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[Ieldra]

Jebel Krong wrote...
i'm hoping for me3 that you can actually develop the relationship you had with either the me1 LI, or me2 LI as you would in real-life, rather than just go through the "courtship" stage again... trouble is i don't see them doing both, and since it has to be open enough for new players... hm. the only thing they could do is "lock" the previous romances for those that have them (and then you can properly develop from there) and have 1 or 2 new LIs you can pursue.

Some books start with things in the past having happened. Why not have new players select at the start which kind of character their Shepard had been attracted to in the past, and then set their game up accordingly. It's the third part of a trilogy, damn it. *Some* concessions have to be made.

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...
i'm hoping for me3 that you can actually develop the relationship you had with either the me1 LI, or me2 LI as you would in real-life, rather than just go through the "courtship" stage again... trouble is i don't see them doing both, and since it has to be open enough for new players... hm. the only thing they could do is "lock" the previous romances for those that have them (and then you can properly develop from there) and have 1 or 2 new LIs you can pursue.

Some books start with things in the past having happened. Why not have new players select at the start which kind of character their Shepard had been attracted to in the past, and then set their game up accordingly. It's the third part of a trilogy, damn it. *Some* concessions have to be made.

Don't expect much Ieldra, get your sledge hammer ready.

[Ieldra]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...
i'm hoping for me3 that you can actually develop the relationship you had with either the me1 LI, or me2 LI as you would in real-life, rather than just go through the "courtship" stage again... trouble is i don't see them doing both, and since it has to be open enough for new players... hm. the only thing they could do is "lock" the previous romances for those that have them (and then you can properly develop from there) and have 1 or 2 new LIs you can pursue.

Some books start with things in the past having happened. Why not have new players select at the start which kind of character their Shepard had been attracted to in the past, and then set their game up accordingly. It's the third part of a trilogy, damn it. *Some* concessions have to be made.

Don't expect much Ieldra, get your sledge hammer ready.

Actually, I do expect much from Bioware. They made continuing romances in BG2 (for all story considerations, TOB was a new game), I do expect the same for the final chapter of the ME story. The first games did very well commercially, so they should use some of that money to good effect. If they don't - well, there's always the verbal sledgehammer.

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...
i'm hoping for me3 that you can actually develop the relationship you had with either the me1 LI, or me2 LI as you would in real-life, rather than just go through the "courtship" stage again... trouble is i don't see them doing both, and since it has to be open enough for new players... hm. the only thing they could do is "lock" the previous romances for those that have them (and then you can properly develop from there) and have 1 or 2 new LIs you can pursue.

Some books start with things in the past having happened. Why not have new players select at the start which kind of character their Shepard had been attracted to in the past, and then set their game up accordingly. It's the third part of a trilogy, damn it. *Some* concessions have to be made.

Don't expect much Ieldra, get your sledge hammer ready.

Actually, I do expect much from Bioware. They made continuing romances in BG2 (for all story considerations, TOB was a new game), I do expect the same for the final chapter of the ME story. The first games did very well commercially, so they should use some of that money to good effect. If they don't - well, there's always the verbal sledgehammer.

My optimistic side died, I hope miri is back and her romance is handled well, but I really doubt it.

[Ieldra]

Well. If they won't do it satisfactorily, here's my response.

[Ieldra]

And some more Miranda:

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Well. If they won't do it satisfactorily, here's my response.

You are nicer then me, I would turn Bioware into a Reaper

[Ieldra]

Browsing my archive, I just unearthed one of my old favorites (there seem to be quite a few of those):

[jtav]

All these pics are making my Talimance playthrough very hard to contunue. Have pity on a poor fanfic writer trying to do some research.   Every time I talk to Miranda in-game, I get the urge to do it despite my feelings on the actual content. Damn it, Bioware!

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
All these pics are making my Talimance playthrough very hard to contunue. Have pity on a poor fanfic writer trying to do some research.   Every time I talk to Miranda in-game, I get the urge to do it despite my feelings on the actual content. Damn it, Bioware!

*grins evilly*

....all right. I promise not to post any Miranda pictures for.....12 hours?

[jtav]

I guess I'd better hurry, then. And then I'm going back to FemShep and staying with her until ME3.

[SgtPotato]

You know, it's a shame that Rathias and Megwithamouth had never finish their third fanfic, Death in Circles.

[jtav]

Judging from others' reactions, it seems TIM practically kicks puppies in Retribution. I'm not getting the book, so I can't confirm personally. I wonder what that means for ME3 and Miranda? Perhaps she ends up resigning regardless?

