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[saxford]

I have play Mass Effect 1

It has Bring Down the Sky DLC.
It's great and free.

but, In new generation bioware game (DAO, ME2)

Why they are not have free and Good DLC ?

Firewalker is not bad, but does not match BDtS.

[David Gaider]

DAO had the Stone Prisoner available for free to people who bought the game. As to the rest of the DLC, it is not free because we are not a charity. DLC consists of extra products which are available for purchase by those who are looking to add to their DA experience. If it's not worth the money to you, then stick with the game you bought-- there's plenty of value there all on its own.

Modifié par David Gaider, 09 juin 2010 - 06:50 .

[saxford]

very clear.



Thank you David

[Master Shiori]

Because in order to make that DLC, you need to spend time, money and other resources, not to mention pay the people who are making it.



All of that are expenses that you need to cover in some way and charging $5 for a piece of DLC is a reasonable way to do it.



I'm sure people at Bioware love their job, but they need to make a living same as everyone else.

[Bruno Hslaw]

Now a cynical sort would suspect that this was a post generated by BW and answered by BW. Note the new post and the immediate (un Bioware response).

Some companies do this on their sites to make it look like they are answering a question from a fan rather than making a statement.

Good thing I am not at all cynical lol.

Modifié par Bruno Hslaw, 09 juin 2010 - 07:05 .

[saxford]

Oh, I have something that want to add.



You may think $5 or $7 in your country in cheap, but in my country they are not cheap.



Dragon Age : Origin that have been localizing in my country worth around $22 and DAO : Awakening worth around $18.



This is localizing price, but DLC does not have localizing price as the main game.

This is cause, Why DLC does not have localizing price as the main game.



If localizing price have implement, it'll be reasonable price for our gamer in my country.

[AntiChri5]

A brand new game costs 22$ where you live? Wow.



@OP: Bring down the sky was only free on the pc version of Mass Effect.

[Jestina]

I got DLC with my version...the digital DA or whatever it's called.



DLC is just something we have to put up with now. It's become another way for companies to milk as much money as possible from us.

[chiliztri]

Mr HimuraChan wrote...

$22 is not that much really. I paid the equivalent of $60 on mine

I payed almost $70 for the Collector's Edition of DAO, including tax

I wish I payed $22!

[Wicked 702]

Well, it's probably all relative. I doubt he's making 10, 15, 20 dollars an hour in his country.



Might actually be more expensive to him at $22, never know.

[Noilly Prat]

Yeah, I paid $5 for Bring Down the Sky. I didn't even know if was free in the PC version.



Also, Firewalker is free, assuming you didn't have to pay for the Cerberus Network. (Although, I'm not sure whether the Cerberus Network works the same way in every country.)

[TMZuk]

The PC version in Denmark, normal edition, is now 179 dkr, which comes to about 28 $ at the current exchange rate. When it came out I payed 299 dkr. or 48 $ for the same version. Both prices including tax. The price on games goes down fast these days.

5 $ is two pints of beer in a bar, so...

Modifié par TMZuk, 09 juin 2010 - 09:32 .

[Syracuse]

Jestina wrote...

I got DLC with my version...the digital DA or whatever it's called.

DLC is just something we have to put up with now. It's become another way for companies to milk as much money as possible from us.

I'm a little baffled at how a company releasing filler content to bridge the gap between games (content that costs them money to produce, and on which they see very low returns), can be greeted with such hostility. They're giving you something extra, something to keep the game interesting, but it's really just to "milk" you?
You don't *have* to buy the DLC, and as Bioware is not a charity I'm not sure why it would be suggested that they offer it gratis. All businesses are ultimately in the 'business' of making money; some just do it with more customer focus than others. 
We had the Age of Enlightenment, the Age of Reason...I guess we're now on to the Age of Entitlement.

