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Due to unknown reasons to me, this thread here is un-bearably slow today. So i thought I'd post the link to a series of one-shots I found while browsing fanfiction.net. It's basically 19 different little stories centered around Shepard's and Miranda's relationship. Most of them are, whats the word, occurring in the same universe? I'm at a loss for words. I mean that most of them are linked to each other save a few, which are easily noticed from the rest. I enjoyed probably 18 of the 19 stories. They are mainly light-hearted, but they certainly aren't all like that. There's fun, conflict, pranks, and all in-between really. They're not graphic or anything like that either. A lot of you won't like them, but I do, and maybe a few of you will. The author's opinions differ from many of yours in regards to their relationship, but nonetheless their fun to read IMO. Hope you like 'em

http://www.fanfictio...43790/1/Moments

Author: Stradivarium

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Thanks for breaking the silence, tommy. I just got up and was shocked. Shocked, I say. Only two posts in the whole night....

Regarding the scenes, they're nice enough in themselves but Miranda is not recognizeable enough. At least in the first three. Granted, we have no way to know how she'll behave in a relationship, but IMO it's all too generic, tropes projected on Miranda without thinking enough of whether they'd apply. Some things are also subtly off. For instance, I can't imagine she doesn't already know everything in those files of Mordin's. At least in theory.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Thanks for breaking the silence, tommy. I just got up and was shocked. Shocked, I say. Only two posts in the whole night....

Regarding the scenes, they're nice enough in themselves but Miranda is not recognizeable enough. At least in the first three. Granted, we have no way to know how she'll behave in a relationship, but IMO it's all too generic, tropes projected on Miranda without thinking enough of whether they'd apply. Some things are also subtly off. For instance, I can't imagine she doesn't already know everything in those files of Mordin's. At least in theory.




I agree with you here somewhat. I could imagine their relationship possibly reaching that type of care-free level down the road, but not as soon as the author displays it. I dont want to spoil it, but there are probably some details you will dislike down the road as well, if you continue reading. It certainly isn't perfect, but it's a fun read in my opinion. There also isn't as many hardships as I would imagine Miranda and Shep having to trudge through, and the few that do pop up are resolved too quickly. But he/she created them as a series of one-shots, not a continuing story really. I think he/she also wrote them very spaced out, so they use a lot of the same phrases way too often which can be annyoing. The author writes out "Commander Shepard, twice savior of the galaxy..." a million times, and refers to Miranda as the XO quite often. But it's possible to get through them. About the ump-teenth time seening those phrases, I just began not even reading them and reading past them without really thinking about it.

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But it's possible to get through them.

That's not exactly a recommendation for a story.

Well, maybe I'll have more to say after I'm through with them. Probably not, though.

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So much for that. A sentence like this:

"He always knew there was a real woman beneath her professional façade."

Makes me go up the wall. :pinched: This looks more and more like the kind of Miranda fanfic better left unwritten.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 28 août 2010 - 07:25 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

tommyt_1994 wrote...
But it's possible to get through them.

That's not exactly a recommendation for a story.

Well, maybe I'll have more to say after I'm through with them. Probably not, though.

Edit:
So much for that. A sentence like this:

"He always knew there was a real woman beneath her professional façade."

Makes me go up the wall. :pinched: This looks more and more like the kind of Miranda fanfic better left unwritten.

Yeahhhhh I actually read that line today and it made me go "huh???". It looks like the author just took a character he/she liked,and applied how he/she wanted to see her as as apposed to who her character is. There are some aspects of this fic I like, and some I extremely hate. An un-expected pregnancy(which was due to Miranda forgetting to replace her birth control implants which seems very OOC to me) , a marriage proposal mid-battle, and Miri/Shep getting wasted and having sex in a dark booth at Afterlife are three that I very much dislike. They're way too OOC and appear to be the author's fantasy and not very realistic when it comes to the characters. I have been looking for some well written Miranda fic's on fanfiction.net but there's a million to go through, and I would have to read them all to find the good ones. Have any suggestions?

