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[Pinkflamingo22]

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[Ieldra]

Edit:

Hmm, that's strange. I can call up the pictures but not quote them here. Sorry for the content-less post.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 07 août 2010 - 09:49 .

[Ieldra]

Elyvern wrote...
From the various reactions we get, I have the feeling that even if such a thing is possible, it remains a feat that elicits incredulity and amazement. This is qualified further by Jacob mentioning how Shepard was basically meat and tubes to start with. I would also like to think that Miranda was more than just a project manager. The part where she chides Wilson for his wrong estimate suggests that not only does she possess the authority but she also has the knowledge and expertise to say so.

I've always assumed that she is also a scientist. Perhaps not with as much detailed expertise as Wilson had, but competent enough to take responsibility in situations like this. Also, she always strikes me as curious, which is why her reaction at the Collector base is particularly galling.
As for how much of a technological miracle this is, it goes as with every technological achievement: once it's done once, it ceases to be miraculous. But in Shepard's case there remains the question: how much of the earlier Shepard is (s)he, given that our sense of continuous identity is mostly an illusion anyway, if you believe the neurologists.

And it saddens me that the work she should rightfully be proud of will probably be buried in classified files and never publicly acknowledged. It’s always been very important for me that of all the LIs (male and female) in both games, she alone has that bigger than life personality, that genius acumen and presence to stand beside Shepard. My biggest consternation is that when the reaper threat is resolved, the universe will mostly acknowledge Shepard’s accomplishments and Miranda will simply become “the woman behind the man”.

Possibly, we'll be able to select our own epilogue again, and one can hope there will be one that gives Miranda her due.  For the rest, I am glad that what happens after ME3 will exist mostly in my imagination, for as you said, the story is set up in a way the LIs have to take second place after Shepard. Miranda deserves her own story. Perhaps someone will tell it.

I have very little hope that it doesn’t go that way, because the hero of the game is Shepard after all. Nonetheless, I can’t help indulging in wishful thinking – perhaps Miranda could pick up the reins of running Cerberus, restructuring the organization as a legitimate force for humanity without shadings of specism and an intelligence gathering and reinforcement agency for Shepard’s future work. She’d still be the woman behind the man but at least she’ll be a power to be reckoned with even in the background.

Shepard would be very bad as any kind of operative or spy. In that role she'd not be the woman behind the man, but a force in her own right, less recognized maybe, but that's OK with me.  

And finally, a personal “Squee!” moment – I can’t imagine the kind of children they’d have – the genetic combination of two legendary and “perfect” human beings is just too delicious to pass by. Although the pressure of their kids living up to parental (especially Miranda’s) and social expectations would probably be unbearable.

You assume that Miranda will leave the genotype of her children to chance. Well, maybe she will, being burned by her own upbringing, but once the knowledge spreads there will be more attempts to improve things on the genetic level, by everyone. Of course, this raises a few interesting questions about identity and ancestry, about what exactly which attributes are better than others etc. etc.. There are Interesting times ahead.

[Nightwriter]

I think that's nigh asking for Miranda to be the leading female co-star of the series. The writers can't justifiably elevate her that high over the other characters - then it would practically be the story of Shepard and Miranda, which, as you know, would be unfair to all the other LI fans and all that.

After arguing with Pups incessantly, I had to wince at the mention of Shepard and Miranda being so awesome together because they're the "perfect" man and "perfect" woman...

Neither of those characters is perfect in my opinion and it's really not what makes it appealing for me. And everyone else uses that as a way to put the romance down - high school jock gets with high school cheerleader, etc.

[TMA LIVE]

Nightwriter wrote...

I think that's nigh asking for Miranda to be the leading female co-star of the series. The writers can't justifiably elevate her that high over the other characters - then it would practically be the story of Shepard and Miranda, which, as you know, would be unfair to all the other LI fans and all that.

But she could star in the movie.

[jtav]

Night, I'm working on very little sleep, so which part is elevating her to female co-star more than she already is? I'd love if she had a novel/comic starring her because I see a ton of story potential. Why do you think I write fic?

Agreed on not liking the "perfect" humans getting together. Blech.

Modifié par jtav, 08 août 2010 - 12:07 .

[tommyt_1994]

Hellow fellow Miranda fans, newest member of the Miranda fan group here . I just dropped by to share my thoughts about Miranda. Feel free to comment, whether you agree or disagree, I'd like to hear anyone's opinion who'll offer it.

