, they would have stayed silent until the fleet arrived. Instead they tried to build a human reaper which could emerge from Omega 4, jump straight to the Citadel, and then wtfpwn the galaxy.

[Jackal904]

Bluko wrote...

Soverign 666 wrote...

Ok so ive been wondering this for awhile the whole point of mass effect was that the reapers were trapped in dark space until the citadel is activated but at the end of mass effect 2 they just start flying to the galaxy shouldn't it take them thousands of years to reach us that way? And if not why did soverign bother with the citadel in the first place?

I thought this was the case, but given current FTL ship speeds (12 Lightyears per Day), it should only take the Reapers a few months to get to the Galaxy from Darkspace.

Even without the Relays it only takes roughly 22 years for a ship to traverse the entire diameter of the Galaxy. That's assuming they don't have to refuel or anything. Which the Reapers probably don't have to due to their powerful element zero cores.

Seriously? That's how fast FTL travel is in Mass Effect? Damn... Alright then I guess the reapers will be knocking on the milky way's doorstep in no time.

[cbutz]

Yea, I am not really sure why they were building a human-Reaper. Maybe a fully powered reaper can control, or remote indoctrinate, the race it is based off of. It is possible in a way because any race so far that has a reaper build in its image is gone. Could kill two birds with one stone: build a reaper and control the race that foiled your plan B.

[tmk]

Soverign 666 wrote...

Well if thats the case why not have soverign get like 5 or 6 reapers to come for backup then during the suprise attack on the citabel he could have shown up with a small fleet of reapers...

As far as I remember, Sovereign itself spent most of the time in hibernation, "waking up" every once in few thousand years to monitor the situation. Its role was to activate the Citadel relay, not fight through the Citadel fleet on its own. In fact, it's not clear if it would even need to "dock" with the Citadel had it not been hacked by the Proteans. Leaving more Reapers behind wouldn't really help to do what they planned, and would just increase the chances of them being discovered while in hibernation.

[Ecael]

Bluko wrote...

Even without the Relays it only takes roughly 22 years for a ship to traverse the entire diameter of the Galaxy. That's assuming they don't have to refuel or anything. Which the Reapers probably don't have to due to their powerful element zero cores.

We're going to stop the Reapers by taking away all their Fuel Depots at the last minute, leaving them stranded in the intergalactic space near the Citadel.



"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-"

[NICKjnp]

Ecael wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Even without the Relays it only takes roughly 22 years for a ship to traverse the entire diameter of the Galaxy. That's assuming they don't have to refuel or anything. Which the Reapers probably don't have to due to their powerful element zero cores.

We're going to stop the Reapers by taking away all their Fuel Depots at the last minute, leaving them stranded in the intergalactic space near the Citadel.



"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-"

then they will just switch to there mineral resources until they reach a system with a fuel platform.

[Sajuro]

NICKjnp wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Even without the Relays it only takes roughly 22 years for a ship to traverse the entire diameter of the Galaxy. That's assuming they don't have to refuel or anything. Which the Reapers probably don't have to due to their powerful element zero cores.

We're going to stop the Reapers by taking away all their Fuel Depots at the last minute, leaving them stranded in the intergalactic space near the Citadel.



"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-"

then they will just switch to there mineral resources until they reach a system with a fuel platform.

They didn't do the planet scanning so no minerals for them.

[Reptilian Rob]

Sajuro wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Bluko wrote...

Even without the Relays it only takes roughly 22 years for a ship to traverse the entire diameter of the Galaxy. That's assuming they don't have to refuel or anything. Which the Reapers probably don't have to due to their powerful element zero cores.

We're going to stop the Reapers by taking away all their Fuel Depots at the last minute, leaving them stranded in the intergalactic space near the Citadel.



"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-"

then they will just switch to there mineral resources until they reach a system with a fuel platform.

They didn't do the planet scanning so no minerals for them.

HAHA, THAT SLAPS ME ON THE KNEE!

[Chuvvy]

The Milkyway is around 100000 thousand l y across. That's trillions and trillions of miles. To put Trillion in layman's terms, 1 million seconds is 12 days. 1 billion seconds is 31 years, 259 days. 1 trillion seconds is 31,688 Years, 269 Days. So yeah... to see the whole galaxy from arm to arm they'd need to be very far away.

[KalosCast]

dark energy

just... dark energy

[Chuvvy]

KalosCast wrote...

dark energy
just... dark energy

Dark energy just tears the univers apart. It pulls dark matter condences. In theory, at least. But the ME univers has no problem taking a dumb on science. FTL is proof of that.

Modifié par Slidell505, 08 juin 2010 - 06:28 .

[KalosCast]

Slidell505 wrote...

KalosCast wrote...

dark energy
just... dark energy

Dark energy just tears the univers apart. It pulls dark matter condences. In theory, at least. But the ME univers has no problem taking a dumb on science. FTL is proof of that.

Well yeah, but a space adventure without Sci Fi magic FTL would just be stupid.

"Your descendants finally make it to the Citadel, the reapers killed everyone here 4000 years ago. You slowly starve to death in an empty space station. Stay tuned for ME2!"

Modifié par KalosCast, 08 juin 2010 - 06:33 .

[ObserverStatus]

Maybe they'll cannibalize one of their own and use it's parts to build a mass relay.

[ObserverStatus]

Slidell505 wrote...

KalosCast wrote...

dark energy
just... dark energy

Dark energy just tears the univers apart. It pulls dark matter condences. In theory, at least. But the ME univers has no problem taking a dumb on science. FTL is proof of that.

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