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[Pacifien]

Just_mike wrote...
in ME2: Why does Sole Survivor Shepard not remember Cerberus nor bring the bit about almost getting eaten by thresher maws?

Sole Survivor Shepard likes to serve his revenge cold. He stays silent about any ill will he might hold Cerberus. He uses as much of Cerberus's resources as possible to get the job done. Then when the Illusive Man asks him to do one thing (keep the Collector Base), Shepard blows it up and steals Normandy 2.0.

[Pacifien]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Sole Survivor Shepard likes to serve his revenge cold. He stays silent about any ill will he might hold Cerberus. He uses as much of Cerberus's resources as possible to get the job done. Then when the Illusive Man asks him to do one thing (keep the Collector Base), Shepard blows it up, irregardless of whether it's a tactically sound thing to do, simply because it pisses the Illusive Man off royally.  Then Shep steals the Normandy 2.0.

*fixed*

*refixed*
Because if the Illusive Man had asked for Shepard to destroy the base, I imagine Sole Survivor Sweet Revenge Shepard would have then kept it. Stupid Illusive Man never heard of reverse psychology...

Modifié par Pacifien, 23 juin 2010 - 06:49 .

[CroGamer002]

Debunking troll.
Uploading part 4 and 5, finishing part 6.

[Christmas Ape]

Mesina2 wrote...

Debunking troll.
Uploading part 4 and 5, finishing part 6.

Holy hell...is that the original audio?
I keep waiting for a remark to be punctuated with "Mitsy! Don't forget we've dinner with the Cavanaughs at eight!"
The most affected "place in the Hamptons" accent I've ever heard.

[didymos1120]

Pacifien wrote...

Who was running Chora's Den after you took out Fist?

It was a crime syndicate.  Typically, they don't lack for pragmatic, ambitious and very unsentimental folk.  Fist getting run off/killed was just an opportunity. But really?  It just reverting to normal was a convenience so you could finish a couple sidequests (and possibly screw Sha'ira).

Why were his goons placed all around the place instead of the more defensible choke point at the door?

They were still getting ready for you when you showed up.  Or they were idiots.  But actually: for gameplay.   One singularity and fight is basically over on most difficulties.  Hell, even a moderately upgraded lift or throw would pretty much end it instantly.  Not to mention sabotage, overload, grenades, carnage....

OK, you know what?  Given all that, maybe those guys weren't so dumb after all.

Who places gun turrets in their office?

Fist. People on Noveria. Also: game designers. At least in the imaginary ones they design anyway. It often gives players something to do in RPGs with shooter-based combat when said combat takes place in offices.

Wouldn't a trap door in the floor be more of a laugh than gun turrets?

Uh...no?  Also: he tried like 9 times, but the f*cking keepers kept undoing it. And say what you will, but gun turrets are definitely more original than villain-operated trap doors.  

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 juin 2010 - 10:07 .

[didymos1120]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Or!

Why does Fist's voice change when he starts attacking you?

That always bothered me, actually more of a LOL moment

See also: Chellick and Chorban mid-conversation. I think it happens one or two other times. Basically, it looks like dialogue got added, for whatever reason, at the last minute and they just grabbed the nearest VA and said "If it's even remotely close, that's good enough. OK go."

[Christmas Ape]

didymos1120 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Or!

Why does Fist's voice change when he starts attacking you?

That always bothered me, actually more of a LOL moment

See also: Chellick and Chorban mid-conversation. I think it happens one or two other times. Basically, it looks like dialogue got added, for whatever reason, at the last minute and they just grabbed the nearest VA and said "If it's even remotely close, that's good enough. OK go."

Oh god, Chellick, the Turian Of A Thousand Voices...

[Onyx Jaguar]

Yeah that one always caught me off guard

[CroGamer002]

Debunking retarded Mass Effect 2 plot analysis

Modifié par Mesina2, 23 juin 2010 - 12:59 .

[Ecael]

didymos1120 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Or!

Why does Fist's voice change when he starts attacking you?