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tommyt_1994 wrote...
I have been looking for some well written Miranda fic's on fanfiction.net but there's a million to go through, and I would have to read them all to find the good ones. Have any suggestions?

The OP has some links, in case you hadn't noticede. I particularly like "Operation Forseti". Also fongiel24's "Rebirth" and jtav's "Be All Our Sins Remembered". LuxDragon's "Fight for the Lost" has a nice rewrite of a Miranda scene as well. Haven't read the others in some time to compare. Otherwise, I'm not browsing ff.net at the moment - too occupied with my own story.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

tommyt_1994 wrote...
I have been looking for some well written Miranda fic's on fanfiction.net but there's a million to go through, and I would have to read them all to find the good ones. Have any suggestions?

The OP has some links, in case you hadn't noticede. I particularly like "Operation Forseti". Also fongiel24's "Rebirth" and jtav's "Be All Our Sins Remembered". LuxDragon's "Fight for the Lost" has a nice rewrite of a Miranda scene as well. Haven't read the others in some time to compare. Otherwise, I'm not browsing ff.net at the moment - too occupied with my own story.

Alright thanks, I'll check the OP. Good luck on your story

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tommyt_1994 wrote...

Due to unknown reasons to me, this thread here is un-bearably slow today. So i thought I'd post the link to a series of one-shots I found while browsing fanfiction.net. It's basically 19 different little stories centered around Shepard's and Miranda's relationship. Most of them are, whats the word, occurring in the same universe? I'm at a loss for words. I mean that most of them are linked to each other save a few, which are easily noticed from the rest. I enjoyed probably 18 of the 19 stories. They are mainly light-hearted, but they certainly aren't all like that. There's fun, conflict, pranks, and all in-between really. They're not graphic or anything like that either. A lot of you won't like them, but I do, and maybe a few of you will. The author's opinions differ from many of yours in regards to their relationship, but nonetheless their fun to read IMO. Hope you like 'em

http://www.fanfictio...43790/1/Moments

Author: Stradivarium


Oh yeah, I read his fanfic for a while ago. I liked some of the chapters. I started to notice that there's a lot of sex in there and I believed he need to lay off the sex or tone it down. One of the chapters did threw me off and it just went too far. :blink:

Modifié par SgtPotato, 28 août 2010 - 01:30 .


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My, is this dead here. Where is everyone?



Where was I? Ah yes: the first chapter of my fanfic about 16-year-old Miranda is almost ready for publishing. I only need a beta reader for the whole chapter. Any volunteers? Be warned, there is no romance in this one and the first chapter is by necessity completely without dialogue.








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Ieldra2 wrote...
My, is this dead here. Where is everyone?


Not here, I think.


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Do you think Big Lawson (Miranda's father) will attempt anything against you in Mass Effect 3?

From what Miranda trusts us, he is a ruthless man with ambition and lots of credits, which makes you ponder whether he is some sort of space-tycoon (bad naming) or actually the boss of a criminal group (which I see as the most probable) Either way, I bet he simply doesn't want any involvement with a Spectre or is unaware of Miranda's whereabouts.

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So it seems.... (oops. that was in answer to Yannkee)

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PTSTormgarde wrote...
Do you think Big Lawson (Miranda's father) will attempt anything against you in Mass Effect 3?
From what Miranda trusts us, he is a ruthless man with ambition and lots of credits, which makes you ponder whether he is some sort of space-tycoon (bad naming) or actually the boss of a criminal group (which I see as the most probable) Either way, I bet he simply doesn't want any involvement with a Spectre or is unaware of Miranda's whereabouts.

It depends. If the truth about the Reaper threat finally gets out, it will not be plausible that he does. Otherwise, no idea what Bioware intends. I don't think there are too many opportunities for sub-plots like this. 

