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[masseffectfan00]

America was founded not too long ago compared with other areas in the
world. From there they gained power really quick and is now they're the
most powerful country in the world. The rest of the world is jealous
of America just like every race is jealous of the humans in ME series.
Discuss.

[InvaderErl]

America, (the free and independent nation) was founded in the late 18th century and did not become a superpower until after WWII so its not quite the same thing thing.

[kglaser]

I am not convinced every race is jealous of humans. For example, the volus ambassador in ME1 (Din Korlak, sp?) is resentful that the humans have such priveleges, being so short a time in the galactic arena. But is he jealous, or just purely resentful?

[Azint]

Analogical arguements are poor arguements.

[Khayness]

The rest of the world is just jealous because they don't know anything about the scandinavian states.
And as for ME, the humans got different agendas, The Alliance, Cerberus, we don't know if Earth approves of the current situation, there can be a friction between Earth and the Alliance.

Modifié par Khayness, 11 juin 2010 - 03:28 .

[Ascendant_Justice]

Lol, expect flaming from non-Americans.

I don't find it particularly analagous to America. Plenty of other nations on Earth have risen to power in relatively short amounts of time. I do find that ME leans to the 'humans are special' side, however, though part of that is because of the improbable and seemingly shortened timeline.

[ObserverStatus]

I always thought that Spectres were symbolic of America's foreign poilcy.

[Vhira]

bobobo878 wrote...

I always thought that Spectres were symbolic of America's foreign poilcy.

Precisely the opposite.  It would have been more prudent if the US sent a Spectre to take out the rogue terrorist leader, but they decided to send the fleet in and start a war with the Terminus systems.

Modifié par Vhira, 11 juin 2010 - 03:34 .

[Cain_Novaburn]

I see the similarites but they are very basic ones that could be related to anything.

kglaser wrote...

I am not convinced every race is jealous of humans. For example, the volus ambassador in ME1 (Din Korlak, sp?) is resentful that the humans have such priveleges, being so short a time in the galactic arena. But is he jealous, or just purely resentful?

I'm also not convinced that every nation is jelous of America lol

[Inquisitor Recon]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
The Council must be equivalent to the U.N. then. Inept and useless.

Nah, even with the idiot "Ah yes..." turian they are still 1000x more competent than the UN.

[Mercedes-Benz]

ReconTeam wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
The Council must be equivalent to the U.N. then. Inept and useless.

Nah, even with the idiot "Ah yes..." turian they are still 1000x more competent than the UN.

Yeah, but I am hoping they are just pretending to be stupid.

[SSV Enterprise]

Similar idea, but in Mass Effect it's taken to an extreme. For the U.S., we started with the same level of technology Europeans had, but with lower population and infrastructure than the Europeans. Luckily, the US became independent right at the dawn of the industrial revolution, and were able to reap all of the benefits. After a couple hundred years, we had surpassed our European mother nations in technology, population, industry, and military. This was also due in no small part to the World Wars, which ravaged European nations. The US did send a lot of troops who died in those wars, but we entered into both wars late, and neither wars saw battle on the main continental United States.

On the other hand, the Systems Alliance has only had mass effect technology for not even half a century, yet already has technology and industrial might comparable to spacefaring superpowers which have been using mass effect technology for millenia, the last major war being a millenium ago.

It's not really the same.

Modifié par SSV Enterprise, 11 juin 2010 - 04:01 .

[drunken pyromaniac]

Oh, my poor head.

[Vhira]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

The Council must be equivalent to the U.N. then. Inept and useless.

...and the Turian Councilor "dismissing all claims" with his permanent power of veto.

[kraidy1117]

Shepard is Canadian.

[Vhira]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Shepard is Canadian.

Mark Meer says aboot. QED

[ObserverStatus]

Vhira wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

I always thought that Spectres were symbolic of America's foreign poilcy.

Precisely the opposite.  It would have been more prudent if the US sent a Spectre to take out the rogue terrorist leader, but they decided to send the fleet in and start a war with the Terminus systems.

These are the reasons i've thought of so far.
1. Spectres are above the law.  Likewise, America is far too powerful to be held responsible by international law.
2. Spectres are often accused of meddling in matters that do not affect the council, such as Shepard's involvement on Noveria.
3. Spectres view themselves as guardians of galactic stability.

[FoFoZem]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

The Council must be equivalent to the U.N. then. Inept and useless.

I love this so much. I hate the UN

[Inquisitor Recon]

kraidy1117 wrote...
Shepard is Canadian.

[FoFoZem]

SSV Enterprise wrote...

*snip*
On the other hand, the Systems Alliance has only had mass effect technology for not even half a decade, yet already has technology and industrial might comparable to spacefaring superpowers which have been using mass effect technology for millenia, the last major war being a millenium ago.

It's not really the same.

Do you mean a century? Because it was 9 years, nearly a decade, before humans even came in contact with another species after they discovered the ruins on Mars.

[ObserverStatus]

I prefer the Council to the UN, as it exclusive, and does not add as much legitimacy to petty tyrants.

[SSV Enterprise]

FoFoZem wrote...

SSV Enterprise wrote...

*snip*
On the other hand, the Systems Alliance has only had mass effect technology for not even half a decade, yet already has technology and industrial might comparable to spacefaring superpowers which have been using mass effect technology for millenia, the last major war being a millenium ago.

It's not really the same.

Do you mean a century? Because it was 9 years, nearly a decade, before humans even came in contact with another species after they discovered the ruins on Mars.

Yes, that's what I meant.  Thanks for catching that.  Fixed.

Modifié par SSV Enterprise, 11 juin 2010 - 04:03 .

[Eskimo9000]

Ya, I'm sure everyone it the world is jealous of your horrible economy, massive debt and oil covered beaches.