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[The Spamming Troll]

your level 60 adept killed saren easily because it was a level 60 adept with collosus armor, 2 medic exo mods, spectre X weapons, rail extensions, and shredder ammo. it wasnt because biotics were OP. it was because your level 60 character was OP.



ammo isnt limited in ME2 either. theres never an instance where your not more then a hope skip and a jump away from a tiny little flashing red cylinder. the point i was bringing up is more in relation to why i liked overheating weapons, rather then having an ammo count. you call that strategy. i call it making a sequel whose concept isnt anywhere near the original. they didnt even try to make it consistent. they simply tried to make it similar to every other game youve ever played.



these are more of my hopes for ME3. i wouldnt expect bioware to keep the infiltrators slo-mo if they added "infinite" ammo. you guys tie together downfalls to one particular thing, when its obvious a change would have to happen in order to balance whatever is so called unbalanced.



i dont mind the challenge bioware added to insanity. ill play it, and ill have fun doing so. i just dont appreciate it. maybe thats my fault, for beleiveing so much in ME1, and not getting that same feeling, or anything similar to it, out of ME2.



if shepard was intended to use weapons and abilities(which im assuming he means debuffs only) then why is an adept labeled "the class best at taking out enemies without the use of weapons?"



im angry because ME2 is not mass effect at all. its gears of space.

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

Sparroww wrote...



Niftu Cal ain't got nothin' on my Adept-Shep!



But
seriously the one little thing that I'd want for an Adept is the 30%
cooldown reduction a Sentinel can get with their evolved passive, an
Adept should be able to match a Sentinel cooldown-wise if both can
utilize biotics...should they not?

Adepts are arguably more power-centric than Sentinels, so yes, I agree.

Sentinels in general are pretty absurd at times, to be honest. Playing one on Insanity and I'm already starting to get bored.

The Spamming Troll wrote...



MASS EFFECT 2 IS THE WORST GAME OF ALL TIME AND IT RUINED THE INDUSTRY AND IT SHOT JFK.

I get it. You can stop now.

Modifié par Miss Yuna of Atlanta, 20 novembre 2010 - 10:20 .

[kstarler]

Miss Yuna of Atlanta wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...



MASS EFFECT 2 IS THE WORST GAME OF ALL TIME AND IT RUINED THE INDUSTRY AND IT SHOT JFK.

I get it. You can stop now.

This is the power of the adept! The ability to clarify!

Modifié par kstarler, 20 novembre 2010 - 10:32 .

[Irzhen]

Actually, was because biotics were OP. Since I could make Saren float the entire time, he didn't hit me, so i could have 0 shields and 1 hp, I would still have won.



Ammo in ME2 is limited in a sense you can't keep firing the same gun without coming out of cover to pick up clips. I said limited because it's something I see often on these foruns, people complaining about running out of ammo. Not saying that you did it, I personally never felt tight on ammo.



As for other games I have played, I don't like FPS and I never played gears of war either. I only know how it looks like because I search it on youtube after everyone comparing the 2 of them. TBH, Mass Effect is the only shooter I have played from the beginning to the end. I'm usually more to games like DA, SC, WoW. That means they pretty much failed at doing it similar to other games I played. Don't assume that because I like limited ammo I play a lot of shooters. That's also the reason because soldiers is the one class I have no intention of trying, it's pretty much a regular shooter with a matrix ability...



Being the best at taking down enemies without using guns doesn't mean the class is supposed to do it. It means the option is there, and it's easier than with other classes. People have done it, so it's possible.



I don't think this is going nowhere so I will end by saying that I dislike everything you want changed on ME3 for the adept. It would make the game worse, reduce replay value because the gameplay would become boring faster and probably reduce the sales. There are things that could be made better, but not the way you want them. IMO



Also, Niftu Cal rules, I want to replace Jacob with him xD

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

Irzhen wrote...

Also, Niftu Cal rules, I want to replace Jacob with him xD

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey...
I like Jacob. ;_;


Actually, he was one of my most-used squad mates as an Adept. Jacob, Samara, Thane, Garrus, and Zaeed were my top five.

[The Spamming Troll]

kstarler wrote...

Miss Yuna of Atlanta wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...



MASS EFFECT 2 IS THE WORST GAME OF ALL TIME AND IT RUINED THE INDUSTRY AND IT SHOT JFK.

I get it. You can stop now.

This is the power of the adept! The ability to clarify!

i guess you dont want people to have different opinions then you, eh?

Irzhen wrote...

Actually, was because biotics were OP.
Since I could make Saren float the entire time, he didn't hit me, so i
could have 0 shields and 1 hp, I would still have won.

Ammo in
ME2 is limited in a sense you can't keep firing the same gun without
coming out of cover to pick up clips. I said limited because it's
something I see often on these foruns, people complaining about running
out of ammo. Not saying that you did it, I personally never felt tight
on ammo.

