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[jtav]

Will do, Ieldra. I know I''m doomed to be disappointed, but you aren't the only one who finds spies with superpowers irresistible. And Obsidian games tend to be interesting, if flawed.



My reasons for liking Miranda are 1, 4, and 2, in that order. It's so refreshing to have a female character who is unquestionably competent and doesn't need to be saved physically or emotionally. I know Ieldra says I make too much of her issues, but the point is that she's managed to mostly deal with them on her own. I didn't feel like she needed Shepard to be happy or functional. I don't feel guilty for not romancing her, which paradoxically makes her more attractive.

[Ieldra]

Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
(7) It helps that she's beautiful (tell me she isn't and I'll give you a few screenshots).

She isn´t.
And now I´m eagerly awaiting some screens of the most beautiful ME character, so don´t disappoint.

:lol: I'm not at home with my thumbnails at easy access, but we can start with this one:

[Ieldra]

And this one:

[Ieldra]

And this one. That should do it for now.

[Lord Ed1]

I would like to contribute to this new thread. I was unable to post in the other one on the last couple of pages, I kept winding up in some other, random, nameless thread. I like this one:

Modifié par Lord Ed1, 14 juin 2010 - 12:54 .

[Ieldra]

Welcome, Lord Ed1. And thanks for the nice screenshot and for joining the group!

[Lord Ed1]

Thank you! I actually can't believe I didn't join before, I've been following these thread for a long time.. except that I didn't discover the new one 'till only this morning. Perhaps I'll be more active here in the next few days.

[TheSixthghoul]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Sixth Goul wrote...
I must ask, am I the only who thinks that Miranda could benefit more from not being a main plot point in Mass Effect 3?

I don't know if you're the only one, but I certainly do not agree. Characters without a role in the main plot usually get less attention and character development. If you think otherwise, explain.

Well, it depend on what you consider a main character or as I call plot characters. To me a plot character is any character in Mass Effect that is not optional,un kill-able or unavoidable (they at least have to be un kill-able and  have one more quality). In Mass Effect one there is a total of five plot characters three npc's and two...Others. Now in you're party there are four fully developed character who don't serve a plot role expect one that has to die. My point is all the party member that where not main plot characters where the ones fully develop. A plot character can't be fully develop because the have to serve a role in main story, static unless there is an option. Good thing Miranda isn't main character in this regards . I'd go into more detail,but to appease the Apologist on this support group, I'll hear hope this answers you're question.

[VampireCommando]

*Stumbles back in after a wicked night out*

Hey guys hows it going today? i see we keep getting more and more new people, well thats good:), i might not be that active today as my head it absoutley killing me, Ugh, but i see we have had n intreasting discussion whilst i've been away so i'll start to read that:wizard:

[Prudii Aden]

As a friend of mine once said - competence is sexy.

[jtav]

Prudii Aden wrote...

As a friend of mine once said - competence is sexy.

QFT. I have this thing for competent and otherwise gifted characters. ME2 is like Christmas come early.

[VampireCommando]

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Modifié par VampireCommando, 14 juin 2010 - 03:10 .

[jtav]

And apparently the sole ME2 content at E3 is a demo of the game. It would be nice to get some story-driven DLC, particularly featuring Miranda.

[Ieldra]

@VampireCommando:

Use img tags, not url tags.

[VampireCommando]

jtav wrote...

And apparently the sole ME2 content at E3 is a demo of the game. It would be nice to get some story-driven DLC, particularly featuring Miranda.

Seems odd offering a demo of a game thats already out, what would be the point of showing this at E3?

[VampireCommando]

Definately my two favirote pieces of Miri art so far.

Modifié par VampireCommando, 14 juin 2010 - 03:27 .

[Ieldra]

Sixth Goul wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Sixth Goul wrote...
I must ask, am I the only who thinks that Miranda could benefit more from not being a main plot point in Mass Effect 3?

I don't know if you're the only one, but I certainly do not agree. Characters without a role in the main plot usually get less attention and character development. If you think otherwise, explain.

