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[Elyvern]

Good lord, I just woke up and that XO thread still going on?

[jtav]

fongiel, it's just for the game. Not every playthrough I do is for a story. Though I am planning to play a lesbian FemShep at some point who has an unrequited crush on Miranda. I could write FemShep/Miranda, but it would feel pointless since the two Shepards are identical. It would feel like I was just doing it for titillation. I'm playing around with a Miranda/Liara story and requested the same so maybe we can get marginally decent Miranda femslash at some point. I agree with your assessment of the quality so far. It isn't even very good erotica.

[Shadow_broker]

Elyvern wrote...

Good lord, I just woke up and that XO thread still going on?

Miranda is actually getting some decent love on their other than the usual miri haters (ton actus,polaris, kainykarr)
Most think she's most suited for the job

[fongiel24]

jtav wrote...

fongiel, it's just for the game. Not every playthrough I do is for a story. Though I am planning to play a lesbian FemShep at some point who has an unrequited crush on Miranda. I could write FemShep/Miranda, but it would feel pointless since the two Shepards are identical. It would feel like I was just doing it for titillation. I'm playing around with a Miranda/Liara story and requested the same so maybe we can get marginally decent Miranda femslash at some point. I agree with your assessment of the quality so far. It isn't even very good erotica.

I knew it was just for your playthrough. I was just commenting on the overall quality of Miranda slash available out there. Still, a boy can dream of a well-written Miranda slash piece, can't he?

ShadowJ20 wrote...

How many pages do you think that thread is going to up to?

I'm betting 25 to 30 pages.  Namely because Ian Polaris lol.  This guy does nothing but bash Miri.

Any other bets?

That thread has long since stopped being a discussion and is now nothing but a shouting match between Miranda haters and supporters. I thought about posting but there's not much point trying to put together an intelligent argument to combat irrational, emotion-driven character-bashing.

[jtav]

fongiel, if you're not picky about it being Miranda/fShep specifically, I'll see what I can do. You're no the only one who would appreciate good Miranda slash. It's been something of an obsession for me, if the number of half-complete drafts on my hard drive is anything to go by.

[fongiel24]

I'm not picky about the pairings when it comes to well-written fanfiction in universes I enjoy. When I think about it, Miranda/FemShep probably wouldn't even be my first choice for Miranda slash because I'm so used to thinking of Shepard as male. I'm sure whatever you come up with will be awesome, jtav.

[ADLegend21]

(Shameless self promotion)
did someone say femshepxMiranda?
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[VivaLaNES]

ADLegend21 wrote...

(Shameless self promotion)
did someone say femshepxMiranda?
http://www.fanfictio...mour_Chronicles 

I have to say that's not my thing.

BUT:

I loved the story! It made me grin, cause I do exactly what that Shepard does.. take all the kills.

[Nightwriter]

Hey guys, when you do the Miranda kiss scene convo, do you pick the paragon "The best thing he did was give me you" option, which leads to Miranda talking about how she doesn't have your "fire", or do you pick "what, you disapprove?" which leads to her talking about your personal background? 

[VivaLaNES]

I've chosen both but I like "The best thing he did was give me you" choice the best. Basically because I think its true. She probably was the Best thing Illusive Man "gave" to Shepard.

[Ieldra]

raptor1906 wrote...
Hey since we're all Miranda fans here, can someone clear up what happened after Jacob's loyalty mission in the conversation between The Illusive Man, Shepard, Miranda and Jacob. What exactly did Miranda do?

I don't recall exactly what they said. But there was the question of how the information about the Hugo Gernsback's whereabouts came to Jacob, and Miranda admitted she had forwarded it to him. TIM interpreted this as a breach of security protocol for no understandable reason. Miranda said she did this thinking of an old promise we don't hear anything about and which Jacob doesn't remember, but likely it was from the time when Miranda and Jacob were closer.

[Nightwriter]

What do you mean? Are you asking what Jacob was talking about with his vague "selective but good" stuff?

Or do you mean what role did Miranda play in his loyalty mission?

She basically found the info on the Gernsback and passed it to Jacob because she knew it was important to him once.

[Nightwriter]

VivaLaNES wrote...

I've chosen both but I like "The best thing he did was give me you"  choice the best. Basically because I think its true. She probably was the Best thing Illusive Man "gave" to Shepard. 

Actually the reason I like that choice is because she mentions she's not really necessary to the mission.

It's a good argument against the supposed self-importance and inflated ego most people ascribe to her.

But then, for some reason I also like how she refers to your background in the other choice... I'm always so torn.

[fongiel24]

I like the second one (What, you disapprove?) for the reference to Shepard's background but also for another really strange reason.



I hate how the game keeps making references to "squad". A squad in military parlance refers to a small military unit typically led by a NCO. The repeated usage of the term in the game just sounds off to me. If Shepard uses "team" instead of "squad" (The best thing he did was put you on my TEAM), I would have liked it better. If Shepard actually said the exact line on the dialogue wheel (The best thing he did was give me you) it would have been even better than "team".

[Breakdown Boy]

I believe in meeting Shepard and spending time with other very noteworthy individuals, teaches Miranda something...that she is one of many, even if she is 'genetically superior, in many ways'. This is reflected in her statement "I'm sure you would have done fine without me." in response to Shep stating that TIM did the best by including her in his team.



