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[Big I]

Mir5 wrote...
The problem is that earth's imho pretty irrelevant element at that point. What was again the ratio between humans on earth and off-earth?

Earth has 11.2 billion people, with about anouther quarter million on space stations in orbit. In 2183 Terra Nova (2nd human extrasolar colony) had 4.4 million and Eden Prime (a "paradise") had 3.7 million.

I don't know what happened in ME2, but they said a world like Anhur (mixed batarian and human Terminus colony, dominated by humans) had 208.6 million even though it was colonised after Terra Nova. Other human Terminus colonies had equally ludicrous numbers, but then in the Kasumi DLC they had Bekenstein with a population of 5.4 million.

I think that whoever wrote the entries for the Terminus colonies screwed up the numbers, so whenever I see "million" on a human Terminus colony I mentally change it to "thousand". Its either that or accept that colonises in a region of space with pirates, slavers and merc bands are more attractive than somewhere like Eden Prime.

Based on the above, it's clear that the vast majority of humans live on Earth. In order for that not to be true, there would have to be 3000 or more colonies the size of Terra Nova established in the last 30 years, with most of those people being emigrants from Earth.

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...
- If a normal human would fire a
Claymore shotgun then his arm would end up broken or shattered. Yet
during the game we can see two asari that fire from this weapon. Captain
Enyala and the asari mercenary right before facing Nassane. How come?

Also, why don't we pick those weapons up once they're dead, either for ourselves or the squad, or at least as a trophy? I really wanted Warden Kuril's Revenant.

[Dean_the_Young]

Lookingglass, numbers across the board in Mass Effect's story are so jilted as to be largely useless. Population figures don't balance, military ship accounts, even the timelines.

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

applehug wrote...

Heres 2

How come a security camera or something didn't record Saren on Eden Prime?

How come Shepard didn't show the recordings of the collectors on Freedom's Progress to the council?

Wow.. I for real just yelled "OMG he's right!" out loud rofl 

[Wolfknight581]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

- Why didn't Legion simply warn his people about the Heretic virus?

Actually it's the other way around. "Legion's Geth" found out about the virus and he was sent to the reaper to try to find reaper data so he can understand and find the virus. Legion is basically the geth's equivalent of a spectre.

- If a normal human would fire a Claymore shotgun then his arm would end up broken or shattered. Yet during the game we can see two asari that fire from this weapon. Captain Enyala and the asari mercenary right before facing Nassane. How come?

On the description of Shepard's Krogan Shotgun, or the Geth Sniper Rifle, they handwave it by saying it's "modified." I suppose the others had modified shotguns. The in-universe gun market probably sells species specific models of the guns.

- Why were there so many human prisoners on Purgatory and no alien ones?

The same reason you don't see Turian women. They made the human male. But to include other species they'd have to make the human female/asari, the salarian, the turian, krogan, etc. This requires all sorts of time devoted to concept art, environment design, more motion capture, all for a little small sequence that'll NEVER be seen again outside the level. So they just went with human males then swapped out the faces. This saves them time to work on Shepard's epic dancing skills with the mocap guys.

- Why is the debris field of the Normandy crash site so intact and close together?

I was going to go on a rant about how it's supposed to work. But then I realized it blew up above the atmosphere, acceptable break from reality I guess?

Modifié par Wolfknight581, 14 octobre 2010 - 02:40 .

[DoomMech]

36: Both the reaper and the Normandy were in freefall. all objects will fall at the same speed. As for why nobody started floating until they jumped, I'm going with magnetic boots.

39: All the attacks Soverign executed were on human centric areas; human colony, human reasearch teams, human Citadel victims. Saren was probably a special case, getting implanted with more advanced, one of a kind technology to turn him into an uber-Hopper Zombie Husk post mortem.

[Wolfknight581]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Wolfknight581 wrote...
Actually it's the other way around. "Legion's Geth" found out about the virus and he was sent to the reaper to try to find reaper data so he can understand and find the virus. Legion is basically the geth's equivalent of a spectre.