As for other games I have played, I don't like FPS and I
never played gears of war either. I only know how it looks like because
I search it on youtube after everyone comparing the 2 of them. TBH,
Mass Effect is the only shooter I have played from the beginning to the
end. I'm usually more to games like DA, SC, WoW. That means they pretty
much failed at doing it similar to other games I played. Don't assume
that because I like limited ammo I play a lot of shooters. That's also
the reason because soldiers is the one class I have no intention of
trying, it's pretty much a regular shooter with a matrix ability...

Being
the best at taking down enemies without using guns doesn't mean the
class is supposed to do it. It means the option is there, and it's
easier than with other classes. People have done it, so it's possible.

I
don't think this is going nowhere so I will end by saying that I
dislike everything you want changed on ME3 for the adept. It would make
the game worse, reduce replay value because the gameplay would become
boring faster and probably reduce the sales. There are things that could
be made better, but not the way you want them. IMO

Also, Niftu Cal rules, I want to replace Jacob with him xD

yes it was biotics that allowed you to make saren float, but you could only make saren float with master abilities, with savant tools, and 12 points in bastion. meaning you were a fairly invested character.

i dont like FPS games either. i do like halo and bioshock, only becasue i enjoy sci-fi, or using cool abilities. you brought up something about being a GM killing something with one shot in an MMO, dont assume ive played any MMO game either. although i might get into WoW, just because ive been yelling "CATACLYSM" alot lately, and i dont even know why.

the option to take out enemies without the use of weapons only relies on one ability, that being singularity.

id also like to close by saying i wouldnt want your version of ME3 as well. i hardly want ME2s version, and yours is worse.

were all entitled to our opinions. just becasue you all enjoyed ME2 more then ME1 doesnt mean everyone else did. some people even feel let down by what ME has become because of ME2.

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

The Spamming Troll wrote...


yes it was biotics that allowed you to make saren float, but you could only make saren float with master abilities, with savant tools, and 12 points in bastion. meaning you were a fairly invested character.

Oh, is that a fact? So explain to me how my level thirty-five Adept with a Polaris bio-amp and six points in the class talent floated Saren to death on Insanity?

Please check your data before you spout off as if you know everything. Otherwise you're just wasting everybody else's time.

[kstarler]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

were all entitled to our opinions. just becasue you all enjoyed ME2 more then ME1 doesnt mean everyone else did. some people even feel let down by what ME has become because of ME2.

There is a thread for that, and it is not this one.

[Irzhen]

The Spamming Troll you should read my posts better, I didn't suggest any changes at all. All I did was say that somethings could be made better, but I didn't said what or how xD. As for opinions I agree, everyone can have one, and everyone else can disagree with it. And from what I can see from your point of view, I would advise you to not try any decent MMO, because classes are changing all the time. If you dislike the changes in the gameplay from adept from ME1 to ME2 I can assure you, you won't enjoy a MMO, the gameplay changes there can be much more drastic. Bah, I said I wouldn't answer lol.

Miss Yuna
I didn't like Jacob much. Something about him makes me don't want to take him to missions. That, said, if you like Jacob that much, I wouldn't mind replacing Jack with Niftu Cal instead of Jacob Less chance of the blowing up the ship too (ok, not that much )

Modifié par Irzhen, 20 novembre 2010 - 11:23 .

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

Irzhen wrote...


Miss Yuna
I didn't like Jacob much. Something about him makes me don't want to take him to missions. That, said, if you like Jacob that much, I wouldn't mind replacing Jack with Niftu Cal instead of Jacob Less chance of the blowing up the ship too (ok, not that much )

I like Jack even more! ;_;

If you want to replace somebody with Niftu Cal, make it...wait, I like everybody. Thane, I guess? He's definitely the lowest common denominator.

[Irzhen]

Thane it is, he's dying anyway, might as well giving him the last months off xD

BTW, I have given pull field a try on a few missions and so far its going pretty well, the increased duration also allows me to go closer to them (or them closer to me) and let me punch them. It's more fun than it sounds

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

Pull Field is one of my favorite things about the Adept class. I'm not very good at high-level Adept play(I often forget that Singularity exists), but Pull Field is the biggest reason why I've never had an issue with Husks.

[Sparrow44]

Miss Yuna of Atlanta wrote...

Pull Field is one of my favorite things about the Adept class. I'm not very good at high-level Adept play(I often forget that Singularity exists), but Pull Field is the biggest reason why I've never had an issue with Husks.

I generally take Jack and Samara with me on missions and max their Pull to field and with their passives maxed for bonus cooldown, watching 2/3 pull fields in action is hilarious.

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

Are they the ones with the lowest cooldown time for Pull?

[Sparrow44]

Yeah Samara and Jack's passive choice lets you choose between 25% weapon damage or 25% cooldown with the leftover choice remaining at 18%. Jacob whose Pull is handy for the beginning of the game gets no passive cooldown reduction, so Samara and Jack are faster Pull-bots in that sense.

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

Huh.

