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[Caihn]

ShadowJ20 wrote...

I choose the exact same thing Yannkee.  But I'm a bit torn between "I promise" and "No promises".  I do want to promise Miranda that I'll stay alive.  And At the same time I do want the hug lol and for her to admit that it is worth it.

I think I chose to promise her, with my full Paragon shepard. I didn't want to hurt her and I wanted to give her hope.

But with all my other shepards :




When she says that it is worth it   
 

[Andysilv]

On my first playthrough I promised her that I'd stay alive but when I found out I missed a hug (and also the kiss in the later scene) I went back and played the whole romance through again in one morning, lol. I think the hug scene is much better, so much more emotion for me.

[jtav]

I hate "everyone needs to know that you're mine." That one line is to me what the base dialogue is to Ieldra. I love the hug, but even then I wish there was a way to make Shepard as distraught as she is. I spend more time rewriting this romance than playing it.

[Caihn]

andysilv87 wrote...

On my first playthrough I promised her that I'd stay alive but when I found out I missed a hug (and also the kiss in the later scene) I went back and played the whole romance through again in one morning, lol. I think the hug scene is much better, so much more emotion for me.

I agree.

[McBeath]

ShadowJ20 wrote...

I never get into a romance conflict because I always romance with Miranda. I personally think the "admire my body" dialogue conflict is better. I love it when she says "Everyone on this ship needs to know that your mine". Shows a serious and possessive tone from Miranda which I really like. To me it shows that if Shep and Miranda do get into a relationship then Shep needs to be serious about it and not fool around with others.

How do you get that option... the I know your mine one?  Never seen that 

[McBeath]

Thanks... maybe I should have read the whole page

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I hate "everyone needs to know that you're mine." That one line is to me what the base dialogue is to Ieldra. I love the hug, but even then I wish there was a way to make Shepard as distraught as she is. I spend more time rewriting this romance than playing it.

Actuially, that line is as bad as the one at the base. But may I remind you that you only get it if you have concurring romances. I *never* get that line in my games. In fact, I wouldn't know it existed at all if not for this forum. The line at the base can also be avoided - just choose the neutral response when first asked what to do with the base. As is fitting, I might add, for this is not a decision to make lightly. As far as I'm concerned, both lines are absent. My Shepards, if played as I imagine them, never get them. 

[Ieldra]

ShadowJ20 wrote...
Ultimately I'd prefer the romance scene to be in Miranda's room.  I personally think she has the best room...even better than the Capt Quarters.(I'll take Miranda's outer space view over Shep's fish)

If I ever get to rewrite the romance scene, it will take place in Miranda's room, and the view out of her window will play a prominent role.

Note2:All romances have love in it.

QFT

[Ieldra]

McBeath wrote...

ShadowJ20 wrote...

I never get into a romance conflict because I always romance with Miranda. I personally think the "admire my body" dialogue conflict is better. I love it when she says "Everyone on this ship needs to know that your mine". Shows a serious and possessive tone from Miranda which I really like. To me it shows that if Shep and Miranda do get into a relationship then Shep needs to be serious about it and not fool around with others.

How do you get that option... the I know your mine one?  Never seen that 

As I said, you get it in certain circumstances if you have concurring romances.

[Caihn]

ShadowJ20 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

On my first playthrough I promised her that I'd stay alive but when I found out I missed a hug (and also the kiss in the later scene) I went back and played the whole romance through again in one morning, lol. I think the hug scene is much better, so much more emotion for me.

I agree.

True....wish there was a way Shep can promise her and still get the hug.

Yeah I think my full paragon Shep would have been happy to get the hug too.

[Ieldra]

tommyt_1994 wrote...
Hey Miranda fans, just dropping in to ask a quick question about the kiss scene. Mainly what I wanted to ask is, do most of you guys(and gals) prefer it around here to the other dialogue? I kinda think it's inappropriate if you let her go on about only being able to take credit for her mistakes and then saying it, the first time the line shows up seems much more appropriate for a little harmless teasing.

For me it's a very hard decision. I like the kiss and the teasing, but you don't get to say "You give your father too much credit. Yeah, he gave you gifts, but you can be proud of what you've done with them." I usually go for the kiss because it's easier to imagine Shepard saying the other thing some time when I'm not watching.

On the other hand, if you don't go for the kiss, you get the "admire your body" lines, which some see as only sex driven but Shep does say "I can't admire your body or your mind?". So it has that going for it I guess.

