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Strikor2115 wrote...
Hey everyone, it's been awhile. I just finished another "Miranda" piece. I'm not sure its safe for work, so here is a link, enjoy :)

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Hmmm. Nice Very nice. It makes me smile. :) *saves the picture, just in case*

Prudii Aden wrote...
It's almost enough to make me jealous of Shep. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png

What - you haven't already been? :lol:

Modifié par Ieldra2, 04 septembre 2010 - 11:21 .


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Strikor2115 wrote...

Ms. Lawson

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Very nice. I like it.

And I didn't mean future LIs should be carbon copies of Miranda, but that I wanted more that could be considered the PCs equal.

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Chapter 2 of "Promethean Legacy" is up. In "Into the Dark":

*Miranda discovers she might have a sister.
*Miranda's father crosses a moral event horizon.
*Cerberus puts in an appearance.
*Miranda takes a level in badass.
*Lots of background information, some science (after all, I do write SciFi)

There is a canon issue brought to my attention by fongiel24. I take this opportunity to mention I intend to write canon-compatible, but since the canon is not consistent with itself, especially in about anything concerning the timing of events, I choose to regard in-world documents as not 100% reliable, especially if they are minor.

Chapter 3, tentatively titled "Operation Sunrise", will be about Miranda getting Oriana out of her father's high-security prison corporate headquarters.I don't know if I can finish it before my vacation (beginning on the 11th), so it *may* be a while until it's up.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 04 septembre 2010 - 02:18 .


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Nice work Ieldra. Already left a comment. Wish I could write as well.

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Mass Effect 2: Lair of the Shadow Broker hands-on and mini review

Short version: biggest, most robust offering yet, buy it even if you found the others lacking as it should actually have some ramifications. Shame none of your teammates talk during the DLC packs, even though we understand why that is - BioWare's official response says the DLC packs are about certain characters, so the teammates are peripheral in those instances, but more likely it's because hauling in 13 voice actors to record brief snippets is quite a hassle.

 

So Miranda won't say a word during the DLC, despite everything that happened during Redemption.
It's ridiculous. <_<

Now, the only reason why I want to buy this DLC is the shadow broker .. don't know if it will worth it.

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Well then, I'll just have to pretend they interact. I've done it before and will do it again. I might take the opportunity to finish Ch. 2 of Atonement, just in case there's anything from LotSB I want to steal for Miranda/Liara. I'm so getting the DLC regardless though.

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Yannkee wrote...

BioWare's official response says the DLC packs are about certain characters, so the teammates are peripheral in those instances, but more likely it's because hauling in 13 voice actors to record brief snippets is quite a hassle.


So Miranda won't say a word during the DLC, despite everything that happened during Redemption.
It's ridiculous. <_<

I understand why they're doing it - but I highly resent that they're not honest in their given reasons. We've had team member comments on others' loyalty missions, so that line of "reasoning", if you can call it that, falls flat on its face. Everyone knows anyway, so why do they stick to this ridiculous propaganda piece?

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PR people are apparently pathological liars. Still, I'm very much looking forward to the DLC. Liara is my second favorite team member and at least she and Miranda can fight side by side.

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I did think about not buying it. Well, I will, it's a DLC with a story after all, but some time they'll make me think "I might not be buying this" one time too many.

BTW, I just read a fanfic (better left unlinked) - does anyone know how someone could get the idea to describe Miranda as "skinny"?
And: Is the majority of fanfic readers addicted to romance regardless of quality? The reviews I'm reading, I'm puzzled.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 04 septembre 2010 - 04:20 .


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No clue. I'd describe her as athletic or lean, but not skinny.

Is it just me or is there a shortage of even decent Miranda-fic?

And: Is the majority of fanfic readers addicted to romance regardless of quality? The reviews I'm reading, I'm puzzled.


Yep. Write explicit sex featuring readers' OTP and you're golden. Character, plot, and good writing come in a distant second for some readers.