And I don't think he's some sort of crime lord. Miranda says he's a very wealthy businessman. OK, the two aren't mutually exclusive, but I think his main business is legal. 

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It's been nagging me, but the truth is I find it very puzzling Miranda hasn't initiated any follow up actions against her father all these years. She, of all people, should know that kidnapping Oriana was a short-term solution that wouldn't prevent him from ordering the creation of more daughters. And with her sucess at escaping with her sister, she has to be conscious of the fact that her father may attempt to learn from the incident and inflict even worse horrors on his future children, like confine them to one room all their lives for security's sake, or the creation of clone units with tank-imprints like Grunt. The sheer number of possbilities are just...sick. 

I can't reconcile the possibility that Miri hasn't done anything about this. For someone as astute and pragmatic as her, it's akin to an ostrich sticking its head into the sand. Granted, Cerberus may balk at opposing her father since he used to be an influential contributor, but I can't imagine her giving up a rightful cause just like that.

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Apologies for not being around much. I've been busy with activating my new broadband account. As for Moments, I don't care much for it for many of the reasons Ieldra mentioned. I do believe Lawson will eventually try to retake Oriana again. I could see Miranda heading into a downward spiral in Paragon games since she threw away Oriana's protection.

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Miranda Kicks Mass

WOOOOO

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Elyvern wrote...

It's been nagging me, but the truth is I find it very puzzling Miranda hasn't initiated any follow up actions against her father all these years. She, of all people, should know that kidnapping Oriana was a short-term solution that wouldn't prevent him from ordering the creation of more daughters. And with her sucess at escaping with her sister, she has to be conscious of the fact that her father may attempt to learn from the incident and inflict even worse horrors on his future children, like confine them to one room all their lives for security's sake, or the creation of clone units with tank-imprints like Grunt. The sheer number of possbilities are just...sick. 

I can't reconcile the possibility that Miri hasn't done anything about this. For someone as astute and pragmatic as her, it's akin to an ostrich sticking its head into the sand. Granted, Cerberus may balk at opposing her father since he used to be an influential contributor, but I can't imagine her giving up a rightful cause just like that.

Bolded bit is good reason why cerebrus won't get rid of him
Cerebrus was spos to be protecting Orianna to full ability i think, And if her dad is as powerful as she claims then getting rid of him wouldn't be easy on her own.

I hope her Dad plays a majior Role in ME3 one of those characters like SB that i can't get out of my head

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Ieldra2 wrote...

PTSTormgarde wrote...
Do you think Big Lawson (Miranda's father) will attempt anything against you in Mass Effect 3?
From what Miranda trusts us, he is a ruthless man with ambition and lots of credits, which makes you ponder whether he is some sort of space-tycoon (bad naming) or actually the boss of a criminal group (which I see as the most probable) Either way, I bet he simply doesn't want any involvement with a Spectre or is unaware of Miranda's whereabouts.

It depends. If the truth about the Reaper threat finally gets out, it will not be plausible that he does. Otherwise, no idea what Bioware intends. I don't think there are too many opportunities for sub-plots like this. 

And I don't think he's some sort of crime lord. Miranda says he's a very wealthy businessman. OK, the two aren't mutually exclusive, but I think his main business is legal. 


If Shepard and Miri are no longer working for cerebrus there's nothing really stopping her dad from tracking them down (Dead spectres aren't very subtle apparently) And TIM will likley pull a ****** move and have Mirandas dad Rejoin cerebrus in exchange for his former operative since TIM likley needs the money with all that has gone wrong for him

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Apologies for not being around much. I've been busy with activating my new broadband account.

What's changed? Didn't you say you couldn't get one? Anyway, congratulations! That will make "online life" much easier.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Apologies for not being around much. I've been busy with activating my new broadband account.

What's changed? Didn't you say you couldn't get one? Anyway, congratulations! That will make "online life" much easier.