As an Adept, I don't think I'd need much more than Pull-bots for my squad mates. I'll be sure to bring Jack along more often on my Insanity run.

[sinosleep]

I love the Jack/Samara pull-bot combo on my caster sentinels but I cast so many singularities that having more than one pull-bot seems unnecessary on my adepts. I mean I tend to cast singularity first off, shoot off or strip defenses, then warp bomb right off that first singularity. Pull only really comes into play if there's already a dude walking around with no defenses.

[Sparrow44]

True, Jack/Samara Pull teams are more suitable for Sentinels than they are for Adepts though I still sometimes use em if I want another enemy Pull'd immediately after I cast it myself. But then Samara's Reave and Jack's (Squad) Warp Ammo give me more biotics in battle also...not just good for Pull I guess.

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

I wish I could hotkey more than eight powers. Usually I try to have all of my active powers on hotkeys along with medi-gel, and the squad mates get whatever's left. Problem is, with my build, there's only two slots left over after all that, so I can only really map two squad mate powers. Most squad mates I see have two active powers that I use. For my builds to work I basically have to bring the ones that only have one active power, like Grunt and Zaeed(screw Inferno Grenade).

[The Spamming Troll]

Miss Yuna of Atlanta wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...


yes it was biotics that allowed you to make saren float, but you could only make saren float with master abilities, with savant tools, and 12 points in bastion. meaning you were a fairly invested character.

Oh, is that a fact? So explain to me how my level thirty-five Adept with a Polaris bio-amp and six points in the class talent floated Saren to death on Insanity?

Please check your data before you spout off as if you know everything. Otherwise you're just wasting everybody else's time.

its not possible to perma-float saren without having a fast enough cooldown on lift. meaning you essentially need master lift, medic exos, a decent amp........ unless you were using kaiden and liaras lift as well.

im wasteing your preciouse time??? gimme a break.

kstarler wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

were
all entitled to our opinions. just becasue you all enjoyed ME2 more
then ME1 doesnt mean everyone else did. some people even feel let down
by what ME has become because of ME2.

There is a thread for that, and it is not this one.

you could really post that in every single topic in this forum, couldnt you?

Miss Yuna of Atlanta wrote...

I wish I could hotkey more
than eight powers.

im stuck with 3 hotkeys for the xbox. imagin my frustration!

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 21 novembre 2010 - 07:24 .

[Miss Yuna of Atlanta]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

im stuck with 3 hotkeys for the xbox. imagin my frustration!

I've never played Mass Effect 2 on the Xbox. I imagine it'd be one hell of a headache, though. I mean, I could see it being okay if you're a Soldier, maybe, but an Adept? Frakkin' forget it.

[Sparrow44]

I own ME2 on Xbox and I'm fine playing with a controller, of course only having 3 mapped powers for myself whereas PC get up to 8 of 'em is a massive difference but I usually do alright with what I've got as it just means I've gotta reassign powers to the shoulder buttons each mission depending on preference e.g: Singularity is always mapped for me, Pull I tend to keep on 'LB' the others are a choice between Warp, Throw, Stasis etc.. for 'RB'.



I think I do pretty good as an Adept on the 360. XD

[NICKjnp]

Miss Yuna of Atlanta wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

im stuck with 3 hotkeys for the xbox. imagin my frustration!

I've never played Mass Effect 2 on the Xbox. I imagine it'd be one hell of a headache, though. I mean, I could see it being okay if you're a Soldier, maybe, but an Adept? Frakkin' forget it.

It is fine playing at adept on the 360.  I have throw, warp and singulairty hot keyed.  The other powers I prefer to puase and use so that I can make sure I'm targeting the correct enemy when I use them.  So no problems playing on the 360.

[Ahglock]

I use shift pause frequently, I suspect if used a xbox controller I'd use it more. But I doubt it would be that big of a deal.



You know if they had made shockwave effective vs shields much of this would be solved.



1. Shockwave would not suck. And given it multiple pulses it kind of fits for being effective vs shields. Currently on a adept it is the ignored power, on the vanguard it is the power you put 2 levels into so you can get a real power.

2. The adept could be what the adept preview implied and be a pure power user even on insanity.(Yes you can on insanity now, but it is a pain)

[ryoldschool]

Ahglock wrote...

I use shift pause frequently, I suspect if used a xbox controller I'd use it more. But I doubt it would be that big of a deal.

You know if they had made shockwave effective vs shields much of this would be solved.

1. Shockwave would not suck. And given it multiple pulses it kind of fits for being effective vs shields. Currently on a adept it is the ignored power, on the vanguard it is the power you put 2 levels into so you can get a real power.
2. The adept could be what the adept preview implied and be a pure power user even on insanity.(Yes you can on insanity now, but it is a pain)

This has been mentioned a bunch of times, but the problem on xbox is using squad powers.  You can assign one power from each squad member to a "leg" of the d-pad.  However, pressing said d-pad is also a positioning command so you have to be motionless to use that.  This is what makes combos a problem without the powerwheel on xbox.