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

Judging from others' reactions, it seems TIM practically kicks puppies in Retribution. I'm not getting the book, so I can't confirm personally. I wonder what that means for ME3 and Miranda? Perhaps she ends up resigning regardless?

Miranda and the other crew are not mentioned at all, and Shepard went off the grid. TIM acts like a moron and this is the second time a project with Reaper tech backfired, I am happy I did't give him the base*wait's for Ieldra to argue *

Modifié par kraidy1117, 29 juillet 2010 - 02:14 .

[Ieldra]

kraidy1117 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Judging from others' reactions, it seems TIM practically kicks puppies in Retribution. I'm not getting the book, so I can't confirm personally. I wonder what that means for ME3 and Miranda? Perhaps she ends up resigning regardless?

Miranda and the other crew are not mentioned at all, and Shepard went off the grid. TIM acts like a moron and this is the second time a project with Reaper tech backfired, I am happy I did't give him the base*wait's for Ieldra to argue *

It's easy to argue from foreknowledge and meta-knowledge. That doesn't change how I think of the situation when I encounter it. Also, another reason for Miranda to take over.

But I have to admit I'm very disappointed if this is correct (haven't got Retribution yet), though it doesn't come unexpected.  

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Judging from others' reactions, it seems TIM practically kicks puppies in Retribution. I'm not getting the book, so I can't confirm personally. I wonder what that means for ME3 and Miranda? Perhaps she ends up resigning regardless?

Miranda and the other crew are not mentioned at all, and Shepard went off the grid. TIM acts like a moron and this is the second time a project with Reaper tech backfired, I am happy I did't give him the base*wait's for Ieldra to argue *

It's easy to argue from foreknowledge and meta-knowledge. That doesn't change how I think of the situation when I encounter it. Also, another reason for Miranda to take over.

But I have to admit I'm very disappointed if this is correct (haven't got Retribution yet), though it doesn't come unexpected.  

Let's just say Cerberus screwed up again but this itme endanered everyone and got ALOT of people killed, not just Cerberus personal, inocents. I am happy my blew that base to hell, if TIM screwed up with some nanotechnology he got from one of the Collectors operations, I am scared to see what he would do with the base

[Ieldra]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Judging from others' reactions, it seems TIM practically kicks puppies in Retribution. I'm not getting the book, so I can't confirm personally. I wonder what that means for ME3 and Miranda? Perhaps she ends up resigning regardless?

Miranda and the other crew are not mentioned at all, and Shepard went off the grid. TIM acts like a moron and this is the second time a project with Reaper tech backfired, I am happy I did't give him the base*wait's for Ieldra to argue *

It's easy to argue from foreknowledge and meta-knowledge. That doesn't change how I think of the situation when I encounter it. Also, another reason for Miranda to take over.

But I have to admit I'm very disappointed if this is correct (haven't got Retribution yet), though it doesn't come unexpected.  

Let's just say Cerberus screwed up again but this itme endanered everyone and got ALOT of people killed, not just Cerberus personal, inocents. I am happy my blew that base to hell, if TIM screwed up with some nanotechnology he got from one of the Collectors operations, I am scared to see what he would do with the base

I wonder how ME2 Cerberus and Ascension/Retribution Cerberus can be the same organizations. And I'm getting really tired of incompetent bad guys. It's so cheap. ME2 Cerberus is interesting because it's two-faced and has some elements you could argue for along with its atrocities. Cerberus in the books - that's cardboard villainy. So boring.

And I still keep the base in most of my games. But with Retribution, I fear the worst for ME3's ending being ultra-conventional.

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Judging from others' reactions, it seems TIM practically kicks puppies in Retribution. I'm not getting the book, so I can't confirm personally. I wonder what that means for ME3 and Miranda? Perhaps she ends up resigning regardless?

Miranda and the other crew are not mentioned at all, and Shepard went off the grid. TIM acts like a moron and this is the second time a project with Reaper tech backfired, I am happy I did't give him the base*wait's for Ieldra to argue *

It's easy to argue from foreknowledge and meta-knowledge. That doesn't change how I think of the situation when I encounter it. Also, another reason for Miranda to take over.

But I have to admit I'm very disappointed if this is correct (haven't got Retribution yet), though it doesn't come unexpected.  

Let's just say Cerberus screwed up again but this itme endanered everyone and got ALOT of people killed, not just Cerberus personal, inocents. I am happy my blew that base to hell, if TIM screwed up with some nanotechnology he got from one of the Collectors operations, I am scared to see what he would do with the base

I wonder how ME2 Cerberus and Ascension/Retribution Cerberus can be the same organizations. And I'm getting really tired of incompetent bad guys. It's so cheap. ME2 Cerberus is interesting because it's two-faced and has some elements you could argue for along with its atrocities. Cerberus in the books - that's cardboard villainy. So boring.