Modifié par jtav, 04 septembre 2010 - 04:31 .


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fongiel24 wrote...

Strikor2115 wrote...

Hey everyone, it's been awhile. I just finished another "Miranda" piece. I'm not sure its safe for work, so here is a link, enjoy :)

fav.me/d2xyt8g


Nice! Hard to believe you managed to do this in four hours. How do you manage it?


Thank you everyone for your positive feedback! Im glad you all enjoyed. The sketch only took me around an hour, and the coloring took the rest, The shadeing of the sketch did most of the depth work.

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Is it just me or is there a shortage of even decent Miranda-fic?

I wouldn't know, having no other set of fanfic to compare. But I just found randomly browsing Miranda fanfic isn't a good idea. I got:

(1) A story with gratuitous and pointless p*rn.
(2) A story with a completely unexplained reconciliation between Miranda and her father.
(3) A story where it's mentioned in passing that Garrus and Tali have a child and Miranda and Shepard have a completely conventional love life. 
(4) A story that's actually a decently-written erotic comedy, all the more funny because it doesn't take itself seriously, but Miranda is completely OOC and any other woman would've done as well.
(5) A story with an interesting-sounding premise but it's written so badly that I couldn't continue.
(6) A story where the A/N recommends that Miranda fans better not read it - I've decided to follow that suggestion.

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You know what's even worse than gratuitous p*rn? Multiple chapters of badly-written gratuitous p*rn that isn't even that erotic. And for whatever reason, that describes most Miranda/FemShep I've found/ I'm not a prude, but I do have certain standards. Miranda/MaleShep seems to try too hard to make them conventional, with Miranda often losing her independence. My favorite story is actually Miranda/TIM. There are others that I read when I start feeling like the worst author in the world.

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Ieldra2 wrote...


BTW, I just read a fanfic (better left unlinked) - does anyone know how someone could get the idea to describe Miranda as "skinny"?


Not at all.  Mirands is long, lean, fit and athletic looking.  There's a big difference between being lean and fit and being skinny.  Just look at her, (especially in the white outfit) the woman has hips (and I mean that in a good way).

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I did think about not buying it. Well, I will, it's a DLC with a story after all, but some time they'll make me think "I might not be buying this" one time too many.

BTW, I just read a fanfic (better left unlinked) - does anyone know how someone could get the idea to describe Miranda as "skinny"?
And: Is the majority of fanfic readers addicted to romance regardless of quality? The reviews I'm reading, I'm puzzled.


I wouldn't even describe Miranda as lean. She's somewhat athletic but she's far too curvaceous to use adjectives like "lean". I've used "lithe" but even that was a stretch. Skinny? Give me a break. It's about the last adjective I'd use to describe Miranda's physical appearance. It's inaccurate and frankly not all that appealing or interesting.

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jtav wrote...
Is it just me or is there a shortage of even decent Miranda-fic?

I
wouldn't know, having no other set of fanfic to compare. But I just
found randomly browsing Miranda fanfic isn't a good idea. I got:

(1) A story with gratuitous and pointless p*rn.
(2) A story with a completely unexplained reconciliation between Miranda and her father.
(3)
A story where it's mentioned in passing that Garrus and Tali have a
child and Miranda and Shepard have a completely conventional love
life. 
(4) A story that's actually a decently-written erotic
comedy, all the more funny because it doesn't take itself seriously,
but Miranda is completely OOC and any other woman would've done as well.
(5) A story with an interesting-sounding premise but it's written so badly that I couldn't continue.
(6) A story where the A/N recommends that Miranda fans better not read it - I've decided to follow that suggestion.


I think I've actually read a few of these (or more accurately skimmed and put down). What kills me about a lot of fan fiction out there, not just ME2/Miranda fan fiction but fan fiction in general, is that most of it doesn't even look like it's been read over by the author before posting. Grammatical mistakes, typos, misspellings, etc. drive me crazy because too often they're so frequent as to completely break up the flow of the writing. That's before we get into plot inconsistencies and stilted dialogue. Finding good fan fiction out there for any fandom is like navigating a minefield.