She is all business but she has the ability to become more personal, but with a very select group of people. But I can see her falling back to being all professional if someone hurt her, using it as a protective attitude, like just before killing Niket she becomes cold through logic.

[KainrycKarr]

Nightwriter wrote...

I've never heard you say a word against anyone's LI. Yes, you count.

I'd like to figure out why the hell the other LI fans hate Miranda so much. Is it because they perceive her as a threat where sweet Tali and tortured Jack aren't?

Lurked a bit, figured I'd address this. In recent posts, someone mentions that the game almost tries to pressure you into picking Miranda. Personally, I can definately say that is a part of it. I don't like "default" options, and to me it feels too often in the game that Miranda's opinion/LI is what your "supposed" to do.

Another part is, well, quite frankly, Bioware listens to it's fans. Silly as it is, it's hard to get rid of that feeling of "if another li is getting attention, that threatens my li's existence for Me3". Again, it is quite silly, as both Tali and Miranda are extremely popular, and if any LI's return, imo, it will be them.

I also feel that Miranda's "I'm a cold calculating henchmen just waiting for the charming Mr. bond to come and crack open my shell" archetype is too common. Again, it is merely my opinion...I feel like I see far too many "mirandas" in gaming and movies and it's somewhat dulled me to it. I tend to go for the alternative choices.

Overall though, I don't want Miranda gone as a character. I don't like her, but you aren't supposed to like all the characters in a story. She serves her purpose, and i can certainly understand why others would favor her as a character and an LI.

Afterall.....favoritism aside, that is *quite* a wagon she's draggin'.

My two cents.

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 20 août 2010 - 12:25 .

[Jebel Krong]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

I've never heard you say a word against anyone's LI. Yes, you count.

I'd like to figure out why the hell the other LI fans hate Miranda so much. Is it because they perceive her as a threat where sweet Tali and tortured Jack aren't?

Lurked a bit, figured I'd address this. In recent posts, someone mentions that the game almost tries to pressure you into picking Miranda. Personally, I can definately say that is a part of it. I don't like "default" options, and to me it feels too often in the game that Miranda's opinion/LI is what your "supposed" to do.

Another part is, well, quite frankly, Bioware listens to it's fans. Silly as it is, it's hard to get rid of that feeling of "if another li is getting attention, that threatens my li's existence for Me3". Again, it is quite silly, as both Tali and Miranda are extremely popular, and if any LI's return, imo, it will be them.

I also feel that Miranda's "I'm a cold calculating henchmen just waiting for the charming Mr. bond to come and crack open my shell" archetype is too common. Again, it is merely my opinion...I feel like I see far too many "mirandas" in gaming and movies and it's somewhat dulled me to it. I tend to go for the alternative choices.

Overall though, I don't want Miranda gone as a character. I don't like her, but you aren't supposed to like all the characters in a story. She serves her purpose, and i can certainly understand why others would favor her as a character and an LI.

Afterall.....favoritism aside, that is *quite* a wagon she's draggin'.

My two cents.

neither game 'pressures' you into any romance, they do, however, make a 'default' romance easy to start for the average/casual player not so 'in' to the universe: in me1 it was liara who practically (and unsubtley) threw herself at you after 2 convos, in mass effect 2 it happens to be miranda, and is handled rather better.

[Ieldra]

raptor1906 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

What do you mean? Are you asking what Jacob was talking about with his vague "selective but good" stuff?

Or do you mean what role did Miranda play in his loyalty mission?

She basically found the info on the Gernsback and passed it to Jacob because she knew it was important to him once.

Yea what role she played in his loyalty mission.

Ieldra2 wrote...

raptor1906 wrote...
Hey since we're all Miranda fans here, can someone clear up what happened after Jacob's loyalty mission in the conversation between The Illusive Man, Shepard, Miranda and Jacob. What exactly did Miranda do?

I don't recall exactly what they said. But there was the question of how the information about the Hugo Gernsback's whereabouts came to Jacob, and Miranda admitted she had forwarded it to him. TIM interpreted this as a breach of security protocol for no understandable reason. Miranda said she did this thinking of an old promise we don't hear anything about and which Jacob doesn't remember, but likely it was from the time when Miranda and Jacob were closer.

Thats strange, Jacob and Miranda have only been close for at the most 2 years since Mass Effect Galaxy takes place after the evns of Mass Effect 1

What's so strange about it? That Miranda knows about the location just means she happened to intercept the Hugo Gernsback's distress call and, remembering that old promise, passed it on to Jacob. Everything happened within, well, we don't know, but it can't be more than a few weeks. 

[Ieldra]

KainrycKarr wrote...
Another part is, well, quite frankly, Bioware listens to it's fans. Silly as it is, it's hard to get rid of that feeling of "if another li is getting attention, that threatens my li's existence for Me3". Again, it is quite silly, as both Tali and Miranda are extremely popular, and if any LI's return, imo, it will be them.

There is that. The result was this "my thread is longer than yours" competition going on for several months after release. Good that's mostly gone now.

I also feel that Miranda's "I'm a cold calculating henchmen just waiting for the charming Mr. bond to come and crack open my shell" archetype is too common. Again, it is merely my opinion...I feel like I see far too many "mirandas" in gaming and movies and it's somewhat dulled me to it. I tend to go for the alternative choices.

While common, it's done rather well in this case, if too fast. At least Miranda keeps up a strong presence of her own and never becomes a mere appendage to Shepard.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 20 août 2010 - 02:15 .