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Nu-Nu wrote...
And a quick update on the progress of my cousland & Nate sketch before I go to bed.   I was going to resketch it in pencil because it's tough sketching in photoshop but I've gone straight to the colouring instead.  I'm impaitent!!!
http://nu-nu.deviant...gress-167322250


That's beautiful!So much emotion. <3

Maybe if
the PC isn't married to Al...but adultery of a Queen is treason. Thats
what got Anne's head removed from her shoulders.


Okay,serious question.Am I the only person who didn't romance Alistair with my F!Cousland?
I don't mean this is a personal attack on anyone by any means,but I'm not too fond of Queen Cousland.

...I'll go hide,now.

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Lady Catastrophe wrote...

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Nu-Nu wrote...
And a quick update on the progress of my cousland & Nate sketch before I go to bed.   I was going to resketch it in pencil because it's tough sketching in photoshop but I've gone straight to the colouring instead.  I'm impaitent!!!
http://nu-nu.deviant...gress-167322250


That's beautiful!So much emotion. <3

Maybe if
the PC isn't married to Al...but adultery of a Queen is treason. Thats
what got Anne's head removed from her shoulders.


Okay,serious question.Am I the only person who didn't romance Alistair with my F!Cousland?
I don't mean this is a personal attack on anyone by any means,but I'm not too fond of Queen Cousland.

...I'll go hide,now.


I have trouble not romancing Alistair on ANY female PC i have. He has so many triggers for the romance and some of them aren't obvious.  I learned long ago to just enjoy the ride.  You don't have to make your FCousland queen.  I plan on my next run through to romance Ser Gilmore on my Cousland.  (If I can keep my pixil paws off AListair long enough).Image IPB

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sylvanaerie wrote...
I have trouble not romancing Alistair on ANY female PC i have. He has so many triggers for the romance and some of them aren't obvious.  I learned long ago to just enjoy the ride.  You don't have to make your FCousland queen.  I plan on my next run through to romance Ser Gilmore on my Cousland.  (If I can keep my pixil paws off AListair long enough).Image IPB


Haha,I do agree it's a little difficult not to romance Alistair (even by accident) with the amount of romance triggers.
I just think the whole Ali/Queen Cousland thing has been so overdone and so over exaggerated (particularly by Mary-Sue PC's) that the whole romance has become somewhat of a cliché.

My Cousland girl is more suited to Nate than Alistair anyway. :innocent:

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Lady Catastrophe wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
I have trouble not romancing Alistair on ANY female PC i have. He has so many triggers for the romance and some of them aren't obvious.  I learned long ago to just enjoy the ride.  You don't have to make your FCousland queen.  I plan on my next run through to romance Ser Gilmore on my Cousland.  (If I can keep my pixil paws off AListair long enough).Image IPB


Haha,I do agree it's a little difficult not to romance Alistair (even by accident) with the amount of romance triggers.
I just think the whole Ali/Queen Cousland thing has been so overdone and so over exaggerated (particularly by Mary-Sue PC's) that the whole romance has become somewhat of a cliché.

My Cousland girl is more suited to Nate than Alistair anyway. :innocent:


My last run through i actually contemplated leaving Anora on the throne and just being GWs with my Cousland and Al.  Then I heard that hideous speech and my head exploded...Image IPBPlus I remembered he only would show up in Awakenings if I made him king.

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Then I heard that hideous speech and my head exploded...


Ugh.That speech made me grimace.

Anyway.
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It's hard not to romance Alistair so I like to think Nat and Cousland get together on the games where Ali and her break up. And after seeing her so happy with Nate, seeing how they overcame the reasons they shouldn't be together, he regrets his decisions.



If they could overcome something so dark then maybe he and Cousland can overcome their own problems of being together. He tries to woo her back and nearly wins her back but then she slaps him, even though there's still some emotional baggage she has moved on. And he watches her walk away.



Then she seeks comfort in Nate's arms.



Alistair definitly has to be involved somehow in the whole Nate/Cousland thing. Makes it more interesting.

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Nu-Nu wrote...