Sprint's just (as in yesterday) rolled out an unlimited wireless broadband program. Speed isn't great, but I'm no longer waiting half an hour to download a 2MB file. I'll have to wait until my PC version of ME and Cerberus Network gets here to see how it handles huge files, but for now :o

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Shadow_broker wrote...

Elyvern wrote...

It's been nagging me, but the truth is I find it very puzzling Miranda hasn't initiated any follow up actions against her father all these years. She, of all people, should know that kidnapping Oriana was a short-term solution that wouldn't prevent him from ordering the creation of more daughters. And with her sucess at escaping with her sister, she has to be conscious of the fact that her father may attempt to learn from the incident and inflict even worse horrors on his future children, like confine them to one room all their lives for security's sake, or the creation of clone units with tank-imprints like Grunt. The sheer number of possbilities are just...sick. 

I can't reconcile the possibility that Miri hasn't done anything about this. For someone as astute and pragmatic as her, it's akin to an ostrich sticking its head into the sand. Granted, Cerberus may balk at opposing her father since he used to be an influential contributor, but I can't imagine her giving up a rightful cause just like that.

Bolded bit is good reason why cerebrus won't get rid of him
Cerebrus was spos to be protecting Orianna to full ability i think, And if her dad is as powerful as she claims then getting rid of him wouldn't be easy on her own.

I hope her Dad plays a majior Role in ME3 one of those characters like SB that i can't get out of my head


Yes, you bolded that point and then entirely ignore the last part of my sentence, namely even if Cerberus refuses to move against her father, I feel its unlike Miri to forget about it just like that. There is no reason that she wouldn't try and do something about it on her own. I hope as well that her dad appears on ME3 and we get some kind of resolution to this.

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Elyvern wrote...
It's been nagging me, but the truth is I find it very puzzling Miranda hasn't initiated any follow up actions against her father all these years. She, of all people, should know that kidnapping Oriana was a short-term solution that wouldn't prevent him from ordering the creation of more daughters. And with her sucess at escaping with her sister, she has to be conscious of the fact that her father may attempt to learn from the incident and inflict even worse horrors on his future children, like confine them to one room all their lives for security's sake, or the creation of clone units with tank-imprints like Grunt. The sheer number of possbilities are just...sick.
I can't reconcile the possibility that Miri hasn't done anything about
this. For someone as astute and pragmatic as her, it's akin to an
ostrich sticking its head into the sand. Granted, Cerberus may balk at
opposing her father since he used to be an influential contributor, but I
can't imagine her giving up a rightful cause just like that.


I can think of a number of reasons:
(1) Cerberus doesn't want her to act against him. TIM may be interested in his experiments.
(2) Her father is a strong enough presence in her mind that Miranda fears to confront him.
(3) He has stopped creating new daughters - that would explain why he's so obsessive about Oriana. She could know because the spy programs she has in her father's systems.
(4) She knows she'd have to kill him to prevent any further problems, but she's not emotionally prepared to do that.

I could imagine more. Really, we know so little about him and the details of his creations that I won't even cast a judgment on him without further information.

As for the "rightful cause" - Miranda is Renegade enough that she would scoff at the term. Much easier to move her to action by invoking her empathy.

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Here is the result of my main Shepard playthrough :

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Zaeed died as 2nd fire team leader, I won't miss him.

Jack died in seeker swarms, she deserves the most horrible death. Threatening one of my crew is a terrible mistake, threatening Miri even more.

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I like Jack. Bit too close to Viconia and I REALLY don't like her romance but the way she and Miranda function as foils is one of my favorite things about the game.



Stupid question, but I'm new at all this. Can I use gibbed to modify my ME2 save so that the game thinks I've saved the Council, romanced Liara, etc. I've no interest in purchasing a second copy of ME, but I don't want to be stuck with the default.

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The recruitment of a psychopath like Jack should have been optional. First, I didn't care about this character, but now I really don't want to see her again. I have one "no one left behind" playthrough, but I don't think I will use this save in ME3.