Miranda fled from her controlling father at a young age and was recruited by Cerberus. Being a young girl out on her own in the large galaxy must have been extremely difficult, but here comes along a prosperous yet successful organization seeking her talents. Not only could joining Cerberus protect her from her obsessive father, but it gives her a potential for a good life. Turning down Cerberus probably was never a real option in her mind considering the fact that she probably did not have much going for her at the time, and the threat of her father finding her was constantly present. And so, Cerberus takes advantage of this young girl and turns her into an invaluable member of their organization. As seen through dialouge, TIM took advantage of her abilities and used her for his own benefits, not any different from her father's intentions. The Normandy(post-suicide/loyalty mission) is probably the only place where Miranda has ever felt at home. Somewhere where she is appreciated for who she is, not just her abilities(this is doubly so if we're speaking of a romanced Miranda).

Add all of this to the fact that she disagrees with keeping the collector base(something a down-to-the-bone Cerberus operative would not believe), leads me to believe that she doesnt completely agree with Cerberus' methods and ideals. Miranda was taken advantage of and used at a young age, leading me to believe(along with the above details and the whole collector ship decision) that Miranda was, for the lack of a better word, brainwashed by TIM into a blind Cerberus agent.

To those of you who disagree, I know a lot of you probably will, please answer me this question: Would a devoted, true, Cerberus operative to the bone, deny TIM and leave Cerberus after just a few months(assuming the events of ME2 were approxiamiately that long) with Shepard? Miranda has been in Cerberus an extremely long time(from what we can infer through Cerberus station dialogue), would she so quickly turn her back on Cerberus to stay with Shepard? (who has only really helped her with one thing, that being her loyalty mission)

Anyways, that was just my 2 cents , let me know what you think. Have a good day

Also, can someone direct me to some good Miranda Fan fic's? I saw the list in the OP, but if there is anything else that is exceptional that you think I should read, please let me know. Thanks for listening 

Edit: I was just reminded if this conversation with Miranda from the dialogue tree, found in the OP. It should help support the fact that Miranda does not completely agree with Cerberus' actions and beliefs. Here it is:

Shepard: I trust you, but I don't trust Cerberus. Your experiments cross the line.
Miranda: All the time, yes. But I recall a Spectre who crossed a few lines while hunting down Saren and the geth.
Paragon: +2
Miranda: And we'd be lucky to have you. Too many join us out of simple xenophobia. We need more people here for the right reasons.
I saw your monsters.
Shepard: I saw your bases years ago. You were using rachni, Thorian creepers, even husks to make your own army!
Miranda: The husks were already dead, the Thorian creatures were mindless, and the rachni were abandoned once we understood their intelligence.
Miranda: We weren't breeding an army. We were breeding expendable shock troops for high-risk scenarios.
Miranda: How many soldiers died in Saren's attack on Eden Prime? How many would have lived if we'd had just a dozen rachni soldiers on our side?
What about Jack?
Shepard: What was Cerberus trying to prove by experimenting on children like Jack?
Miranda: A mistake. No question. Not mine.
Miranda: And one that was corrected once we discovered the extent of the experiments being performed.
Why do you like Cerberus?
Shepard: With your intelligence, you could have landed any job you wanted. Why choose this?
Miranda: Because I still envy the time Mordin spent with the Special Tasks Group, working with people as smart as he was.
[/b]Miranda: Cerberus never tells me that something is impossible. They give me my resources and say, "Do it."
Miranda: And they've given you even more. A new life, a new ship, the Illusive Man's personal attention...

--The two underlined lines show why she is truly with Cerberus. Shepard can ask her why she constantly talk about herself as a tool to be used by her father/Cerberus, implying that Miranda knows that TIM is just taking advantage of her abilities, and that the real reason she stays with Cerberus is because of the underlinedlines above.

--And along with all of that, Miranda also states that one of the reasons she wen to Cerberus for protection is becuase of Oriana. Miranda probably thought that only Cerberus could keep her safe from her father,
 Oriana's protection is what's most important to her. It's yet another reason on why she is with Cerberus, for Oriana's protection. Here's the dialogue:

Miranda: You remember what I told you about father... building a dynasty?
Miranda: There was another reason I went to Cerberus for protection.
*Miranda gets out of her chair and stands near Shepard*
Miranda: I have a sister. A twin. And he's still hunting her. Cerberus has kept her safe. Until now.
Miranda: She's living a normal life on Illium, safe and hidden from my father.