It's hard not to romance Alistair so I like to think Nat and Cousland get together on the games where Ali and her break up. And after seeing her so happy with Nate, seeing how they overcame the reasons they shouldn't be together, he regrets his decisions.

If they could overcome something so dark then maybe he and Cousland can overcome their own problems of being together. He tries to woo her back and nearly wins her back but then she slaps him, even though there's still some emotional baggage she has moved on. And he watches her walk away.

Then she seeks comfort in Nate's arms.

Alistair definitly has to be involved somehow in the whole Nate/Cousland thing. Makes it more interesting.


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I agree Alistair needs to be involved in some way....adds more drama-rama!

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And as I mentioned in the Alistair thread,a romance with Nate would be appropriately named 'Howe you doin'?' :lol:

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Nu-Nu wrote...
It's hard not to romance Alistair so I like to think Nat and Cousland get together on the games where Ali and her break up. And after seeing her so happy with Nate, seeing how they overcame the reasons they shouldn't be together, he regrets his decisions.

If they could overcome something so dark then maybe he and Cousland can overcome their own problems of being together. He tries to woo her back and nearly wins her back but then she slaps him, even though there's still some emotional baggage she has moved on. And he watches her walk away.

Then she seeks comfort in Nate's arms.

Alistair definitly has to be involved somehow in the whole Nate/Cousland thing. Makes it more interesting.

I don't know.

A properly done Nate/Cousland romance should be interesting enough, adding Alistair pining over Miss So-awesome-no-one-can-ever-forget-her somehow just dimishes it. I prefer to think that if they break up they break up and move on ... both of them. :blush:

Alistair is the friggin' king, he broke up with her for the sake of the country. Why would he change his opinion now? Why should he pine endlessly over his ex-girlfriend? He's busy ruling a country. Real people would act awkward, a bit of irrational jealousy might be involved, but Alistair is not the type to try to get Cousland to break up with someone she's just fallen in love with. 

Edit: :o Thinking about it I'd really love to read a Howe/Cousland fic that concentrates on their relationship and how it evolves - preferably without making Alistair look like an idiot.

Modifié par klarabella, 12 juin 2010 - 03:17 .


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Mel_Redux wrote...
Been thinking about this a while, have you? Image IPB

I agree Alistair needs to be involved in some way....adds more drama-rama!


Lol yeah.  It's the pairings that could have been that are going through my head right now. 


klarabella wrote...

I don't know.

A properly done Nate/Cousland romance should be interesting enough, adding Alistair pining over Miss So-awesome-no-one-can-ever-forget-her somehow just dimishes it. I prefer to think that if they break up they break up and move on ... both of them. Image IPB

Alistair is the friggin' king, he broke up with her for the sake of the country. Why would he change his opinion now? Why should he pine endlessly over his ex-girlfriend? He's busy ruling a country. Real people would act awkward, a bit of irrational jealousy might be involved, but Alistair is not the type to try to get Cousland to break up with someone she's just fallen in love with. 

Edit: Image IPB Thinking about it I'd really love to read a Howe/Cousland fic that concentrates on their relationship and how it evolves - preferably without making Alistair look like an idiot.



I think maybe a harden Alistair will be more likely to try to get the girl back.  You can convince him to keep the relationship going so I don't see it too much of a stretch to see him try to get the girl back.  Maybe he hasn't found the right woman to procreate with and she comes along and is a nice distraction from his duties.

Maybe a soften Alistair will leave them alone...but that be no fun lol.

Edit - I see Alistair's involvement as a tool to strengthen Nate's and Cousland's relationship.

Modifié par Nu-Nu, 12 juin 2010 - 03:56 .


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Lady Catastrophe wrote...

And as I mentioned in the Alistair thread,a romance with Nate would be appropriately named 'Howe you doin'?' :lol:


WHere have I heard that one before?

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klarabella wrote...

Nu-Nu wrote...
It's hard not to romance Alistair so I like to think Nat and Cousland get together on the games where Ali and her break up. And after seeing her so happy with Nate, seeing how they overcame the reasons they shouldn't be together, he regrets his decisions.

If they could overcome something so dark then maybe he and Cousland can overcome their own problems of being together. He tries to woo her back and nearly wins her back but then she slaps him, even though there's still some emotional baggage she has moved on. And he watches her walk away.

