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[nitefyre410]

Yannkee wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

hmmm thats a rather seasoned gentlemen there. Those are not  bad pics it shows  her everyday look with out all the photoshop airbrushing. Why would  you need to airbrush her i don't know but this hollywood the be the stupid 

The pics are from her upcoming movie The Killer Elite with Jason Statham and Robert De Niro.

  


She is doing a movie with my boys  De NIro and Statham that is marked  on the must see list.    But really i  seriously about my airbrush comment she does not need to be airbirushed I hate when Mags do that now I can always tell  and like the more natural pics better.  

Hmmm wonder how tall she  is... *off to research* 

[nitefyre410]

OH SH*T she is the same Sun Sign as me we are both Leo's. LOL no wonder I could always read Miranda so damn well, it comes through in character.

[jtav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
I like it too, but I don't like the conversation before.

Yes. I don't really dislike the Renegade dialogue, but "you give your father too much credit" is so much better - it's what I wanted to tell her all the time since she brought her father up. I wish we could get both this and the kiss. On the other side, I don't like the "admiration" part - too cheesy for my taste. Can't have the best of both worlds, it seems.

The line is cheesy, but I allow every romance one howler to avoid being a hypocrite for liking Liara's romance despite the "swept up in a storm" line. The kiss doesn't do much for me, but there's nothing really wrong with it. If I play Paragon wiith "no promises" the romance is pretty much gold for me through the hug. After that...well, we've been through this several times in the last six months. Loudly.

[Prudii Aden]

jtav wrote...
The line is cheesy, but I allow every romance one howler to avoid being a hypocrite for liking Liara's romance despite the "swept up in a storm" line. The kiss doesn't do much for me, but there's nothing really wrong with it. If I play Paragon wiith "no promises" the romance is pretty much gold for me through the hug. After that...well, we've been through this several times in the last six months. Loudly.

Yep, that we have. Some of us prefer to see her flustered and get the "Stop smiling dammit" line, others prefer to admire her body. Pretty much all of us go for the hug.

[Prudii Aden]

Hate to break it to you nitefyre, but a Libra/Leo partnership works a lot better.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Iedra and I are going to argue about interspecies romance forever, aren't we? My attitude is that it's already canon, so who am I to complain or worry about it overmuch when writing? The game is full of complete nonsense anyway. It's a bit like complaining about ER's lack of medical accuracy.

It's not only that it's complete nonsense. That's bad enough, but for me, the main appeal of SF has always been that it can show how strange the universe is if you leave the perspective of the average human mind behind. It can challenge you to adjust your perspective, for distances are almost incomprehensible, realistic time frames for all sorts of activities are measured in decades, centuries or even millenia, and biology is comprehensible to a scientist, but otherwise highly variable, indicating that, for instance, the value systems we build our societies on are by no means universal. SF brings home to you all those uncomfortable facts we humans tend to ignore in our everyday life. Now, what the creators of the ME universe did is exactly the opposite: they introduced technologies that contract and fix time so that travelling to another star system is like travelling to a neighboring city today, and set up biology in a way that our preconceived notions of both romance and ethics apply cross-species (with the exception of the geth). It goes so far that Tali refers to herself as a woman in one romance conversation. Well, she's no woman. She's a female quarian. For me, things like this reduce the appeal of the ME universe considerably.

From that viewpoint: what I would have liked to see is an interspecies romance that is actually a challenge to the human perspective, with an alien who's recognizably non-human in both mindset and appearance, so that a romance is not just a matter of "dem hips" or suchlike, but attraction needs to find another carrier. Or a romance where you're going to be surprised in a rather unpleasant way, for instance if the "asari mind control" hypothesis turned out to be true, and in reality the asari looked really strange. OK, that would create a whole bag of other plausbility problems, but you get the idea...

(Yeah, it seems we're going to argue about this forever )

Modifié par Ieldra2, 20 juillet 2010 - 02:13 .

[nitefyre410]

Prudii Aden wrote...

Hate to break it to you nitefyre, but a Libra/Leo partnership works a lot better.

  


Dude you and I can go  pages and pages. 

