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[Ieldra]

Prudii Aden wrote...
Indeed, Miranda is a focus for a lot of antipathy and outright hatred on the forum. Wish I knew why, but I guess each person who hates her does so for some personal reason, or they have an axe to grind.

Indeed. I don't feel that about any character, and I wonder why they do. There have been some valid points in the XO thread, but it's hard to take them seriously as these people interpret anything about Miranda the worst way possible.

[Caihn]

I wish we could hide the posts of specific user on the BSN.

[PTSTormgarde]

Next time, I should disable the subtitles. Thought it was worth sharing this screenshot, certainly there are plenty more around here with better graphics but anyway. xD

[jtav]

I know what it's like to hate a fictional character, but they tend to be rapists, abusers, or cruel to animals. Miranda is cold and a bit of a jerk with a screwy moral compass. I get the dislike, but she's not the font of all evil in the galaxy.

[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...
I wish we could hide the posts of specific user on the BSN.

Let me tell you some of these people can come across in a very different way if Miranda is not the topic. Somehow, Miranda brings out the worst in them.

[PTSTormgarde]

Not to sound rude or trying to raise commotion but the least serious romance and 'cliché' based was Tali's. It felt like one of those 80s soap operas.

[jtav]

That said, Miranda is not the person I'd want in charge when inspiration is required. She isn't charismatic. I also think she might prefer the role of 2IC/faithful lieutenant to being in charge. She is very good at tactics and the "how" of solving problems. She doesn't seem good at strategy, though. She fulfills others' visions; she doesn't decide what the vision is.

[Kronner]

ShadowJ20 wrote...

I think it's pretty clear most people don't like Miranda is because of the way she acts in the beginning of the game.  I'm a big Miranda fan and even I can't stand her at the start.  She's a bit mean to Shepard right off the bat which pretty much puts people off right there.  She's a bit egotistical as well in your first or second conversation.  "I'm good at anything I choose to be at" or something like that.  And she's a Ceberus apologist.  You gotta have some tough skin or be patient in order to like Miranda.

I actually like that, because you can see how she develops her character as you progress thorugh the game. And nothing she says is not true, she IS good at anything she wants. She may be cocky, but that is hardly major problem.
In the end, she forms her own opinion and tells TIM to fook off.

[PTSTormgarde]

Do you think that Miranda would be able to see TIM's true intentions without Shepard's 'guidance'? (So to speak)

Modifié par PTSTormgarde, 19 août 2010 - 04:35 .

[Kronner]

I do not recall the exact line but she says something like "seeing it firsthand I am not sure it is good idea to keep it, it seems like betrayal" - I do not see any guidance.

Modifié par Kronner, 19 août 2010 - 04:38 .

[Caihn]

I think Miranda has her own opinion about this. 
Shepard could have a little influence, but she mainly took this decision herself.

Modifié par Yannkee, 19 août 2010 - 04:42 .

[PTSTormgarde]

Kronner wrote...

I do not recall the exact line but she says something like "seeing it firsthand I am not sure it is good idea to keep it, it seems like betrayal" - I do not see any guidance.

I meant in the sense of embarking on the suicide mission. Would Miranda still figure out that TIM is a bloody crook without being part of the suicide mission?

[jtav]

I liked her from the first. I still want to shake her on occasion, mostly over the control chip and Jack. But she's also capable of breaking my heart. So I get both sides. I think the reason she's hated is that the game tries so hard to make you love her. She has sex appeal, is extremely useful in all gameplay situations, and hard to kill off. It can feel like the game is shoving her down your throat.

[PTSTormgarde]

jtav wrote...

I liked her from the first. I still want to shake her on occasion, mostly over the control chip and Jack. But she's also capable of breaking my heart. So I get both sides. I think the reason she's hated is that the game tries so hard to make you love her. She has sex appeal, is extremely useful in all gameplay situations, and hard to kill off. It can feel like the game is shoving her down your throat.

Didn't they do the same in Mass Effect with Liara?

[Caihn]

PTSTormgarde wrote...

Kronner wrote...

I do not recall the exact line but she says something like "seeing it firsthand I am not sure it is good idea to keep it, it seems like betrayal" - I do not see any guidance.

I meant in the sense of embarking on the suicide mission. Would Miranda still figure out that TIM is a bloody crook without being part of the suicide mission?

I think her trust in TIM has already diminished, before the suicide mission.
But I think she make her decision because of what she see in the collector base and because she knows what TIM would do with the base.

[Laverty317]

Miranda Lawson, Licky Licky Yum Yum?

[Caihn]

I've read too many bullsh*ts in the XO thread, time to leave.

I also have a canon playthrough to finish.

[PTSTormgarde]

Yannkee wrote...

I've read too many bullsh*ts in the XO thread, time to leave.
I also have a canon playthrough to finish.

I think Polaris is bent on harassing Miranda's personna.

[jtav]

I have a playthrough to finish as well. That involves killing her. Two more FemSheps after that and a MaleShep. I suppose I should do Jack and Tali's romances to completion at some point, but I haven't been able to manage it yet.