Then she seeks comfort in Nate's arms.

Alistair definitly has to be involved somehow in the whole Nate/Cousland thing. Makes it more interesting.

I don't know.

A properly done Nate/Cousland romance should be interesting enough, adding Alistair pining over Miss So-awesome-no-one-can-ever-forget-her somehow just dimishes it. I prefer to think that if they break up they break up and move on ... both of them. :blush:

Alistair is the friggin' king, he broke up with her for the sake of the country. Why would he change his opinion now? Why should he pine endlessly over his ex-girlfriend? He's busy ruling a country. Real people would act awkward, a bit of irrational jealousy might be involved, but Alistair is not the type to try to get Cousland to break up with someone she's just fallen in love with. 

Edit: :o Thinking about it I'd really love to read a Howe/Cousland fic that concentrates on their relationship and how it evolves - preferably without making Alistair look like an idiot.


Alistair's involvement doesn't necessarily have to portray him as a beaten puppy who would do anything to get his girl back because she is Queen Perfect Awesomesauce.  He breaks up with her for the good of the country, it doesn't mean he stops loving her, nor does she stop loving him.  There are still feelings there on both sides, and Cousland could start to develop feelings for Nathaniel while still being in lvoe with Alistair.

I agree with you in that Alistair wouldn't suddenly change his mind and do anything to get his girl back.  That doesn't mean he would be happy about a developing relationship between her and Nathaniel, especially becuase he's a Howe. 

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WHere have I heard that one before?

Le gasp! My secret is out!

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I agree with you in that
Alistair wouldn't suddenly change his mind and do anything to get his
girl back.  That doesn't mean he would be happy about a developing
relationship between her and Nathaniel, especially becuase he's a Howe. 


Screw Alistair's reaction to Cousland/Nate,can you imagine what Fergus' reaction would be to his little sister falling for a Howe? He'd switch to big brother mode instantly and quite possibly try to kick Nate's ass.

I'd pay to see a fight made of such awesome-ness.

Modifié par Lady Catastrophe, 12 juin 2010 - 05:33 .


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See I can't really see Alistair getting all up in the PC's face if they broke off their relationship prior to the Ending Battle. He really has no say anymore in who she sees and frankly if he is king, he has a lot more important things to do than worry about his former girl friend's taste in men.

A Queen Cousland (if they marry for love) shouldn't be messing around behind Alistair's back anyway. Sexual tension or not, to have her jump Nate's bones makes her come off as ****ty/unsympathetic. And if you make Alistair a cuckold/tool to justify the attraction it comes off as the worst kind of OOC crap I hate to read from FFs.

So the best FF IMO that would come from this would be PC is free agent (even if she and Al had shared feelings in the past). She has enough issues with the whole "your daddy killed my daddy" and vice versa with Nate to fill up a few chapters of a fic.

Why retread angst and repackage as something new? Go in a new direction. What about the whole "WC with Subordinate Warden" angle. Or exploring the discovery that Nate isn't the douche his dad was (even if PC's original inclination was to hang the poor bastard). Or help him deal with some of his issues with the past (PC had a warm and loving family as opposed to the hell that Nate went through as a kid).

There are plenty of story elements there without going for the old boyfriend is jealous or adultery angle.

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Lady Catastrophe wrote...

Mel_Redux wrote...
I agree with you in that Alistair wouldn't suddenly change his mind and do anything to get his girl back.  That doesn't mean he would be happy about a developing relationship between her and Nathaniel, especially becuase he's a Howe.

Screw Alistair's reaction to Cousland/Nate,can you imagine what Fergus' reaction would be to his little sister falling for a Howe? He'd switch to big brother mode instantly and quite possibly try to kick Nate's ass.

I'd pay to see a fight made of such awesome-ness.

:o OHHHHHH! There's a thought. Doesn't Nathaniel rescue him some years later if he survives Awakening? :D
I always wondered what Fergus would think of Howe. Funny though, I completely almost forgot this little detail for my own story which starts with Fergus and Nate planning things and stuff. :lol:

I'm glad I started lurking here.