[AmstradHero]

Let's say you have: Origins ($22), Awakening ($18), Warden's Keep ($7), Return to Ostagar ($7), Darkspawn Chronicles ($7).
You paid $61 for your "complete" Dragon Age experience. (I'm not going to include the gift packs)

I have Origins CE ($120 and not even with a tin case and cloth map because I unknowingly bought my copy from the "wrong chain"), Awakening ($50), Warden's Keep ($11).
I paid $181 for less Dragon Age than you have.

Any time anyone complains about the price that they are paying for games, think of your nearest friendly Australian. You can pretty much be guaranteed that they'll be paying more than you are. Also, games do not drop in price here over time like they do pretty much everywhere else.  We're still expected to pay full price for a game several years after its release

All that said, sometimes, like with Dragon Age, I can still say "it was TOTALLY worth it")

Modifié par AmstradHero, 09 juin 2010 - 10:06 .

[AntiChri5]

You really know how much it costs to produce dlc?





Most of the "milking" complaints come from the fact that you dont get nearly as much value in small dlc's. Ive always seen this as a moronic complaint, as it is more likely to make Bioware stop packing such an absurdly wonderful amount of contrmt imto their games.

[TheMadCat]

ny time anyone complains about the price that they are paying for games,
think of your nearest friendly Australian. You can pretty much be
guaranteed that they'll be paying more than you are. (Also, games do not drop in price here over time
like they do pretty much everywhere else.  We're still expected to pay
full price for a game several years after its release)

If I'm not mistaken you folks down under have a higher average income then us here in the States. So as they say, easy come easy go.

[saxford]

AmstradHero wrote...

Let's say you have: Origins ($22), Awakening ($18), Warden's Keep ($7), Return to Ostagar ($7), Darkspawn Chronicles ($7).
You paid $61 for your "complete" Dragon Age experience. (I'm not going to include the gift packs)

I have Origins CE ($120 and not even with a tin case and cloth map because I unknowingly bought my copy from the "wrong chain"), Awakening ($50), Warden's Keep ($11).
I paid $181 for less Dragon Age than you have.

Any time anyone complains about the price that they are paying for games, think of your nearest friendly Australian. You can pretty much be guaranteed that they'll be paying more than you are. Also, games do not drop in price here over time like they do pretty much everywhere else.  We're still expected to pay full price for a game several years after its release

All that said, sometimes, like with Dragon Age, I can still say "it was TOTALLY worth it")

My country is undevelop country.
Average income (including me) in my country pretty low to compare with USA or CANNADA.

My income is $3.5 per day. if i want to buy dlc that worth $7, I got to use 2 days money.

For developing country any dlc may worth hamberger or beer, but in my country it's worth 4-6 meal.

If bioware have implement localizing price that approtiate with specific country it will be good like main game.
such as EA store website that has localizing in my country (I buy from here).

but, If DLC income are go directly to Bioware (Not got to share revenue with EA), I am ready to pay for it.

[Rhys Cordelle]

Bruno Hslaw wrote...

Now a cynical sort would suspect that this was a post generated by BW and answered by BW. Note the new post and the immediate (un Bioware response).

Some companies do this on their sites to make it look like they are answering a question from a fan rather than making a statement.

Good thing I am not at all cynical lol.

Except the OP reads as if it's written by someone for whom english is not their first language.

[Jestina]

Syracuse wrote...
We had the Age of Enlightenment, the Age of Reason...I guess we're now on to the Age of Entitlement.

Well all that stuff used to come in the form of a game patch or at least a new edition...not a tidbit download you have to pay four times what it's worth. Companies like EA are really bad about bilking people through DLC.

[Bruno Hslaw]

Rhys Cordelle wrote...

Bruno Hslaw wrote...

Now a cynical sort would suspect that this was a post generated by BW and answered by BW. Note the new post and the immediate (un Bioware response).

Some companies do this on their sites to make it look like they are answering a question from a fan rather than making a statement.

Good thing I am not at all cynical lol.

Except the OP reads as if it's written by someone for whom english is not their first language.

Well obviously they would not want to appear Canadian lol. 

[1xs3thx1]

AmstradHero wrote...



Let's say you have: Origins ($22), Awakening ($18), Warden's Keep ($7), Return to Ostagar ($7), Darkspawn Chronicles ($7).