--Oooh look I found more dialogue that talks about why she joined up with Cerberus

Miranda: He's a very influential man, and extremely controlling. He didn't want a daughter -- he wanted a dynasty.
Miranda: I ran away as soon as I was old and brave enough. I went to Cerberus because I knew they could protect me.


Sorry if it looks like I'm rambling about this, I just think it's an interesting aspect of her character. I think I'm done now though

Modifié par tommyt_1994, 08 août 2010 - 02:50 .

[Elyvern]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I've always assumed that she is also a scientist. Perhaps not with as much detailed expertise as Wilson had, but competent enough to take responsibility in situations like this. Also, she always strikes me as curious, which is why her reaction at the Collector base is particularly galling.

Game-wise, concerns about her as a Cerberus operative will outweighs her potential ethics and behaviour as a scientist. Bringing in that aspect would muddy the water too much, especially considering how most players have to be reminded that it's likely she has a scientific background. Part of me still cheers over how she's casting off her blinkers about the organisation, but the exact reasons for her change of heart... Well, it requires alot of finagling on my part since I usually play combat types and I always bring her along to buff my squad, including missions like Overlord and Pragia. I just have to imagine that somewhere along the line, she decides she's seen enough.  
 
At the very least, her decision to quit Cerberus always gives me heart that BW isn't done with her story, even if the manner of her return is still up in the air (ugh at the number of squadmate speculation threads!)

Possibly, we'll be able to select our own epilogue again, and one can hope there will be one that gives Miranda her due.  For the rest, I am glad that what happens after ME3 will exist mostly in my imagination, for as you said, the story is set up in a way the LIs have to take second place after Shepard. Miranda deserves her own story. Perhaps someone will tell it.

Yes, a grand wrap-up akin to Dragonage would be nice. I can't imagine it going any other way because she is only an optional LI and eventually, everyone has to be accounted for. At some point , I'd also imagine BW will probably have to canonise certain events and such if they want game characters to continue making appearances in other media and spinoffs. Oh well...

Shepard would be very bad as any kind of operative or spy. In that role she'd not be the woman behind the man, but a force in her own right, less recognized maybe, but that's OK with me.

I wasn't clear enough with this - I meant she could offer Cerberus as shadow support to Shepard's work in the event he chooses to continue being a spectre or return to the alliance or something else. Call it clutching at straws so the both of them can continue to work together without Miranda being overshadowed by Shepard.

I would also like to point out that the option of playing full paragon means that Shepard always has the potential to become a Marty Stu, he's in every sense the quintessential "highschool jock". And when I mean they're "perfect" I meant it in terms of phenotype. And I definitely don't harbour the illusion that Miranda is perfect, her character flaws and dubious morality is what attracts me to her in the first place.

Modifié par Elyvern, 08 août 2010 - 11:09 .

[Nightwriter]

jtav wrote...

Night, I'm working on very little sleep, so which part is elevating her to female co-star more than she already is? I'd love if she had a novel/comic starring her because I see a ton of story potential. Why do you think I write fic?

Agreed on not liking the "perfect" humans getting together. Blech.

It is getting late, which is why I'm going to get to the wall-of-text posts in the morning I think, but basically I just meant if they focused on her anymore than they already do it might be pushing it.

Like, for instance, hailing her as the co-hero of the Collector mission anymore than Tali or Garrus or Jack etc.

(though I do think she deserves slightly more credit, but then I'm biased)

[BobZilla84]

I just wanted to say hello to all of my fellow fans of Miri and just wanted to post my thoughts on a few things some have been mentioned in here some not.



1.Miranda Lawson

I really loved Miranda's Character and backstory and I do believe that she has the potental to be one of the most memorable characters if Bioware puts forth the effort with her. She was designed to be perfect but in my opinion she is a little naive when it come to Cerberus.

But I believe she does wish to do her best to aid Humanity.



2.Miranda Lawson's Affilation to Cerberus

I agree that she joined Cerberus for protection from her father for both herself and Oriana but I also would like to state that she is a little naive because of her sheltered life and no real connection with her father I would hazard a guess she probably looked at TIM as a father figure and he no doubt used her insecurities about herself and was able to pretty much brainwash her into believing that Cerberus was Humanities only real hope he protected her and treated her well so of course she would obey his every command blindly Pre-Suicide Mission that is.



3.Miranda Lawson's Leaving Cerberus

I am one of the few who actually don't believe that Shepard was the main reason she left Cerberus I mean he did have some effect on her but I believe Miranda finally opened her eyes and saw TIM and Cerberus for what they really are power hungry and deceptive.