That always bothered me, actually more of a LOL moment

See also: Chellick and Chorban mid-conversation. I think it happens one or two other times. Basically, it looks like dialogue got added, for whatever reason, at the last minute and they just grabbed the nearest VA and said "If it's even remotely close, that's good enough. OK go."

Chorban voice change
Chellick voice change
Kaidan tone change
Tali's Split Personality

JOKER'S WAITING FOR YOU ON THE BRIDGE.

Modifié par Ecael, 23 juin 2010 - 01:32 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

These guys are good at making things make no sense.

[NICKjnp]

Ecael wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Or!

Why does Fist's voice change when he starts attacking you?

That always bothered me, actually more of a LOL moment

See also: Chellick and Chorban mid-conversation. I think it happens one or two other times. Basically, it looks like dialogue got added, for whatever reason, at the last minute and they just grabbed the nearest VA and said "If it's even remotely close, that's good enough. OK go."

Chorban voice change
Chellick voice change
Kaidan tone change
Tali's Split Personality

JOKER'S WAITING FOR YOU ON THE BRIDGE.

I knew that Quarian was a crazy ****!

[Onyx Jaguar]

I mean lol, was Joker's Waiting For You On The Bridge really a necessary bit of dialogue?



And I always wondered what exactly was going on with Chellick's voice...

[Fizzeler]

ME1: Why does the Rachni Queen use some half-dead Asari over Matriarch Benezia, wouldn't it be easier and quicker to use the latter?



ME2: Why is Shepard offer to send David to Grissom Academy, it is not like Cerberus has NEVER snuck someone out of there?

[didymos1120]

Fizzeler wrote...

ME1: Why does the Rachni Queen use some half-dead Asari over Matriarch Benezia, wouldn't it be easier and quicker to use the latter?

Precisely because she was half-dead, as opposed to Benezia, who was entirely dead.  The queen even tells you that the Asari is fading fast and when she's dead and done, so is the converation. I.e., the queen isn't Rachni-Jesus, and therefore lacks the ability to raise the dead.

ME2: Why is Shepard offer to send David to Grissom Academy, it is not like Cerberus has NEVER snuck someone out of there?

Shep also makes it clear that if big bro comes after David, Shep will kill him.  You really don't think that he'll be any more forgiving if some other Cerberus operative takes him, do you? 

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 juin 2010 - 03:32 .

[Ecael]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I mean lol, was Joker's Waiting For You On The Bridge really a necessary bit of dialogue?

And I always wondered what exactly was going on with Chellick's voice...

Also, I think Zaeed in ME2 would often start using his Lord Harrowmont voice...

[Pacifien]

didymos1120 wrote...

Fizzeler wrote...
ME2: Why is Shepard offer to send David to Grissom Academy, it is not like Cerberus has NEVER snuck someone out of there?

Shep also makes it clear that if big bro comes after David, Shep will kill him.  You really don't think that he'll be any more forgiving if some other Cerberus operative takes him, do you? 

Shepard seems to be a bit in the dark that Cerberus has infiltrated Grissom Academy before. Cerberus might not attempt to take David back, but that doesn't mean they're going to leave him alone.

[NICKjnp]

Pacifien wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Fizzeler wrote...
ME2: Why is Shepard offer to send David to Grissom Academy, it is not like Cerberus has NEVER snuck someone out of there?

Shep also makes it clear that if big bro comes after David, Shep will kill him.  You really don't think that he'll be any more forgiving if some other Cerberus operative takes him, do you? 

Shepard seems to be a bit in the dark that Cerberus has infiltrated Grissom Academy before. Cerberus might not attempt to take David back, but that doesn't mean they're going to leave him alone.

I don't know why Cerberus would want to do anything but take him... it's not like they want to create an autistic army or technical savants like they did with Gillian Grayson biotic research.

[didymos1120]

Pacifien wrote...
Shepard seems to be a bit in the dark that Cerberus has infiltrated Grissom Academy before. Cerberus might not attempt to take David back, but that doesn't mean they're going to leave him alone.

Two things:

1. If you do Jacks loyalty mission, you can get direct confirmation of them messing with the Ascension project. Guess where that project is headquartered.  So, a Shep with that knowledge is going to be on alert for Cerberus interference.

