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#101
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Thanks, Smudboy. Laughed my [rear] off :)

It's funny, cuz it's true.

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smudboy wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

So, do you have a life, or do you just spend it ****ing about a game. Just give it a rest.


No.  And no.


This forum needs less trolls.

And yes, that's directed at you. And before you jump on the "different opinion doesn't mean troll" bandwagon, I realise that. I respect that you didn't like the game. I did. Different opinion. If, after the game was out, you made a couple of threads about why you thought it sucked, then fair enough. But months after it's release, if you're STILL spamming the forums with reasons why you didn't like it, then yes, that makes you a troll.

Modifié par Jzadek72, 08 juin 2010 - 10:52 .


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Its was good and I hope all the ****ing everyone did in the first 3 weeks the game came out had a good impact on Biowares writers and game designers from the game. I also wanted to point out the reason the second game plot wasn't so fetching was because people Complained about the first game to much. Point TAken!

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Tooneyman wrote...

Its was good and I hope all the ****ing everyone did in the first 3 weeks the game came out had a good impact on Biowares writers and game designers from the game.

It had an impact, alright - now they hardly show up. When they do, they automatically get flamed regardless of what they say, and their words are either interpreted as saying "BioWare thinks we're all stupid!" or "EA is indoctrinating them!"

And for the people complaining about the plot non-stop and wondering why any trolls take forever for the other mods to deal with, watch Mass Effect 2's credits again and look who's on the Quality Assurance Story Team.

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Ecael wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Its was good and I hope all the ****ing everyone did in the first 3 weeks the game came out had a good impact on Biowares writers and game designers from the game.

It had an impact, alright - now they hardly show up. When they do, they automatically get flamed regardless of what they say, and their words are either interpreted as saying "BioWare thinks we're all stupid!" or "EA is indoctrinating them!"

And for the people complaining about the plot non-stop and wondering why any trolls take forever for the other mods to deal with, watch Mass Effect 2's credits again and look who's on the Quality Assurance Story Team.


Well said, both of you.

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Ecael wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Its was good and I hope all the ****ing everyone did in the first 3 weeks the game came out had a good impact on Biowares writers and game designers from the game.

It had an impact, alright - now they hardly show up. When they do, they automatically get flamed regardless of what they say, and their words are either interpreted as saying "BioWare thinks we're all stupid!" or "EA is indoctrinating them!"

And for the people complaining about the plot non-stop and wondering why any trolls take forever for the other mods to deal with, watch Mass Effect 2's credits again and look who's on the Quality Assurance Story Team.

They had a Quality Assurance Story Team?

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Jzadek72 wrote...

smudboy wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

So, do you have a life, or do you just spend it ****ing about a game. Just give it a rest.


No.  And no.


This forum needs less trolls.

And yes, that's directed at you. And before you jump on the "different opinion doesn't mean troll" bandwagon, I realise that. I respect that you didn't like the game. I did. Different opinion. If, after the game was out, you made a couple of threads about why you thought it sucked, then fair enough. But months after it's release, if you're STILL spamming the forums with reasons why you didn't like it, then yes, that makes you a troll.


This forum needs more arguments and less ad hominems.

No **** Sherlock.  If you respect my "opinion", whatever you think it to be, why are you bringing **** into this?

There's nothing wrong with voicing my opinon.  However I want.  However long I want.

I can apply the exact same argument to you and your opinion.

Deal with it.  Preferapy in a rational, argumentative manner. None of this "OMG smudboy AGAIN."  Don't read the post.  Don't watch my vids.

Essentially, **** off.

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Vaenier wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Its was good and I hope all the ****ing everyone did in the first 3 weeks the game came out had a good impact on Biowares writers and game designers from the game.

It had an impact, alright - now they hardly show up. When they do, they automatically get flamed regardless of what they say, and their words are either interpreted as saying "BioWare thinks we're all stupid!" or "EA is indoctrinating them!"

And for the people complaining about the plot non-stop and wondering why any trolls take forever for the other mods to deal with, watch Mass Effect 2's credits again and look who's on the Quality Assurance Story Team.

They had a Quality Assurance Story Team?

Yup. I remember hearing somewhere that they formed a QA Story Team for Mass Effect 2 to test potential scenarios beforehand (so that they don't waste resources on cutscenes, animations and missions that they'll never use).

They also doubled the number of writers working on Mass Effect 2, keeping the original 5.

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Ecael wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Its was good and I hope all the ****ing everyone did in the first 3 weeks the game came out had a good impact on Biowares writers and game designers from the game.

It had an impact, alright - now they hardly show up. When they do, they automatically get flamed regardless of what they say, and their words are either interpreted as saying "BioWare thinks we're all stupid!" or "EA is indoctrinating them!"

And for the people complaining about the plot non-stop and wondering why any trolls take forever for the other mods to deal with, watch Mass Effect 2's credits again and look who's on the Quality Assurance Story Team.

They had a Quality Assurance Story Team?

Yup. I remember hearing somewhere that they formed a QA Story Team for Mass Effect 2 to test potential scenarios beforehand (so that they don't waste resources on cutscenes, animations and missions that they'll never use).