You paid $61 for your "complete" Dragon Age experience. (I'm not going to include the gift packs)



I have Origins CE ($120 and not even with a tin case and cloth map because I unknowingly bought my copy from the "wrong chain"), Awakening ($50), Warden's Keep ($11).

I paid $181 for less Dragon Age than you have.



Any time anyone complains about the price that they are paying for games, think of your nearest friendly Australian. You can pretty much be guaranteed that they'll be paying more than you are. Also, games do not drop in price here over time like they do pretty much everywhere else.  We're still expected
to pay full price for a game several years after its release



All that said, sometimes, like with Dragon Age, I can still say "it was TOTALLY worth it")

I am also Australian; Our games do go down in price.Have you noticed that Age of Empires III is now roughly $40 at EB games? That was over $100 when it was released and it has been several years after its release. To pick a BioWare game Mass Effect is now less than $50 and that was released three years ago. You seem to be referring to games like Modern Warfare 1 and 2 which do not seem to have gone down in price in the USA either.Halo 3 which was released 3 years ago is around $60 now. Halo Wars which was released last year is now less than $40.

You are saying you paid more for less Dragon Age than him but you have assumed that his dollar is the same as an Australian dollar.

According to his post it is not:

saxford wrote...



Oh, I have something that want to add.



You may think $5 or $7 in your country in cheap, but in my country they are not cheap.



Dragon Age : Origin that have been localizing in my country worth around $22 and DAO : Awakening worth around $18.



This is localizing price, but DLC does not have localizing price as the main game.

This is cause, Why DLC does not have localizing price as the main game.



If localizing price have implement, it'll be reasonable price for our gamer in
my country.

 

In his country they have localized the price of retail games such as Dragon Age but they have not localized online DLC such as Warden's Keep.  Therefore our regular Dragon Age game that costs $99 is the same as his $22. That means that 1 Australian dollar is worth approximately 4.5 of his dollars. Since they have not localized the DLC he is actually paying approximately 44.5 Australian dollars for Warden's Keep. Now I shall do the Mathematics for you and compare your total cost for Dragon Age Collector's Edition, Awakenings and Warden's Keep and Saxford's total cost in Australian dollars.

Your cost:

Dragon Age: Origins CE: $120

Awakenings: $50

Warden's Keep: $11

Total Australian cost: $161

 Saxford's cost in his currency:

Dragon Age: Origins: $22

Awakenings: $18

Warden's Keep: $11

Total cost in his currency: $51

Converting to Australian currency via multiplying by 4.5:

229.5

Total cost in Australian currency: $229.5

 

Therefore he paid $229.5 and you paid $161 which has a range of $68.5.

 

He paid approximately $68.5 more than you for the same amount of Dragon Age.

So before you start accusing people of complaining about prices perhaps you should read the entire thread and think about your accusations.

Modifié par 1xs3thx1, 10 juin 2010 - 02:15 .

[ZeRux]

I don't have a problem paying for DLC if it's worth the money. But Feastday Gifts and Pranks is nothing more than a ripoff, as there are dozens of user-generated mods more worthy of my money than that.

Seriously, such a small plugin should be either released for free or not released at all. BioWare not a charity? We know, we payed for the game already.

[Kail Ashton]

David Gaider wrote...

DAO had the Stone Prisoner available for free to people who bought the game. As to the rest of the DLC, it is not free because we are not a charity. DLC consists of extra products which are available for purchase by those who are looking to add to their DA experience. If it's not worth the money to you, then stick with the game you bought-- there's plenty of value there all on its own.

Why are people still commenting? David (ninja)Gaider pretty much headbutted this topic into submission

[Abiz_]

DLC not free great you still are working on the game then. How about the 60 dollar game(DA:O) that wasn't free either? 3 months since you last patched it. You guys broke more then you fixed. How about you know start supporting your product in a meaningful way...in a timely fashion...

Modifié par Abiz_, 10 juin 2010 - 01:06 .