Can you provide a link?

On the description of Shepard's Krogan Shotgun, or the Geth Sniper Rifle, they handwave it by saying it's "modified." I suppose the others had modified shotguns. The in-universe gun market probably sells species specific models of the guns.

It is said that they are modified to be carried and not modified to be fired by humans.

The same reason you don't see Turian women. They made the human male. But to include other species they'd have to make the human female/asari, the salarian, the turian, krogan, etc. This requires all sorts of time devoted to concept art, environment design, more motion capture, all for a little small sequence that'll NEVER be seen again outside the level. So they just went with human males then swapped out the faces. This saves them time to work on Shepard's epic dancing skills with the mocap guys.

Did you understand the question I asked? Do you realize that they could have simply used MALE aliens? There are lots of MALE aliens in both ME games.

Where I got my answer for Legion. Skip to about 4:40 when Shepard asks about the Loyalty Mission. Legion was sent to the Reaper because the Geth already KNEW about the virus. He wasn't sent their because he was looking for Shepard because Legion lost his only lead finding him at Alchera and had other priorities afterwards. My little comment about Legion as Geth Spectre was a bit of a stretch.

I'll concede the point about the Claymore because I can't go back into Me2 at the moment and look it up, plus it sounds right.

Have you SEEN the other male aliens, they have different sillouhettes. The Salarians and the Turians don't wear the same clothes. I'm comparing it to the Turian women because we know that they are there but they simply are not shown. I'm saying it's a design issue and they haven't had time or the priorities to make a small alteration to a costume for the other species.  Also if you want the potential sociological reasons, there could be a human majority of prisoners. The Turian warden could potentially hate humans like Saren does and picks them up more frequently. And the humans already have a violent reputation and potential criminals do commit crimes because of the "oh everybody percieves me that way anyways I might as well reap the benefits."

Addendum: They could get away with drell prisoners but in the original design philosophy, they wanted Thane to be the first drell you saw.

[Felene]

Is it possible for a Moderator to sticky this thread just so those new plot hole/plot discussion thread don't pop up too often?

[Universal_Soldier28]

I got a question for ME2 and maybe it's been answered but..after the "attack" and Shepard tells either Liara or Ashley, depending on your relationship from ME1, to get everyone to escape pods, but you don't see that many people die and yet when you recover the dog tags, there are 20 of them....where did their bodies go and how could their be 20 dead crew members? Even on the ship when Shep goes to save joker, you don't see that many bodies, and most of which you see people escaping the ship..then what happens to Shep's Dog Tags? Liara gives it to him later on...if she got a hold of it, and she got it from Admiral Hackett, how did he get it and yet when you recover 20 dog tags, his is not found?



And how come we never see female krogans, except one time when you go on Mordin's loyalty mission, you see the dead krogan female....and what about taurian females, or salarian females?

[Aeowyn]

Am I the only one who has seen the krogan female where the Shaman is standing? You talk to her, she looks just like a normal krogan but her voice is more feminine. Or is that just a Krogan male with a female voice?

[UpDownLeftRight]

That's not a female. That's a young male. That's why his voice is a little brighter compared to the other Krogans.

[ReluctantMind]

That is the representative for the female clans, so is very unlikely to be male. Female Krogan just look a lot like male Krogan.

[Katamariguy]

There are two reasons for most:



1.gameplay



2.because they were stupid

[UpDownLeftRight]

ReluctantMind wrote...

That is the representative for the female clans, so is very unlikely to be male. Female Krogan just look a lot like male Krogan.

Not really. That is a male. Urdnot Wreav(Wrex's brother) mentions it.

[HalfTangible]

4) It didn't survive completely. Several pieces of his armor were still intact, so I'm guessing it protected him from the fall for the most part, so instead of being rubbed into dust, he burned to death. Or suffocated. If you remember, Jacob and some images confirm that shepard just a charred husk when they found him.

18) Because the Normandy wasn't off-world. It was off of the GROUND, but it was still in the atmosphere.