They also doubled the number of writers working on Mass Effect 2, keeping the original 5.

Oh, so they werent in charge of it making sense, just making sure they dont waste resources. got it.

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smudboy wrote...

I can apply the exact same argument to you and your opinion.


Fair enough. But if you don't like the game, why do you insist on staying on a forum for half a year complaining about it? Why not just leave it behind you, and play something you do like? Does this really do anything constructive? I don't like some things about ME2, but I post them and move on. I read a book I don't like, I move on, and read something I do. If it's the sequel to a book I loved, I'll be quite angry, and yes, probably post a thread on the forums. I don't  spend months putting a tremendous workload into complaining.

Secondly, I liked the game in general, but yet I still haven't put in the same workload as you have complaining about it, praising it.

smudboy wrote...Deal with it.  Preferapy in a rational, argumentative manner. None of this "OMG smudboy AGAIN."  Don't read the post.  Don't watch my vids.

I believe I did deal with it in a rational and argumentative manner. I don't remember saying anything like "OMG smudboy AGAIN."

smudboy wrote...Essentially, **** off.


Right. Rational and argumentative. You truly are an example to us all.

Modifié par Jzadek72, 08 juin 2010 - 11:32 .


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Vaenier wrote...

Oh, so they werent in charge of it making sense, just making sure they dont waste resources. got it.

That job goes to the Lead Writers, Drew Karpyshyn and Mac Walters (both worked on Mass Effect 1). The Lead Writer's role is to maintain continuity throughout the entire game and throughout the series.

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Ecael wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Oh, so they werent in charge of it making sense, just making sure they dont waste resources. got it.

That job goes to the Lead Writers, Drew Karpyshyn and Mac Walters (both worked on Mass Effect 1). The Lead Writer's role is to maintain continuity throughout the entire game and throughout the series.

They outsource Jacob's Loyalty mission? Screwups dont come more obvious than that...

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Vaenier wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Oh, so they werent in charge of it making sense, just making sure they dont waste resources. got it.

That job goes to the Lead Writers, Drew Karpyshyn and Mac Walters (both worked on Mass Effect 1). The Lead Writer's role is to maintain continuity throughout the entire game and throughout the series.

They outsource Jacob's Loyalty mission? Screwups dont come more obvious than that...


If by outsource you mean hand the jobs to people who work for Bioware, then yes. 

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Vaenier wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Oh, so they werent in charge of it making sense, just making sure they dont waste resources. got it.

That job goes to the Lead Writers, Drew Karpyshyn and Mac Walters (both worked on Mass Effect 1). The Lead Writer's role is to maintain continuity throughout the entire game and throughout the series.

They outsource Jacob's Loyalty mission? Screwups dont come more obvious than that...


Jacob's loyalty mission was indeed weak, but I wouldn't call it a screw up. Screw up implies that the premise was ruined. It wan't. It was just a very bad premise.

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Vaenier wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Oh, so they werent in charge of it making sense, just making sure they dont waste resources. got it.

That job goes to the Lead Writers, Drew Karpyshyn and Mac Walters (both worked on Mass Effect 1). The Lead Writer's role is to maintain continuity throughout the entire game and throughout the series.

They outsource Jacob's Loyalty mission? Screwups dont come more obvious than that...

Screwups? The only one I can think of is the fact that there are heat sinks lying around, and even that is solely for gameplay purposes.

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And here we go again with the gorram flame wars, which, at the present, sadly, seem to define this forum.

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FourSixEight wrote...

And here we go again with the gorram flame wars, which, at the present, sadly, seem to define this forum.


Doesn't seem like flaming to me. Just discussion. I only use this forum, since it's for the only game I like enough, but reports say that places like the Bungie forum are really bad for flaming. After checking it out, I'd say this forum is pretty civil.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO FIGHT ABOUT IT LOL n00b. Pwned. :devil:

So yes. Just discussion. Ahem.

Modifié par Jzadek72, 08 juin 2010 - 11:45 .


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Fair enough. But if you don't like the game, why do you insist on staying on a forum for half a year complaining about it? Why not just leave it behind you, and play something you do like? Does this really do anything constructive? I don't like some things about ME2, but I post them and move on. I read a book I don't like, I move on, and read something I do. If it's the sequel to a book I loved, I'll be quite angry, and yes, probably post a thread on the forums. I don't  spend months putting a tremendous workload into complaining.

Secondly, I liked the game in general, but yet I still haven't put in the same workload as you have complaining about it, praising it.

You're assuming I don't like the game.

You also made an ad hom attack on me.  Grow up.

I feel like doing whatever I ****ing want, thanks.

Wow, I can apply that same argument to this post.  Don't like what's said?  Move on.  Better yet, don't even bother responding.

Now I'm waiting for you to say something meaningful within the context of the forum topic.  As in its content.  If you wish to berate me or tell me off, please send me an email.  That would be swell.

I believe I did deal with it in a rational and argumentative manner. I don't remember saying anything like "OMG smudboy AGAIN."