Actually if  we want to be  correct  Leo/ Sag relationships work the best the Leo/Aries. 
 
after that is Leo/ Gemini then Leo/ Libra.   

Leo/leo works but its a lot of ego stroking but  ****  i can stroke her ego all night if need be...  

[jtav]

Or in my case, I'll nod and say "he's absolutely right, but that makes my only viable romance option as a FemShep Jacob." Cue willing suspension of disbelief. It just doesn't bother me that much. I finally saw Tali's romance scene on Youtube. I don't know if I like it better than Miranda's or not.



Can I have pics or gifs or something to cheer me up? I'm attempting to re-install Planescape: Torment and getting it to run on my computer is always good for raising my blood pressure.

[Caihn]

Enjoy 

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Can I have pics or gifs or something to cheer me up? I'm attempting to re-install Planescape: Torment and getting it to run on my computer is always good for raising my blood pressure.

Did you get the Widescreen mod? I have PS:T running at 1920x1200. It has a few awkward aspects you need to get used to, but works very well as a rule. I also recommend PS:T Unfinished business and the PS:T Tweak Pack.

And now for some pictures as requested:

[jtav]

I did indeed. Downloading some UI fixes right now. I don't know what I'd do without G3 or Spellhold studios. I love my Infinity Engine games. Long after I've stopped playing ME2, I'll be coming back to these. Unfortunately, the discs are starting to wear out. I always have an urge to start an "in my day..." lecture when people talk about ME being so much more an RPG than ME2. I'm too young for those lectures.



Thanks for the pics, both of you.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I always have an urge to start an "in my day..." lecture when people talk about ME being so much more an RPG than ME2. I'm too young for those lectures.

I'm old enough I guess, having played my first game on electronic media in 1979. While as a rule I'm not the nostalgic sort and like to twist the tails of the "Back then it was all better" faction, PS:T is an exception. All this talk of meaningful decisions and consequences in the ME games - back in 1999, PS:T had it all. I wish they'd remake it with today's graphics, with all dialogues voiced, and with all dream sequences/scene details shown instead of told.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 20 juillet 2010 - 05:25 .

[jtav]

I'm not usually that nostalgic either. It's limited strictly to BG and PST. And a remake such as you describe would put me in RPG heaven. I like the graphics and full VA of ME etc but I like the experience of the older games more.



For those that are familiar wit both games, am I alone in thinking Grace and Miranda would get along very well?

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...
For those that are familiar wit both games, am I alone in thinking Grace and Miranda would get along very well?

Hmmmmm...Grace is about experiencing all the universe has to offer right?  She also lacks that drive and ruthlessness that Miranda has but when you are an immortal demon woman that is probably natural.

[jtav]

Valmy! Long time no see.



It's been a long time since I played the game (hence the reinstall) but I remember Grace as having a certain reserve and coolness Miranda would appreciate. Not to mention her intelligence.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

Valmy! Long time no see.

It's been a long time since I played the game (hence the reinstall) but I remember Grace as having a certain reserve and coolness Miranda would appreciate. Not to mention her intelligence.

She does have a certain sophistication Miranda would appreciate indeed.  Their goals and means are too different I think...in the sense that Grace was only interested in the experience of being alive and Miranda must have a purpose to hers.

Hey jtav yeah I just got done with my final final playthrough of ME1 and when I am not distracted by my pregnant wife or summer school or work I am playing ME2 again so I am getting back into love of all things Miranda.  This is not my final final of ME2 though since all the DLC is not out yet.

[jtav]

I'm not sure when my final game of ME will be. I want to finish my current Renegade MaleShep and two versions of my "canon" FemShep, one with the Thane romance and one without. The MaleShep is causing me some mild concern because he's a violent Renegade who I hope dies in ME3. He's sort who would hand over the evidence at Tali's trial or have Renegade sex with Jack. Miranda deserves better, but he's also not the sort to stay faithful either.

[Caihn]

Valmy wrote...
This is not my final final of ME2 though since all the DLC is not out yet.

I have to finish my canon playthrough, and after that, only a very good DLC (or maybe an alternate outfit for Miri) could make me start a new playthrough.

Modifié par Yannkee, 20 juillet 2010 - 08:14 .

