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The irony is that Alistair is pretty much like most nerds in that he's a sarcastic wimp, yet he's got all the fangirls and the real nerds just have their hands. It must be the accent?

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Speaking as a female I found him utterly repulsive and opted for Zevran. That said I’m immune to the accent seeing as every man I’ve ever known has had one fairly similar.

I figured he was just the safe option for teenage girls, he's awkward, he's a virgin, he says dashing things and gives you roses. (That said my mum played the game and became completely enamoured by him).

Meh Alistair can call again in 10 years when he's licked a few more lampposts…

Modifié par Acirederf, 08 juin 2010 - 11:12 .


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Alistair is not a wimp. Just because he doesn't bleed testosterone, doesn't make him weak.  He simply hasn't EVER lead or been taught to lead.  This doesn't make him weak.  It makes him inexperienced.  His strength lies in his easy going temperament.  This is what kept him from being totally screwed up by the people who suppose to  look after him.  I just get tired of hearing the "weak-whiney-wimp" words used to describe this character when it is simply not the case.  Honestly, I wouldn't change him for the world.  As he gets experience, he will develop what he needs to become a true leader, self confidence.

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The perfect npc love interest would be a mix of Alistair and Zev...



I like Alistair and have romanced him. To me his biggest problem is one that time will overcome. He's written as being young, inexperienced and very very sheltered.



From what the dialogue hints he's been told from an early age he's not worth anything and certainly that he's not fit to lead.



I'm not sure about the accent thing - although - I love the way the VA says "darkspawn". Not sure why, I'm probably just odd.

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Lillgremlin wrote...

His voice as well. I could just listen to him talk all day. His English accent is just yummy which is a big deal for me as I'm English myself so I've never found our accents very squee! worthy as to me it's just normal.


I know right? Or accents are about as romantic as Sten! Clearly nobody that thinks this has been to Birmingham. . .

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Alistair has a British accent? Bloody hellfire I'd never noticed that before, just sounded like a normal voice to me :blink:

Modifié par Kyoto Wolf, 09 juin 2010 - 12:01 .


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Kyoto Wolf wrote...

Alistair has a British accent? Bloody hellfire I'd never noticed that before, just sounded like a normal voice to me :blink:


haha - I have the same problem with Morrigan's VA - she sounds normal to me if  a bit posh (I'm Australian).

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For a very brief period I suspected that Alistair was voiced by Robert Webb. Then I found out he's actually some guy off of Crossing Jordan and my interest waned.

Modifié par cancerbaby, 09 juin 2010 - 12:56 .


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Avilia wrote...

Kyoto Wolf wrote...

Alistair has a British accent? Bloody hellfire I'd never noticed that before, just sounded like a normal voice to me :blink:


haha - I have the same problem with Morrigan's VA - she sounds normal to me if  a bit posh (I'm Australian).

i must be horrible at spotting accents
i really cant hear  any of those.
*USA California*
they speak english
they sound normal to me.

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If you want a brittish accent, an elven female PC with voice set to violent should do :D

I heard "Can I get you a ladder so you can get of my back?" and I was in love...

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cancerbaby wrote...

For a very brief period I suspected that Alistair was voiced by Robert Webb. Then I found out he's actually some guy off of Crossing Jordan and my interest waned.


Thanks for the great link.  I'm a big Mitchell & Webb look fan, meself.  That link is a classic.

My hubby thinks Alistair has a fake accent.   He just does not understand.  Image IPB

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If you make a thread of fans spamming showing support for Alistair

you can get him in the next game.

Its worked so far for Tali.


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Women love him for his TAINT!



He sure likes to talk about it alot.

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Astranagant wrote...

The irony is that Alistair is pretty much like most nerds in that he's a sarcastic wimp, yet he's got all the fangirls and the real nerds just have their hands. It must be the accent?


Hey, women MARRY nerds. I did. Nerds are uber sexy once you get past... oh, about 20. They were in my case any way.

It's not just the accent - it's the whole package. I didn't even know you could romance characters in DA until I read it online - so I decided to romance Alistair and WHAM - was totally lost. He's flirty without being crude, kind and considerate, firm about what he believes in and very, very loyal.

Also... kind of HOT!

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Astranagant wrote...

The irony is that Alistair is pretty much like most nerds in that he's a sarcastic wimp, yet he's got all the fangirls and the real nerds just have their hands. It must be the accent?


You take a sarcastic wimp who is a hopeless romantic and put him in a 6'2ish body with about 4% body fat, a english accent, and can kick someones butt on Planet Thunderdome and I bet they'd have a fangirl or three as well.

Modifié par Swoo, 09 juin 2010 - 07:44 .


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Yes, the voice certainly helps. It's uber sexy.

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 well i don't understand  obsession with Morrigan , i mean really ,such a b*****:lol:

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As a guy who predominantly plays female characters (I have 1 male character, bar the Hurlock Vanguard - and do run-of-the-mill darkspawn even have sexes?), I've had my fair share of both Alistair and Zevran. As romances, I prefer them to the female ones. But my love for Morri as a friend and hatred as a romance is probably known by now =P. Oh, I'm also British, a bit lot of a geek, and a reasonable fan of Joss Whedon (mainly Firefly, Dollhouse and seasons 1&2 of Angel, to be precise). These probably factor somewhat into it.

