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[Elyvern]

Not having biotic implants would be like throwing a hammer away because you think your fist can do the job.

I like the premise of your story so far jtav although if it's going to be eventually a Miri/Liara story, all I want to say right now is poor Shepard! But I guess it's high time he gets the short end of the stick what with all the women in the game falling at his feet and all. Are you going to explore their 3-way conflict? 

[jtav]

To a degree, Elyvern, though Shepard spends this story as a corpse, and Liara will have mostly moved on by the time he returns, and he...doesn't approve of her personality shift. He liked playing the white knight to ME Liara. Good thing Tali's around. Miranda isn't interested in Shep to begin with. And Shep's a Paragon Sole Survivor. They don't really get along.

Modifié par jtav, 18 septembre 2010 - 02:10 .

[Caihn]

Romance scene wallpaper :

[LuxDragon]

jtav wrote...

Thanks for the comments. I've replaced SI with an invented company and drastically narrowed the range of the omni-tool.

And Miranda has implants. She's a powerful biotic, but it would be virtually impossible to "code in" biotics because humans don't naturally have the ability.

Actually, asari need implants as well.

[Lord Ed1]

LuxDragon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Thanks for the comments. I've replaced SI with an invented company and drastically narrowed the range of the omni-tool.

And Miranda has implants. She's a powerful biotic, but it would be virtually impossible to "code in" biotics because humans don't naturally have the ability.

Actually, asari need implants as well.

No they don't.. at least I didn't think so (forgive me if I'm wrong). I remember some asari saying every asari has biotic powers. Thus, it would seem logical they are born with it.

Modifié par Lord Ed1, 18 septembre 2010 - 07:22 .

[LuxDragon]

They are born with the potential to use biotics. Not every asari chooses to train how to use biotics though.
What Amps do weaponize all biotic abilities. Not just asari, but all races. It's why humans can use asari made biotic amps in ME 1. Even asari need it to make their biotics effective.
What makes them different is that if asari want to be in the military, they have to undergo biotic training as a requirement.

Modifié par LuxDragon, 18 septembre 2010 - 08:05 .

[Ieldra]

Lord Ed1 wrote...

LuxDragon wrote...

jtav wrote...

Thanks for the comments. I've replaced SI with an invented company and drastically narrowed the range of the omni-tool.

And Miranda has implants. She's a powerful biotic, but it would be virtually impossible to "code in" biotics because humans don't naturally have the ability.

Actually, asari need implants as well.

No they don't.. at least I didn't think so (forgive me if I'm wrong). I remember some asari saying every asari has biotic powers. Thus, it would seem logical they are born with it.

Yes, but the implants act as amplifiers. Without them, a biotic wouldn't be able to move more than a teacup. I don't know the canonical answer, but it could be argued that asari also need implants. They just have the eezo nodules in the brain by nature. Which, btw, suggests that eezo is a part of Thessia's natural environment and that asari must eat food enriched with eezo if they live somewhere else.

[Ieldra]

Two items regarding my Miranda fanfic "Masks and Mirrors":



(1) I need some suggestions about why Miranda and Shepard, if they've met in 2176, don't recognize each other immediately in 2185. So far I have for the 2176 meeting: cover IDs, changed eye color, most of the time they can see only half of each other's faces (if that), and where not, it's in unfavorable lighting. Any more suggestions? Do I need more? (these spoilers could be deduced from the excerpt, so they aren't really spoilers any more)



(2) Does anyone know a good source for names of items of 18th century clothing?

[Steel Dancer]

Ieldra2 wrote...
(1) I need some suggestions about why Miranda and Shepard, if they've met in 2176, don't recognize each other immediately in 2185. So far I have for the 2176 meeting: cover IDs, changed eye color, most of the time they can see only half of each other's faces (if that), and where not, it's in unfavorable lighting. Any more suggestions?

*drops out of occasional observer mode*

Voice modulators? Things like that would be pretty advanced by then, would be a safe guess.

*recloaks*

[jtav]

Also, how memorable was the mission for them? It's been almost ten years, and I doubt Miranda remembers every single mark. Details may have faded.