Well, it depend on what you consider a main character or as I call plot characters. To me a plot character is any character in Mass Effect that is not optional,un kill-able or unavoidable (they at least have to be un kill-able and  have one more quality). In Mass Effect one there is a total of five plot characters three npc's and two...Others. Now in you're party there are four fully developed character who don't serve a plot role expect one that has to die. My point is all the party member that where not main plot characters where the ones fully develop. A plot character can't be fully develop because the have to serve a role in main story, static unless there is an option. Good thing Miranda isn't main character in this regards . I'd go into more detail,but to appease the Apologist on this support group, I'll hear hope this answers you're question.

I see. You're right in one aspect: characters with character development options, which you can influence, are easier to make if they are not plot-critical. On the other side, a plot-critical character can get as much character development as the writers want him or her to get without any problems, as long as that development path is fixed. Since we want to influence Miranda's character development, maybe it's better that she is not plot-critical, since then her character development would have to be tied to other main plot decisions - as it already is to the decision about the base. Now is that a good thing or a bad thing? Really, I don't know. But I do know that Miranda should be an important character, because unimportant ones tend to get less character development unless the whole game is about them - as in ME2.

[VampireCommando]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Sixth Goul wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Sixth Goul wrote...
I must ask, am I the only who thinks that Miranda could benefit more from not being a main plot point in Mass Effect 3?

I don't know if you're the only one, but I certainly do not agree. Characters without a role in the main plot usually get less attention and character development. If you think otherwise, explain.

Well, it depend on what you consider a main character or as I call plot characters. To me a plot character is any character in Mass Effect that is not optional,un kill-able or unavoidable (they at least have to be un kill-able and  have one more quality). In Mass Effect one there is a total of five plot characters three npc's and two...Others. Now in you're party there are four fully developed character who don't serve a plot role expect one that has to die. My point is all the party member that where not main plot characters where the ones fully develop. A plot character can't be fully develop because the have to serve a role in main story, static unless there is an option. Good thing Miranda isn't main character in this regards . I'd go into more detail,but to appease the Apologist on this support group, I'll hear hope this answers you're question.

I see. You're right in one aspect: characters with character development options, which you can influence, are easier to make if they are not plot-critical. On the other side, a plot-critical character can get as much character development as the writers want him or her to get without any problems, as long as that development path is fixed. Since we want to influence Miranda's character development, maybe it's better that she is not plot-critical, since then her character development would have to be tied to other main plot decisions - as it already is to the decision about the base. Now is that a good thing or a bad thing? Really, I don't know. But I do know that Miranda should be an important character, because unimportant ones tend to get less character development unless the whole game is about them - as in ME2.

Goul make some very good points about the character development and all, but Ieldra you are also correct about none plot critical characters getting lees detail paid to them in development, i think the key to this would be finding the perfect balance between the two so that the character can develop without being attached to the plot like Goul said but at the same time has enough attention paid to them to ensure that they are made into a great character just like what Ieldra said, however i imagine finding a 'perfect' balance is hard to come by.

[jtav]

Right about now, I'd settle for her showing up in some capacity, nit suffering character derailment, and a meaningful conclusion to the romance. I'm feeling pessimistic.

[SgtPotato]

=^D



What? This collector is very lonely.

[VampireCommando]

SgtPotato wrote...



=^D

What? This collector is very lonely.

WTF is that crap, well theres only one thing for collector scum like that getting his hands on Miri.

I say;


The collector of course, not Miri.

[TheSixthghoul]

Can you do one with TIM and Tali on the bed and post it own the Tali page?

[jtav]

Funnily enough SgtPotato, the Liara thread is discussing the possibility of replacing Shepard's model with Liara's. The talk turned very quickly to a Lara/Miranda engine room scene. Take that as you will.

[VampireCommando]

Sixth Goul wrote...

Can you do one with TIM and Tali on the bed and post it own the Tali page?

Thats evil... i like it:devil::devil:

[Andaius20]

VampireCommando wrote...

Sixth Goul wrote...

Can you do one with TIM and Tali on the bed and post it own the Tali page?

Thats evil... i like it:devil::devil:

Shepard: Don't worry Miri they wouldn't really do that, they aren't so cruel.
Miri: *Sob* I hope so Shepard