I don't like that line. What it's meant to convey is very much OK, I'd like to say something to that effect, but the phrasing is cheesy. Another reason to go for the Renegade path.

The main reason I dropped by to ask is to form my own conclusion for my current canon Shep who may be romancing Miranda, and I want to avoid the romance seeming like a fling. So I definetly won't be taking the "Love?" line, even though I know it was a joke to lighten the mood, and I'll be choosing the hug dialogue. So all that's really left is this scene. I'm strongly leaning towards the kiss scene, but outside opinions are always nice.

My preferred path is
*"You're jealous"
*[Kiss her]
in conversation 3 and
*Who said anything about love?
*No promises
in conversation 4. Full Renegade, so to speak. Sometimes I choose "It doesn't matter. What matters is how we feel." instead of "Who said anything about love?" because I want to be more serious, but I don't like that line because it conveys that what you feel is all that matters. Which for Miranda, is definitely not true and neither is it for Shepard.  

[Caihn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

If I ever get to rewrite the romance scene, it will take place in Miranda's room, and the view out of her window will play a prominent role.

The engine room doesn't bother me. But I love the idea of Miranda's room and the view out of her window.

[jtav]

That picture. I can feel my blood pressure dropping already. And please don't take my disagreement on the quality of the romance as an attack on the character or any of you. It isn't. The romance as presented in game is simply not to my taste. Nothing more complicated than that.

[Caihn]

Ieldra2 wrote...
in conversation 4. Full Renegade, so to speak. Sometimes I choose "It doesn't matter. What matters is how we feel." instead of "Who said anything about love?" because I want to be more serious, but I don't like that line because it conveys that what you feel is all that matters. Which for Miranda, is definitely not true and neither is it for Shepard.   

It doesn't mean that what they feel is all that matters, it means that what they feel is more important than if they will survive or not. Miranda is agree, but she wants to be certain that Shepard would do his best to stay alive.
The fear of lost someone she cares, is very touching.

This makes me think a romanced Miranda would prefer to die with Shepard than survive without him. To me it's the reason why her romance is the most meaningful.

Modifié par Yannkee, 17 août 2010 - 08:05 .

[fongiel24]

Slightly offtopic, but have you guys noticed that Shepard has an outside view as well? The Normandy has a moonroof cutout right above his bed. I think that would have been excellent for a post-romance scene, the two of them lying there together staring up at the stars, not saying anything but just enjoying the few moments they have before the Normandy clears the Omega 4 relay.

[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
in conversation 4. Full Renegade, so to speak. Sometimes I choose "It doesn't matter. What matters is how we feel." instead of "Who said anything about love?" because I want to be more serious, but I don't like that line because it conveys that what you feel is all that matters. Which for Miranda, is definitely not true and neither is it for Shepard.   

It doesn't mean that what they feel is all that matters, it means that what they feel is more important than if they will survive or not. Miranda is agree, but she wants to be certain that Shepard would do his best to stay alive.
The fear of lost someone she cares, is very touching.

This makes me think a romanced Miranda would prefer to die with Shepard than survive without him. To me it's the reason why her romance is the most meaningful.

Argh. I made a point at some time of passionately rejecting that old trope. Read my fanfic "A Promise of Love and Death" for details. I really, really hate the "I'm dying with you rather than live without you" trope. I don't find it romantic in the least.

I don't necessarily reject your interpretation of the "What matters is how we feel" line. It's clear she does fear to lose someone she cares for, as shown in the "promise" scene. I don't interpret it that way, but...well, so what. But don't take it so far to mean she wouldn't want to survive without him. 

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
That picture. I can feel my blood pressure dropping already. And please don't take my disagreement on the quality of the romance as an attack on the character or any of you. It isn't. The romance as presented in game is simply not to my taste. Nothing more complicated than that.

Well, then, here's another one:

I need its calming effect as much as you after Yannkee mentioned that Miranda wouldn't want to survive without Shepard. *makes an effort to stop the smoke coming out of the ears*.
(Btw, I don't think you attack Miranda or anyone here)

[jtav]

So there's going to be a ME ficathon. Basically, you submit a prompt and request something else. I want to request something Miranda-centric but don't know what. Suggestions?

[fongiel24]

Love-hate relationship between Miranda/Shepard... Miranda takes Samara's loyalty mission - Samara can't get there in time and Shepard is forced to decide if he's really willing to take on an asari super-biotic to extract her... Miranda prequel... There's so many things I want to see. Where is this ficathon?