2. It doesn't matter if Shep's in the dark anyway. Shep knows full well that they've infilitrated Alliance projects. Hell, once upon a time, they were part of the Alliance. A Shep with that knowledge is going to be on alert for Cerberus interference.


Obviously, if David gets removed from Grissom Academy for any other reason than him being successfully rehabilitated and being placed in a supervised living situation or whatever,  and suddenly becomes extremely hard to find, Shep will immediately think "Cerberus" and start making trouble. So that option's just plain out.

But, given either of those two things, Shep (provided you're not roleplaying a 'complete moron' version) isn't just going to assume Cerberus won't try to pull something sneakier than that and that David is somehow beyond their reach. 

And, neither of those really matters anyway.  Consider: how in the hell do you advance a 'Control the geth with an autistic who can talk to them' line of research on an Alliance station in Citadel space?  It's not like you can enroll disguised geth or strap David into another of those "Worst UI ever" thingies without getting noticed. And, from the Cerberus POV, it's not like David's good for anything else.  Better to leave him be, which mollifies Shepard.

So, regardless, Grissom Academy is a good choice for David.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 juin 2010 - 05:04 .

[didymos1120]

Ecael wrote...
Also, I think Zaeed in ME2 would often start using his Lord Harrowmont voice...

What's more, the normal Zaeed voice is almost identical to his Murdock, Mayor of Redcliffe voice.

[Fizzeler]

NICKjnp wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Fizzeler wrote...
ME2: Why is Shepard offer to send David to Grissom Academy, it is not like Cerberus has NEVER snuck someone out of there?

Shep also makes it clear that if big bro comes after David, Shep will kill him.  You really don't think that he'll be any more forgiving if some other Cerberus operative takes him, do you? 

Shepard seems to be a bit in the dark that Cerberus has infiltrated Grissom Academy before. Cerberus might not attempt to take David back, but that doesn't mean they're going to leave him alone.

I don't know why Cerberus would want to do anything but take him... it's not like they want to create an autistic army or technical savants like they did with Gillian Grayson biotic research.

They would use him to communicate with and control the Geth that was the idea behind the project anyway
My main plot hole concern was not him sneaking out, but being left alone as pacifen pointed out he is not going to be left alone

Modifié par Fizzeler, 23 juin 2010 - 05:07 .

[didymos1120]

Fizzeler wrote...
They would use him to communicate with and control the Geth that was the idea behind the project anyway
My main plot hole concern was not him sneaking out, but being left alone as pacifen pointed out he is not going to be left alone

Again: they accomplish this on a mostly human populated station in Citadel space how?

Maybe if they borrow some of Matriarch Benezia's magic crates....um, no: still not gonna work.

So what other use do they have for him?

None. 

What happens if they f*ck with him, for any reason?

Shep gets annoyed.

Conclusion: He'll be left alone.

Modifié par didymos1120, 23 juin 2010 - 05:16 .

[Fizzeler]

didymos1120 wrote...

Fizzeler wrote...
They would use him to communicate with and control the Geth that was the idea behind the project anyway
My main plot hole concern was not him sneaking out, but being left alone as pacifen pointed out he is not going to be left alone

Again: they accomplish this on a mostly human populated station in Citadel space how? Maybe if they borrow some of Matriarch Benezia's magic crates....

Mmm, no: still not gonna work.

Hmm you have a point then again they could just feed him Geth commands from recordings and prepare for his release, then they kidnap him again and use the new knowledge to control the Geth

[Ecael]

Pacifien wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Fizzeler wrote...
ME2: Why is Shepard offer to send David to Grissom Academy, it is not like Cerberus has NEVER snuck someone out of there?

Shep also makes it clear that if big bro comes after David, Shep will kill him.  You really don't think that he'll be any more forgiving if some other Cerberus operative takes him, do you? 

Shepard seems to be a bit in the dark that Cerberus has infiltrated Grissom Academy before. Cerberus might not attempt to take David back, but that doesn't mean they're going to leave him alone.

I'm going to continue assuming that some part of the Alliance is still connected to Cerberus, and many operatives on either side simply don't know it.