And I still keep the base in most of my games. But with Retribution, I fear the worst for ME3's ending being ultra-conventional.

TIm was less of your mustach twirling villian in this book compared to Ascension, but still nothing compared to how he was in the game.

[Breakdown Boy]

Something I found on Diviant Art.

[Ieldra]

Breakdown Boy wrote...



Something I found on Diviant Art.

Yep. Its creator posted it here about two weeks ago. I wish the games had this quality - but that won't happen as long as consoles set the hardware standard.

[TheSixthghoul]

Ieldra2,I just noticed did you model your pic after Miranda?

[Ieldra]

Sixth Goul wrote...
Ieldra2,I just noticed did you model your pic after Miranda?

Not at all. There are a few similarities between this DAO chararacter and Miranda, but they're all unintentional - I played her before ME2 came out.

[jtav]

Regarding Cerberus and the base, meta-knowledge plays into my decision more than I'd like to admit. I know I'm playing the sort of story where things like keeping the Collector Base never turn out well. I've also figured out that the ME series is extremely idealistic. Paragon Shepard is never going to have to face a serious ethical dilemma. There might occasionally be a Bring Down the Sky or Elnora style scenario, but it seems that the "feel-good" decision will always be the best decision in terms of outcome, even when it logically shouldn't. You save more lives thing you lose in rescuing the Council and Sovereign is taken out just as effectively either way. The Rachni Queen really is telling the truth. I'd be willing to bet there's no negative effects from the genophage cure, even though the mere possibility of a resurgent krogan species would throw the rest of the galaxy into a panic. We'll be able to take on the Reapers just as well no matter how we handled the base.

Shepard is such a Marty Stu, not because he's hypercompetent, but because the universe seems to order itself around him and ensure he's always right, even when he shouldn't be. And it makes him really, really hard to like sometimes. My ethics are diametrically opposed to Miranda's, but at least she is aware that sometimes hard choices must be made. I don't want the series to turn completely cynical, but a little balance would be nice.

Modifié par jtav, 29 juillet 2010 - 02:25 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Regarding Cerberus and the base, meta-knowledge plays into my decision more than I'd like to admit. I know I'm playing the sort of story where things like keeping the Collector Base never turn out well. I've also figured out that the ME series is extremely idealistic. Paragon Shepard is never going to have to face a serious ethical dilemma. There might occasionally be a Bring Down the Sky or Elnora style scenario, but it seems that the "feel-good" decision will always be the best decision in terms of outcome, even when it logically shouldn't. You save more lives thing you lose in rescuing the Council and Sovereign is taken out just as effectively either way. The Rachni Queen really is telling the truth. I'd be willing to bet there's no negative effects from the genophage cure, even though the mere possibility of a resurgent krogan species would throw the rest of the galaxy into a panic. We'll be able to take on the Reapers just as well no matter how we handled the base.

I'm contrary in things like this. The ME series presents us with choices, but only the idealistic ones turn out well - so I go for the alternative endings with a determination I wouldn't have had if there were less idealism in the first place. I can live with a completely predetermined ending, but to be presented with choices and then having to deal with their extreme one-sidedness, that sends me up the wall. I'm not usually this cynical, but the more I see of the way the ME storyline is set up, the more I think my Shepard will take his LI, fly off into the unknown and the rest of the galaxy can go to hell.

Shepard is such a Marty Stu, not because he's hypercompetent, but because the universe seems to order itself around him and ensure he's always right, even when he shouldn't be. And it makes him really, really hard to like sometimes. My ethics are diametrically opposed to Miranda's, but at least she is aware that sometimes hard choices must be made. I don't want the series to turn completely cynical, but a little balance would be nice.

Exactly. While my ethics are more in line with Miranda's, I'm not completely without idealism. But occasionally the Renegade choices should turn out better, and the Paragon choices should bite you. In a big way. That they never do is a serious storytelling flaw.

[jtav]

I get the feeling that pure Paragon Shep and Miranda would drive each other crazy, with her constantly wondering how he manages to survive, even thrive, when he should be dead a thousand times over. He's lucky. She's not.



I finished my edits for the first chapter. No idea when I'll post. Want to get a few more chapters. About to take my first crack at writing Shepard/Tali and Gianna. I suspect Gianna will be more fun.