Edit: I guess, after the rescue Fergus and Nate are buddies.

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klarabella wrote...

:o OHHHHHH! There's a thought. Doesn't Nathaniel rescue him some years later? :D I always wondered what Fergus would think of Howe. Funny though, I completely forgot this little detail for my own story which starts with Fergus and Nate planning things and stuff. :lol:

I'm glad I started lurking here.

Especially since Oghren makes a comment about Fergus saying Nate wouldn't have the stones to show up in Ferelden again.  And he's been stripped of title, so she'd be dallying with a commoner.  Though a Warden Cousland is already out of the family succession.

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I've only just remembered now that Nate says 'Does this please you?' when he unlocks chests and doors.I'll ask this again.Why in the name of all that is good and honourable was he not romanceable?

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Or help him deal with some of his issues with the past (PC had a warm and loving family as opposed to the hell that Nate went through as a kid).


I feel really sorry for the poor guy.I know a lot of people who played the HN origin just went ahead and had him hanged due to what his Dad did,but they're really missing out on a really well written character.

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I guess, after the rescue Fergus and Nate are buddies.


I assume they'd be buddies too.Well...not so much 'buddies' exactly,but friendly enough to be civil in eachother's company.I imagine Fergus still wouldn't be happy about Nate bangin' his sister,though.Forgive the crude term. :P

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Lady Catastrophe wrote...

klarabella wrote...
I guess, after the rescue Fergus and Nate are buddies.

I assume they'd be buddies too.Well...not so much 'buddies' exactly,but friendly enough to be civil in eachother's company.I imagine Fergus still wouldn't be happy about Nate bangin' his sister,though.Forgive the crude term. :P

This!

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klarabella wrote...

Lady Catastrophe wrote...

klarabella wrote...
I guess, after the rescue Fergus and Nate are buddies.

I assume they'd be buddies too.Well...not so much 'buddies' exactly,but friendly enough to be civil in eachother's company.I imagine Fergus still wouldn't be happy about Nate bangin' his sister,though.Forgive the crude term. :P

This!


yes THIS is the guy I would imagine getting all up into Nate's face about being with his sister, NOT Alistair.  Fergus would have kittens when he heard about it.Image IPB

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yes THIS is the guy I would imagine getting all up into Nate's face about being with his sister, NOT Alistair.  Fergus would have kittens when he heard about it.Image IPB


Oh,the drama! It's times like this I wish I was a writer.This is just begging to be written,me thinks.

Oh look,screenshot.
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Cover yourself,Nate! We can nearly see up your manskirt!

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Oooooh, so hot... can't... look... away...

Hi all!  Just saw this thread and holy cow!  One day old and already eight pages long!  I'm here to express my love for Nathaniel!  Please be in the sequel!  Please be in the sequel! Image IPB 

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Oooooh, so hot... can't... look... away...

Hi all!  Just saw this thread and holy cow!  One day old and already eight pages long!  I'm here to express my love for Nathaniel!  Please be in the sequel!  Please be in the sequel! Image IPB 


Welcome to the thread! We have cookies and squeeing! :wizard:

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Lady Catastrophe wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...
yes THIS is the guy I would imagine getting all up into Nate's face about being with his sister, NOT Alistair.  Fergus would have kittens when he heard about it.Image IPB


Oh,the drama! It's times like this I wish I was a writer.This is just begging to be written,me thinks.

Oh look,screenshot.
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Cover yourself,Nate! We can nearly see up your manskirt!


I'm actually starting to see something like this...but I wanna finish my Teagan fic first then do one other short one before i commence with a Nate/Cousland one

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Welcome to the thread! We have cookies and squeeing! :wizard:


Awesome.  Thanks!  Though I'm not much of a squee-er, I'll try...  Squee!  How was that?

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sylvanaerie wrote...
I'm actually starting to see something like this...but I wanna finish my Teagan fic first then do one other short one before i commence with a Nate/Cousland one


Much love,Syl.

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Awesome. 
Thanks!  Though I'm not much of a squee-er, I'll try...  Squee!  How
was that?


You'll get there eventually. :lol:

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