Alistair is funny in that self-deprecating British way, where we all go on about how awful everything is (particularly Britain), but really love it all deep down. He comes across as lacking in self-confidence, a bit whimsical, highly idealistic and optimistic despite not having the easiest life, and with  genuinely good heart. There's something appealing about him. He reminds me of the kid who got bullied a lot in school and decided that it wasn't going to get him down and he was going to show them all by making something of his life, only he hasn't quite got there yet, and needs a bit of assistance, a bit of guidance - and playing as a female character, the fact he's willing to look up to a woman as a leader and as an inspiration is both refreshing and appealing. Despite being your senior, he recognises that you are fitter to lead than he is. I know its a game mechanic, but his humility there is nice. He knows where he's weak and doesn't try and foister his weaknesses onto other people. If you harden him in his personal quest, then he begins overcoming those weaknesses. That is also appealing. In a way, DA:O is as much Alistair's coming-of-age story as anything else, at least when played in a certain way.

While Alistair is a genuinely good guy, it must also be stated that Zevran is also a genuinely nice guy, but far less obviously at first. Zevran is the good boy pretending to be the bad boy, which is not to say he doesn't have 'bad boy' qualities. He most assuredly does. The Zevran romance also has the slightly more-adult feel of starting off as fun and developing into something a lot more. I also have to admit that, if both were female, I'd go for Zevran way ahead of Alistair.

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Eudaemonium I couldn't agree with you more. I think I'm only interested in Zevran in a lustful way. Alistair is the 'settle down with' sort of guy who'd you'd take home to meet mum and dad.

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Eudaemonium I couldn't agree with you more. I think I'm only interested in Zevran in a lustful way. Alistair is the 'settle down with' sort of guy who'd you'd take home to meet mum and dad.


Heh, well Zevran is an easy guy to lust after. See, the problem with taking Zev home to meet your parents is that no matter how happy you were you'd spend the next 20 years trying to convince them he was actually a nice guy. The fact he jokingly hit on your dad probably didn't help matters.

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Eudaemonium wrote...

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Eudaemonium I couldn't agree with you more. I think I'm only interested in Zevran in a lustful way. Alistair is the 'settle down with' sort of guy who'd you'd take home to meet mum and dad.


Heh, well Zevran is an easy guy to lust after. See, the problem with taking Zev home to meet your parents is that no matter how happy you were you'd spend the next 20 years trying to convince them he was actually a nice guy. The fact he jokingly hit on your dad probably didn't help matters.


Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. He'd be in bed with one of them when my back was turned! Image IPB "Yes, Zev, I know we agreed that this would be a understanding, open relationship, but with MY DAD?! Come on!" 

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Loria232 wrote...
 well i don't understand  obsession with Morrigan , i mean really ,such a b*****:lol:

Oh, that's easier to explain than you'd think.

It's not the looks so much, or even the voice (though both of those things do help, giving her an exotic flavor that many men like a lot). From what I've gathered, the reason many male players fall hard for Morrigan is because she has that hard, hard shell. She pushes the player away and wants nothing to do with love, but when that shell starts to crack he starts to think that maybe he can reach her. Maybe he can save her, bring out that vulnerable side she only rarely shows and which she would never even admit to.

There are certain fantasies that romances cater to, and Morrigan has hers just as Alistair does. It's never going to appeal to everyone, but it certainly doesn't happen by accident.

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I absolutely get the Morrigan thing and I'm a woman.

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David Gaider wrote...

Loria232 wrote...
 well i don't understand  obsession with Morrigan , i mean really ,such a b*****:lol:

Oh, that's easier to explain than you'd think.

It's not the looks so much, or even the voice (though both of those things do help, giving her an exotic flavor that many men like a lot). From what I've gathered, the reason many male players fall hard for Morrigan is because she has that hard, hard shell. She pushes the player away and wants nothing to do with love, but when that shell starts to crack he starts to think that maybe he can reach her. Maybe he can save her, bring out that vulnerable side she only rarely shows and which she would never even admit to.

There are certain fantasies that romances cater to, and Morrigan has hers just as Alistair does. It's never going to appeal to everyone, but it certainly doesn't happen by accident.


So true...

I definitely fit into that category of players who fell hard for her.

The big question ofc is whether we'll ever get the chance to find her again. Or maybe this whole romance between Morrigan and Warden ended with the battle of Denerim.

Those of us who played through Awakening and saw the epilogue slide for Morrigan.. we pray for the former to be true.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 09 juin 2010 - 03:13 .


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Falling for Morrigan definitely makes sense to me. She's more than meets the eye and it takes a little effort to get her to open up. And when she does you see a whole different side of the character. It was a side that I personally didn't like very much, and the fact remained that every single suggestion she gives you in terms of decision making is raving lunacy or random stupidity, but it does make for a character that is very appealing to some.