4.Miranda Lawson's/Shepard's Relationship

Miranda/Shepard's relationship has epic potental if devolped correctly in alot of way's they work well the keep the one ano another in check and that is important with Reputations like their's I mean come on The Perfect Woman and The Perfect Human Specimen. I personally always thought that their relationship would be on two front's a Professional Relationship and a Personal Relationship



5.Shepard's Origin

I have heard many theories but I don't believe Shepard has any Reaper Tech in him but then again who knows besides Bioware that is. But my View is Shepard Is a Cyborg/Human Hybrid and also to all the people who foolishly believe that Shepard was brought back just as he was remeber a few things that support my Cyborg/Human Hybrid Shepard view.



1.Widow Sniper Rifle "No human could weild it without it completely Destroying their Shoulder and Chest which is why only Two Groups could use It The Krogan and The Geth but after being brought back Shepard can as well"



2.Claymore Shotgun "Same as above I mean It is Basically A Krogan's Weapon and they are the Strongest Species but after being brought back Shepard can as well"



3.Ryncol "Shepard Can Drink Krogan Liquor and all it did was knock him out remember the Krogan Merchant on Tuchanka tells you that Ryncol would Shred A humans Insides.



I also would love to find some good Miranda Fan fic's

[Jebel Krong]

BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

1.Widow Sniper Rifle "No human could weild it without it completely Destroying their Shoulder and Chest which is why only Two Groups could use It The Krogan and The Geth but after being brought back Shepard can as well"

2.Claymore Shotgun "Same as above I mean It is Basically A Krogan's Weapon and they are the Strongest Species but after being brought back Shepard can as well"

3.Ryncol "Shepard Can Drink Krogan Liquor and all it did was knock him out remember the Krogan Merchant on Tuchanka tells you that Ryncol would Shred A humans Insides.

I also would love to find some good Miranda Fan fic's

you get generic upgrades throughout the game that enable you to wield special weapons/hit harder (denser bones, skin etc). one assumes any soldier could undergo the treatments with the proper resources.

however shepard does survive the batarian bartender's poisoning on omega so there may be a few extra cybernetics in there, too.

[tommyt_1994]

BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

I just wanted to say hello to all of my fellow fans of Miri and just wanted to post my thoughts on a few things some have been mentioned in here some not.

1.Miranda Lawson
I really loved Miranda's Character and backstory and I do believe that she has the potental to be one of the most memorable characters if Bioware puts forth the effort with her. She was designed to be perfect but in my opinion she is a little naive when it come to Cerberus.
But I believe she does wish to do her best to aid Humanity.

2.Miranda Lawson's Affilation to Cerberus
I agree that she joined Cerberus for protection from her father for both herself and Oriana but I also would like to state that she is a little naive because of her sheltered life and no real connection with her father I would hazard a guess she probably looked at TIM as a father figure and he no doubt used her insecurities about herself and was able to pretty much brainwash her into believing that Cerberus was Humanities only real hope he protected her and treated her well so of course she would obey his every command blindly Pre-Suicide Mission that is.

3.Miranda Lawson's Leaving Cerberus
I am one of the few who actually don't believe that Shepard was the main reason she left Cerberus I mean he did have some effect on her but I believe Miranda finally opened her eyes and saw TIM and Cerberus for what they really are power hungry and deceptive.

4.Miranda Lawson's/Shepard's Relationship
Miranda/Shepard's relationship has epic potental if devolped correctly in alot of way's they work well the keep the one ano another in check and that is important with Reputations like their's I mean come on The Perfect Woman and The Perfect Human Specimen. I personally always thought that their relationship would be on two front's a Professional Relationship and a Personal Relationship

5.Shepard's Origin
I have heard many theories but I don't believe Shepard has any Reaper Tech in him but then again who knows besides Bioware that is. But my View is Shepard Is a Cyborg/Human Hybrid and also to all the people who foolishly believe that Shepard was brought back just as he was remeber a few things that support my Cyborg/Human Hybrid Shepard view.

1.Widow Sniper Rifle "No human could weild it without it completely Destroying their Shoulder and Chest which is why only Two Groups could use It The Krogan and The Geth but after being brought back Shepard can as well"

2.Claymore Shotgun "Same as above I mean It is Basically A Krogan's Weapon and they are the Strongest Species but after being brought back Shepard can as well"

3.Ryncol "Shepard Can Drink Krogan Liquor and all it did was knock him out remember the Krogan Merchant on Tuchanka tells you that Ryncol would Shred A humans Insides.