[LuxDragon]

On the other hand, both people are memberable. They might leave a lasting impression on each other if given the chance.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Also, how memorable was the mission for them? It's been almost ten years, and I doubt Miranda remembers every single mark. Details may have faded.

The main problem is Shepard not recognizing Miranda. Shepard has aged 10 years and loses all his hair in between (from shoulder-length black to bald), and some scars in the Lazarus process, and would have been one of the more interesting encounters in Miranda's career, but certainly not unique, except in a very minor and easily forgotten way (no spoilers, heh). Miranda, however, is someone you don't easily forget, especially if the meeting isn't exactly casual, even if the personality she acts out as her cover ID is noticeably different from Miranda at the start of ME2, personality-wise.

Hmm. Ten years. Maybe I've done enough.

@Steel Dancer: 
Voices aren't really a problem after 10 years. Also voice modulators would have to be built-in, which would cause several problems. Even so, thanks for the suggestion.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 18 septembre 2010 - 09:37 .

[Elyvern]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Also, how memorable was the mission for them? It's been almost ten years, and I doubt Miranda remembers every single mark. Details may have faded.

The main problem is Shepard not recognizing Miranda. Shepard has aged 10 years and loses all his hair in between (from shoulder-length black to bald), and some scars in the Lazarus process, and would have been one of the more interesting encounters in Miranda's career, but certainly not unique, except in a very minor and easily forgotten way (no spoilers, heh). Miranda, however, is someone you don't easily forget, especially if the meeting isn't exactly casual, even if the personality she acts out as her cover ID is noticeably different from Miranda at the start of ME2, personality-wise.

Hmm. Ten years. Maybe I've done enough.

@Steel Dancer: 
Voices aren't really a problem after 10 years. Also voice modulators would have to be built-in, which would cause several problems. Even so, thanks for the suggestion.

How about having Shepard lose most or part of that memory during Cerberus's reconstruction of him? Although given that your narrative will be set in the past, you may or may not be able to include this reasoning into the story. Maybe as an author's note? 

Last post before I head off to catch my flight. Many happy discussions, hope to find a lot to catch up to when I get back.

Modifié par Elyvern, 18 septembre 2010 - 10:14 .

[Ieldra]

Elyvern wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
Also, how memorable was the mission for them? It's been almost ten years, and I doubt Miranda remembers every single mark. Details may have faded.

The main problem is Shepard not recognizing Miranda. Shepard has aged 10 years and loses all his hair in between (from shoulder-length black to bald), and some scars in the Lazarus process, and would have been one of the more interesting encounters in Miranda's career, but certainly not unique, except in a very minor and easily forgotten way (no spoilers, heh). Miranda, however, is someone you don't easily forget, especially if the meeting isn't exactly casual, even if the personality she acts out as her cover ID is noticeably different from Miranda at the start of ME2, personality-wise.

Hmm. Ten years. Maybe I've done enough.

@Steel Dancer: 
Voices aren't really a problem after 10 years. Also voice modulators would have to be built-in, which would cause several problems. Even so, thanks for the suggestion.

How about having Shepard lose most or part of that memory during Cerberus's reconstruction of him? Although given that your narrative will be set in the past, you may or may not be able to include this reasoning into the story. Maybe as an author's note?

That's exactly what I'd like to avoid. Feels like a cop-out.

[t3HPrO]

@Ieldra2



I like Promethean Legacy, but one thing I found odd was that Miri's father put her through combat training. He created her to take over his business empire and not for anything else, so putting her through combat training doesn't make sense. Self defense classes? Likely. Combat training? Kinda illogical. Just my 2 bucks worth anyways.

[jtav]

If Miranda does return in ME3, I'd like a proper friendship path with her. My FemShep is keenly aware of the lack of dialogue. Throw me a bone, Bioware. Just because I don't want to sleep wit her doesn't mean I don't like her. And, no, I don't want to romance her with my FemShep. I woukd have liked it in ME2, but it would just feel like a bad recon now.

[ClayS_M4Part2]

where I can find pics of Miranda and Shepard??

[LuxDragon]

The first page perhaps? Links are usually posted there semi-frequently.