[Andysilv]

Yannkee wrote...

Valmy wrote...
This is not my final final of ME2 though since all the DLC is not out yet.

I have to finish my canon playthrough, and after that, only a very good DLC (or maybe an alternate outfit for Miri) could make me start a new playthrough.

I still have about 9 playthroughs that I need to finish ready for ME3. I need to stay single on 4/5 of them too which is always a tough playthrough. Just feels so lonely and sad.

[Caihn]

andysilv87 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

Valmy wrote...
This is not my final final of ME2 though since all the DLC is not out yet.

I have to finish my canon playthrough, and after that, only a very good DLC (or maybe an alternate outfit for Miri) could make me start a new playthrough.

I still have about 9 playthroughs that I need to finish ready for ME3. I need to stay single on 4/5 of them too which is always a tough playthrough. Just feels so lonely and sad.

All my Sheps fell under Miri's spell 

Modifié par Yannkee, 20 juillet 2010 - 08:38 .

[ElectricZ]

Ieldra2 wrote...

From that viewpoint: what I would have liked to see is an interspecies romance that is actually a challenge to the human perspective, with an alien who's recognizably non-human in both mindset and appearance, so that a romance is not just a matter of "dem hips" or suchlike, but attraction needs to find another carrier. Or a romance where you're going to be surprised in a rather unpleasant way, for instance if the "asari mind control" hypothesis turned out to be true, and in reality the asari looked really strange. OK, that would create a whole bag of other plausbility problems, but you get the idea...

(Yeah, it seems we're going to argue about this forever )

Of course it's not just limited to romance, but any kind of interaction. Most aliens in SF are humanoids with funny shaped heads. It just naturally makes it easier for us to empathize with them as people... Just look at Avatar, where every animal on the planet has six limbs but the Na'vi are basically tall thin blue people with really big eyes. Hard sci-fi where the aliens are, well, alien just isn't as popular.

I can only think of two mainstream examples off the top of my head. One was a Star Trek TOS episode called Metamorphosis where a shipwrecked human was saved by an energy being who kept him alive for companionship... And when he found out the energy being actually had feelings of love for him, he was at first disgusted and agreed to help destroy the creature so he could escape. But it's an example of two completely different species coming to love one another even though they are so fundamentally different. (Though it does cheese up the whole deal by eventually allowing the energy creature to take human form. Cop out!)

Another good example is Solaris. The book can be a bit of a chore, and both versions of the movie can be offputting, but it also delves into humans trying to relate to an incomprehensible alien being. Are they studying us? Trying to communicate with us? Or do the interactions with humans simply create the replicas of their loved ones as a byproduct? None of those questions are ever answered, and even the replicas produced doesn't know why they're there. The remake of the movie deals explicitly with a human who falls in love with one of the replicas. But the story centers around humans trying to make contact with an entity that is so different that understanding each other just might be impossible.

Of course all that might be too much to expect for what's really an interactive sci-fi/action movie, but I'd never put it past Bioware to give it a shot.

[jtav]

I'm still working out the mental ranking of maleShep LI options Miranda is either my second or third favorite across both games and fourth or fifth romance overall Just her romance. She's still my favorite character.

[Caihn]

jtav wrote...

I'm still working out the mental ranking of maleShep LI options Miranda is either my second or third favorite across both games and fourth or fifth romance overall Just her romance. She's still my favorite character.

Favorite character and favorite romance for me.

[Valmy]

andysilv87 wrote...
I still have about 9 playthroughs that I need to finish ready for ME3. I need to stay single on 4/5 of them too which is always a tough playthrough. Just feels so lonely and sad.

I did for my final final ME1 run.  I killed off Ash though to do it which was sad

[Valmy]

Yannkee wrote...

Valmy wrote...
This is not my final final of ME2 though since all the DLC is not out yet.

I have to finish my canon playthrough, and after that, only a very good DLC (or maybe an alternate outfit for Miri) could make me start a new playthrough.

Nah the final final playthrough must go through all content.  Even Pinnacle Station.

By the way that freaking DLC ruined my hardcore runthrough.  Trying to do the Timed and Hunt settings on Hardcore is impossible....well maybe not impossible but really really really really hard.