I also would love to find some good Miranda Fan fic's

Welcome, and great post. I agree with right about everything . Miri is probably my favorite character and romance option of the series. And I am very Anti-Cerberus by the way, but it never got in the way of me romancing Miri, she's a lot more that just another Cerberus operative. A lot of anti-Cerberus people use the fact that she's in Cerberus to dislike her.

[Elyvern]

Hello again all,

@tommy& bobzilla – yes indeed, it’s quite problematic trying to figure out Miranda’s decision to leave Cerberus at the end of the game.

I don’t really buy that working for that organization alone most of her adult life would therefore indoctrinate her to blind loyalty. In ME Galaxy she plays the role of an information broker and informant for Jacob, and it was suggested that she travels a lot, and has a lot of contacts throughout the galaxy.  Professionally, she’s likely to have seen just about everything, both good and bad -- which makes it hard to think that she firmly believes the TIM’s way is the only way to go. 

I can definitely buy that she lacks strong familial relationships, possibly even meaningful personal relationships. And while it’s easy to fall into the possibility that TIM may be a father figure for her, there is absolutely nothing in their interactions or the way they talk about each other to suggest that. She does have a father complex, but in this case, it doesn’t necessary mean TIM is part of it.

My take is she probably has doubts of Cerberus all along, but chose not to breathe a word against them. A number of factors probably contribute to that decision. Part of it is because she’s got Cerberus involved too deeply with her sister. Her resignation or betrayal means she wouldn’t be able to prevent them from disclosing Oriana’s whereabouts to their father or worse.

It’s also obvious that she enjoys her work in Cerberus with the unlimited resources and broad leeway she gets. She probably cuts her teeth on the most demanding tasks as a way to maintain self worth. Given all this, it would be easy to reconcile with what Cerberus does because she has a pretty flexible moral compass, and when something threatens to exceed her moral capacity, she ignores it, or rationalises it as someone else’s mistake or the work of rogue agents.

I agree that somewhere along the line, things started changing for her. The frustrating thing is we have no hint at all what her reasons may be. All we have is the betrayal line she says in the collector’s base which is downright asinine. She chooses to respond emotionally when she has been mostly cool and professional, effectively picking a course of action that destroys her career and all the work she's done, endanger her sister’s life and possibly doom humanity and the rest of the galaxy to the reapers. Not saying if I agree or disagree, but you could really argue that this is the biggest decision of her life.

One explanation I can think of is no matter how you choose to regard Shepard’s role in her change of loyalty, if you’re not in a romance with her, she will salute you the one and only time before the suicide mission and says it has been an honour serving under you. You don’t get this scene if you’re in a romance with her (which is another issue all together). I cringe to think that Miranda has succumbed Shepard’s heroic aura and will now follow him/her to hell, even though she basically foreshadows it in an earlier conversation. What a cop-out! And no, the Power of Love crap doesn’t cut it for me either. Unfortunately, both explanations, together with a character conflict as you expose more and more of Cerberus’s atrocities through the side quests are probably the best you can hope for.

Modifié par Elyvern, 08 août 2010 - 05:08 .

[jtav]

I've been playing a Renegade FemShep and noticed that ny "Die, Shepard, die!" feelings are much lessened and it's easier for me to create a Shep I identify with. Those of you who play FemSheps, what is your relationship with Miranda generally like? My current Shep is a Sole Survivor and will hate Miranda and grind Miranda's nose into the dirt as much as possible until Miranda resigns (and then dies, which breaks Shep more than she already was). I anticipate my "main" Shep will have the quasi-familial relationship I talked about the other day. If she had to choose, she'd save Miranda over Kaidan.

[BobZilla84]

@tommy & Elyvern

Hey thinks for your replys and shareing your opinions on things it is always nice to have someone discuss their views especially on an interesting topic like Miranda Lawson

[nitefyre410]

jtav wrote...

I've been playing a Renegade FemShep and noticed that ny "Die, Shepard, die!" feelings are much lessened and it's easier for me to create a Shep I identify with. Those of you who play FemSheps, what is your relationship with Miranda generally like? My current Shep is a Sole Survivor and will hate Miranda and grind Miranda's nose into the dirt as much as possible until Miranda resigns (and then dies, which breaks Shep more than she already was). I anticipate my "main" Shep will have the quasi-familial relationship I talked about the other day. If she had to choose, she'd save Miranda over Kaidan.