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I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to misspellings because I have a problem there myself. What I have trouble with is the poor characterization in the name of romance and the undercurrent of "put the **** in her place." I want to read about Miranda. Please let me know if I ever get as bad as some of these authors.

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I hate technical issues like misspelling because they're so easily rectified. Every word processor has a spellcheck and there's a lot of people out there willing to beta your writing for free - you just have to ask. One or two technical issues is tolerable but when it gets to the point where it noticeably disrupts the flow of the writing, I put it down. I can make some allowances for the fact that a lot of writers aren't native English speakers, but a decent beta should be able to pick up on most issues.

Excessive technical issues tell me that the writer doesn't care enough to polish their piece before uploading it. If they don't even have the patience to use a spellcheck or get a second set of eyes to look over it, chances are they don't have the patience for proper plot development or characterization.

jtav wrote...

I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to
misspellings because I have a problem there myself. What I have trouble
with is the poor characterization in the name of romance and the
undercurrent of "put the **** in her place." I want to read about
Miranda. Please let me know if I ever get as bad as some of these
authors.


I guess Miranda's initial attitude really p*sses a lot of people off. I actually really like it. It's one of the things I like most about the character. In the fic I'm working on right now I'm planning to extend that iciness to varying degrees all the way up to Horizon.

I find in well-written (or at least decently-written) fics featuring Miranda, the author seems to realize that Miranda can't be someone broken to Shepard's (or the author's) will. You have to either take her as she is and write the romance around that or completely leave romance out of it because Miranda's independence is such a key part of her personality that doing otherwise turns her into an entirely different character.

Modifié par fongiel24, 04 septembre 2010 - 07:43 .


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Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

BioWare's official response says the DLC packs are about certain characters, so the teammates are peripheral in those instances, but more likely it's because hauling in 13 voice actors to record brief snippets is quite a hassle.


So Miranda won't say a word during the DLC, despite everything that happened during Redemption.
It's ridiculous. <_<

I understand why they're doing it - but I highly resent that they're not honest in their given reasons. We've had team member comments on others' loyalty missions, so that line of "reasoning", if you can call it that, falls flat on its face. Everyone knows anyway, so why do they stick to this ridiculous propaganda piece?


hm i'm not surprised by now, but still disappointed - if it's such an important dlc, you'd have thought they could get at least most people back to say a few lines and make it worthwhile...

anyway a few more pics, firstup legion's loyalty mission:
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As long as I'm complaining about fanfic, what do I have to do to get decent romance fic where Miranda is paired with someone other than Shep? Write it myself?

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Just write Shepard well, you lazy cowards! Then you wouldn't have to pair her with pre-written characters that take no originality to write whatsoever!



Grr! Argh! This has been your daily visit from Nightwriter the Salty Sea Pirate!

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i have quite a few shots from the actual romance scene, but am undecided whether to post or not - mainly because a lot have been seen already...

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Nightwriter wrote...

Just write Shepard well, you lazy cowards! Then you wouldn't have to pair her with pre-written characters that take no originality to write whatsoever!

Grr! Argh! This has been your daily visit from Nightwriter the Salty Sea Pirate!


her?! :blink:

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"Her" as in Miranda.

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Night, I sincerely hope you didn't mean that. I have tried writing Shepard/Miranda. I habe no fun writing Shepard/Miranda. I have mire fun writing the "pre-written" characters because they're what interest me and made me want to write ME fic in the first place. Fleshing out the bones given by canon does take skill. And I can and do write original fiction, with original characters.

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Nightwriter wrote...

"Her" as in Miranda.


ah. that's better - i find FS/Miranda a completely odd seemingly wished-for-pairing.