By starting off with an ad hom?  No, I don't think so.  Emotional outbursts seem to work for you, so let's try this again:

**** off.

Start up your own post on talk with people about topics that don't cause you to grimace or have a second opinion.  I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself more.

Right. Rational and argumentative. You truly are an example to us all.

I'd love to be.  Still waiting on you to say something I can respond with.  I can only return what you give me, chump.

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ZennExile wrote...



The lulz start on page one my friend. They only take small breaks for douchebaggery along the way but I tried to turn douche in haha as much as possible.




No truer words have been spoken

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Vaenier wrote...

Ecael wrote...

Vaenier wrote...

Oh, so they werent in charge of it making sense, just making sure they dont waste resources. got it.

That job goes to the Lead Writers, Drew Karpyshyn and Mac Walters (both worked on Mass Effect 1). The Lead Writer's role is to maintain continuity throughout the entire game and throughout the series.

They outsource Jacob's Loyalty mission? Screwups dont come more obvious than that...

Well, there are 10 writers total, and 10 original squadmates...

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smudboy wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...
Fair enough. But if you don't like the game, why do you insist on staying on a forum for half a year complaining about it? Why not just leave it behind you, and play something you do like? Does this really do anything constructive? I don't like some things about ME2, but I post them and move on. I read a book I don't like, I move on, and read something I do. If it's the sequel to a book I loved, I'll be quite angry, and yes, probably post a thread on the forums. I don't  spend months putting a tremendous workload into complaining.

Secondly, I liked the game in general, but yet I still haven't put in the same workload as you have complaining about it, praising it.

You're assuming I don't like the game.

You also made an ad hom attack on me.  Grow up.

I feel like doing whatever I ****ing want, thanks.

Wow, I can apply that same argument to this post.  Don't like what's said?  Move on.  Better yet, don't even bother responding.

Now I'm waiting for you to say something meaningful within the context of the forum topic.  As in its content.  If you wish to berate me or tell me off, please send me an email.  That would be swell.

I believe I did deal with it in a rational and argumentative manner. I don't remember saying anything like "OMG smudboy AGAIN."

By starting off with an ad hom?  No, I don't think so.  Emotional outbursts seem to work for you, so let's try this again:

**** off.

Start up your own post on talk with people about topics that don't cause you to grimace or have a second opinion.  I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself more.

Right. Rational and argumentative. You truly are an example to us all.

I'd love to be.  Still waiting on you to say something I can respond with.  I can only return what you give me, chump.


I fail to see what I have done that makes you so angry. I've been civil enough with you. Refraining from telling you to **** off. And do you want to know why? Because I'm genuinely eager to see what you can derive from my post that makes you seem to think I am being abusive. I merely wanted to debate the game. I am not here for a flamewar. I am interested, however, to find out your motivation for doing this is. Still though, you can continue to post snarkily and swear (alright, asterisk) at me, or you can also join in in a rational and arguementative debate, and tell me why the repeated posting of rudely written topics does not make you a troll.  

And towards that last part: What?

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Jzadek72 wrote...

FourSixEight wrote...

And here we go again with the gorram flame wars, which, at the present, sadly, seem to define this forum.


Doesn't seem like flaming to me. Just discussion. I only use this forum, since it's for the only game I like enough, but reports say that places like the Bungie forum are really bad for flaming. After checking it out, I'd say this forum is pretty civil.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO FIGHT ABOUT IT LOL n00b. Pwned. :devil:

So yes. Just discussion. Ahem.


No, I shall just watch for now. And consume popcorn.

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FourSixEight wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

FourSixEight wrote...

And here we go again with the gorram flame wars, which, at the present, sadly, seem to define this forum.


Doesn't seem like flaming to me. Just discussion. I only use this forum, since it's for the only game I like enough, but reports say that places like the Bungie forum are really bad for flaming. After checking it out, I'd say this forum is pretty civil.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO FIGHT ABOUT IT LOL n00b. Pwned. :devil:

So yes. Just discussion. Ahem.


No, I shall just watch for now. And consume popcorn.


Back in the day we would have quotation pyramids with outbursts about why Jacob's loyalty mission is racist and we would acuse other posters of being someone else while Gary Busey and Tom Cruise would show up. 

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

FourSixEight wrote...

Jzadek72 wrote...

FourSixEight wrote...

And here we go again with the gorram flame wars, which, at the present, sadly, seem to define this forum.


Doesn't seem like flaming to me. Just discussion. I only use this forum, since it's for the only game I like enough, but reports say that places like the Bungie forum are really bad for flaming. After checking it out, I'd say this forum is pretty civil.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO FIGHT ABOUT IT LOL n00b. Pwned. :devil:

So yes. Just discussion. Ahem.


No, I shall just watch for now. And consume popcorn.


Back in the day we would have quotation pyramids with outbursts about why Jacob's loyalty mission is racist and we would acuse other posters of being someone else while Gary Busey and Tom Cruise would show up. 

Those were happier days.

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Jzadek72 wrote...
I am interested, however, to find out your motivation for doing this is.


Because I can.