 

My  FemShep and Miranda are like Fire and Ice. My FemShep is a rather outgoing laid back,  type of gal. Through her and  Miranda don't open show it, the respect and like each other  great deal. Its like the two sisters that get on each others nerves but love each other  anyway. Even after   Roselyn does something to make Miranda eye  twitch,  Miranda always has a small smile on her face because she knows that Roselyn has her back.   

I think the biggest  issue with most people  when it comes to Miranda is that TOO many take her at face  value.   Because she is not all gooey and cuddly  they think she is just  cold hearted. Miranda  just has trouble openly showing emotions because to her that is vulnerability and her line of work that can get you killed. So they get put off by the cold exterior, not taking the time to see  well emotion under it all.... much like a Ocean, calm on the surface but very, very, very deep    

 always remember people you gotta dig a little deeper 

[BobZilla84]

Also I wondered what my fellow Mirimancers thought of these DLC Ideas

Relationship Pack DLC
1.More depth to Shepards Relationships with his Crew
2.More Dialog with the Dirty Dozen
3.More Backstory about the Dirty Dozen
4.Give Zaeed more items to Interact with to here more of his War Stories and Exploits and his Past
5.Give Kasumi more items to Interact with to here more about her Relationship with Keiji and her career as well and past

Romance Pack DLC
1.Have A unique Mission for each individual Love Interest
2.More Dialog Between Shepard and his chosen Love Interest about their past's Like a Colonist/Sole Survivor Shepard really break down for Miranda to show a damaged side to himself. Imagine the potental there is pretty great considering Akuze was one of Cerberus's projects.
3.Have their Relationship be noticed by the other members of the Crew and her their thoughts on it good or bad
 
The Shepard Pack DLC
1.A mission like Going back to Earth,Mindoir or meeting Hannah Shepard 
2.A mission like Going back to Elysium,Torfan or Akuze
3.A chance to make Shepard seem a little human by having to face his past

Modifié par BobZilla 2k10, 08 août 2010 - 06:56 .

[nitefyre410]

BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

Also I wondered what my fellow Mirimancers thought of these DLC Ideas

Relationship Pack DLC
1.More depth to Shepards Relationships with his Crew
2.More Dialog with the Dirty Dozen
3.More Backstory about the Dirty Dozen
4.Give Zaeed more items to Interact with to here more of his War Stories and Exploits and his Past
5.Give Kasumi more items to Interact with to here more about her Relationship with Keiji and her career as well and past

Romance Pack DLC
1.Have A unique Mission for each individual Love Interest
2.More Dialog Between Shepard and his chosen Love Interest about their past's Like a Colonist/Sole Survivor Shepard really break down for Miranda to show a damaged side to himself. Imagine the potental there is pretty great considering Akuze was one of Cerberus's projects.
3.Have their Relationship be noticed by the other members of the Crew and her their thoughts on it good or bad
 
The Shepard Pack DLC
1.A mission like Going back to Earth,Mindoir or meeting Hannah Shepard 
2.A mission like Going back to Elysium,Torfan or Akuze
3.A chance to make Shepard seem a little human by having to face his past

 


I will take  all of the above...   

OMG what I would give to hear some crew banter going on  Mass Effect. 

[Revan061]

Yeah, crew banter ftw. I would take just squad missions, regardless of romantic entanglements. Just my opinion. I'm all for a deeper/ more content in the romance but I have been leaning more and more in the direction of that happening in ME3.

[BobZilla84]

Thanks Shadow for your polite Compliments I tell you it is nice to have some straight talk about this great game and its characters without having to deal with trolls.



Also thanks for your remark on my DLC Ideas it nice to not be blasted by trolls like I was over in the General Discussion Forum when I had mentioned my views on a potental Romance Pack I had created a topic on said Romance Pack DLC and the trolls came out in force it was both harsh and stupid I am not busting everyones balls but thier biggest complaint is that it would have a date of some kind and I openly agreed with them on that part even I think a date would be a little lame but thats me.



Also there where some supportive replyers as well including one who gave me the Idea for the Relationship Pack DLC can't remember their name



The Shepard Pack is just a silly notion I thought of to make shepard seem a little well normal,human and not just Galatic Hero ya know.

[jtav]

I'd give anything for a proper friendship path with Miranda, instead of the dialog just stopping because we're not having sex. I still care about her. On the other hand, I wish certain of my Sheps could be more vicious toward her.