[Ieldra]

t3HPrO wrote...
@Ieldra2

I like Promethean Legacy, but one thing I found odd was that Miri's father put her through combat training. He created her to take over his business empire and not for anything else, so putting her through combat training doesn't make sense. Self defense classes? Likely. Combat training? Kinda illogical. Just my 2 bucks worth anyways.

No, her father didn't put her through combat training, he only didn't prevent her from choosing something combat-oriented as a way of staying in shape physically. Quote from chapter 1:

"[...]she was expected to always keep at peak health, but she didn't mind. She had opted for martial arts and bribed one of the security guards to teach her the less formal styles used by the real professionals."

Modifié par Ieldra2, 19 septembre 2010 - 08:15 .

[Ieldra]

ClayS_M4Part2 wrote...

where I can find pics of Miranda and Shepard??

The OP of this thread has several links to Miranda pictures. Yankee's screenshot collection is the most extensive as far as I recall. You can also access my own collection by starting with http://www.ieldra.eu.../Miranda002.jpg and incrementing the 002 until you get to 153. I've never bothered to make an album of them. Most of them are of Miranda without Shepard, though.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
If Miranda does return in ME3, I'd like a proper friendship path with her. My FemShep is keenly aware of the lack of dialogue. Throw me a bone, Bioware. Just because I don't want to sleep wit her doesn't mean I don't like her. And, no, I don't want to romance her with my FemShep. I woukd have liked it in ME2, but it would just feel like a bad recon now.

Subscribed 100%. Do it, Bioware!

[Arijharn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
If Miranda does return in ME3, I'd like a proper friendship path with her. My FemShep is keenly aware of the lack of dialogue. Throw me a bone, Bioware. Just because I don't want to sleep wit her doesn't mean I don't like her. And, no, I don't want to romance her with my FemShep. I woukd have liked it in ME2, but it would just feel like a bad recon now.

Subscribed 100%. Do it, Bioware!

I agree, it was like this for Garrus for me. In fact, it felt like there wasn't really that much dialogue at all on the ship with your crewmates. I don't want them to talk my ear off or anything, but it just felt so empty with what they do say vs how much I guess.

[jtav]

While we're at it, can we get more banter, both between squadmates and things like the car chase in LotSB? I more or less play these games for the part members.



Has it ever struck anyone how little we know about Miranda? We can extrapolate a good bit, but the game doesn't give a lot of details about her past or her work with Cerberus. On the one hand, I want to know more. On the other, I like having the freedom to invent things from whole cloth.

[Arijharn]

jtav wrote...

While we're at it, can we get more banter, both between squadmates and things like the car chase in LotSB? I more or less play these games for the part members.

Has it ever struck anyone how little we know about Miranda? We can extrapolate a good bit, but the game doesn't give a lot of details about her past or her work with Cerberus. On the one hand, I want to know more. On the other, I like having the freedom to invent things from whole cloth.

I like to know a lot more about all the squadmates tbh, even Jack who I dislike quite a bit.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
While we're at it, can we get more banter, both between squadmates and things like the car chase in LotSB? I more or less play these games for the part members.

More banter, yes. The car chase, I don't know. I found it difficult and needed three tries to get it right. Though it was a nice change from the usual gameplay.

Has it ever struck anyone how little we know about Miranda? We can extrapolate a good bit, but the game doesn't give a lot of details about her past or her work with Cerberus. On the one hand, I want to know more. On the other, I like having the freedom to invent things from whole cloth.

At this point, I wouldn't like Bioware to detail anything that would render my fanfic non-canonical. I've said in the past that I want her to deal with her father in ME3, but I've changed my mind. Now I find it far more important that she deals with the ghost of her father she's carrying around in her mind. That's important for her to come to terms with herself.
It wouldn't hurt, though, to have more details of her work with Cerberus. Nineteen years of working for them, there must be some character-defining moments in them. As I see it, working for Cerberus set her free physically, but reinforced her self-perception as a tool, the foundation of which she was bringing along as ballast from her youth. TIM would not hesitate to do exactly that in order to keep her loyal, and he's master manipulator enough to pull it off.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 19 septembre 2010 - 01:54 .