22) To make it seem more like a real crash, and there is the fact they didn't expect Shepard to escape alive. A bigger question would be why wasn't there MORE tech lying around. A spacefaring race whose standard equipment is considered a heavy weapon, you'd think there'd be something stronger there.

26) They also dropped it off in other places, and krogan go back to their homeworld for breeding. Mordin actually says this, if i recall.

29) It was a plant that planted itself back when the city was still whole.

33) You don't need an embassy to visit the presidium. The Citadel is basically a massive multicultural space station/city, right?

35) The high probability that the ruins would collapse and Saren would survive, i assume. Besides, the Mako drop was already underway and would've required a course correction to be fired, and the drop was risky enough already.

42) They went through a seperate route that the swarms didn't have access to in such vast numbers.

Modifié par HalfTangible, 16 novembre 2010 - 11:18 .

[onelifecrisis]

Vasir can use charge to move in light speed and jump on buildings! Why didn’t she use this power in order to escape from Shepard and Liara in the first place?

Haha! Very good, I didn't think of that.

Why were there so many human prisoners on Purgatory and no alien ones?

You do see one Batarian prisoner on Purgatory.

[SimonTheFrog]

Why were there so many human prisoners on Purgatory and no alien ones?

Cause we were sent to the human wing to get Jack. 

[Da_Lion_Man]

So why is that Derelict reaper (the one with the Reaper IFF) floating around in space? Why did no one notice it? And why did the Reapers leave it like that? I thought they were masters at cleaning up the results of their chaos? How could they make such a big mistake?

[belwin]

Da_Lion_Man wrote...

So why is that Derelict reaper (the one with the Reaper IFF) floating around in space? Why did no one notice it? And why did the Reapers leave it like that? I thought they were masters at cleaning up the results of their chaos? How could they make such a big mistake?

it was hidden,
right near/almost inside a brown dwarf.

not the first place you'd look for something, really.
the only thing that kept it there was the mass effect fields, but even those are hard to track with the huge wind speeds and interference Joker talks about.
The reapers were prolly too busy wiping out the civilization that pwn'd the reaper to begin with, then lost the derelict ship.

[LorDC]

belwin wrote...
t was hidden,
right near/almost inside a brown dwarf.

not the first place you'd look for something, really.
the only thing that kept it there was the mass effect fields, but even those are hard to track with the huge wind speeds and interference Joker talks about.
The reapers were prolly too busy wiping out the civilization that pwn'd the reaper to begin with, then lost the derelict ship.

It was there for 37.000.000 years. Assuming that cycle of extinction is 50.000 years they were "too busy" 740 times. Kinda hard to believe.

[HalfTangible]

LorDC wrote...

belwin wrote...
t was hidden,
right near/almost inside a brown dwarf.

not the first place you'd look for something, really.
the only thing that kept it there was the mass effect fields, but even those are hard to track with the huge wind speeds and interference Joker talks about.
The reapers were prolly too busy wiping out the civilization that pwn'd the reaper to begin with, then lost the derelict ship.

It was there for 37.000.000 years. Assuming that cycle of extinction is 50.000 years they were "too busy" 740 times. Kinda hard to believe.

Perhaps it seemed irrelevant to them, or they never really noticed?

Vasir can use charge to move in light speed and jump on buildings! Why didn’t she use this power in order to escape from Shepard and Liara in the first place?

Because she wanted to avoid drawing attention to herself.

[CroGamer002]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Why is Zaeed aiming with his blind eye?

A) Bioware was lazy

It would look weird if he was firing gun with left hand

[LorDC]

HalfTangible wrote...
Perhaps it seemed irrelevant to them, or they never really noticed?

If they never noticed it means that they either tend to commit suicides from time to time or sometimes just fly away with no apparent reasons. Doesn't make much more sense. And if it seemed irrelevant to them it is even more strange considering how methodically they wipe out all traces of their activity.

Modifié par LorDC, 17 novembre 2010 - 08:33 .