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[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...

Arijharn wrote...

True, but a little bit of mystery builds attraction.

There is a difference between being mysterious, and acting like a jerk.

Now you're overdramatizing things. That line may not be your preferred response, and I recognize why, but Shepard's not a jerk in that conversation.

[Caihn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

Arijharn wrote...

True, but a little bit of mystery builds attraction.

There is a difference between being mysterious, and acting like a jerk.

Now you're overdramatizing things. That line may not be your preferred response, and I recognize why, but Shepard's not a jerk in that conversation.

Sorry, but I have no respect for a guy who would tell something like that to Miranda at that particular moment.

[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

Arijharn wrote...

True, but a little bit of mystery builds attraction.

There is a difference between being mysterious, and acting like a jerk.

Now you're overdramatizing things. That line may not be your preferred response, and I recognize why, but Shepard's not a jerk in that conversation.

Sorry, but I have no respect for a guy who would tell something like that to Miranda at that particular moment.

Reminder: this is not meant to be taken seriously, and it isn't taken seriously. You make too much of things. For me, this light response, coming right after "I care about you, Miranda", is going a step back, telling her she's free to interpret things as not going too deep if she prefers, but he'd rather have it otherwise (as he said before). It gives her the freedom to make her decision based on how she feels herself, without any influence by Shepard, while the other response builds pressure to accept what he and she feel.

[Caihn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

Arijharn wrote...

True, but a little bit of mystery builds attraction.

There is a difference between being mysterious, and acting like a jerk.

Now you're overdramatizing things. That line may not be your preferred response, and I recognize why, but Shepard's not a jerk in that conversation.

Sorry, but I have no respect for a guy who would tell something like that to Miranda at that particular moment.

Reminder: this is not meant to be taken seriously, and it isn't taken seriously. You make too much of things. For me, this light response, coming right after "I care about you, Miranda", is going a step back, telling her she's free to interpret things as not going too deep if she prefers, but he'd rather have it otherwise (as he said before). It gives her the freedom to make her decision based on how she feels herself, without any influence by Shepard, while the other response builds pressure to accept what he and she feel.

It's Miranda who first talk about love. Shepard knows she wouldn't use this word if she doesn't want a deep relationship with him. Miranda shows her emotions and it's not something she do easily, Shepard should do the same. Talking about his feelings doesn't mean he's putting pressure on her. She's free to decide, but I think she deserves to know what he feels for her.
I wouldn't mind if he did this kind of joke before, but not when Miri shows emotional vulnerability. I think it's absolutely stupid.

Modifié par Yannkee, 25 septembre 2010 - 12:11 .

[Caihn]

A beautiful fanart I've just found :






http://yatenkou.devi...awson-180433479

[Aedan1992]

 Damm how do people do that:wub:

[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...

A beautiful fanart I've just found :






http://yatenkou.devi...awson-180433479

One of those fan arts you can't stop looking at. I envy the people who can do such things.

[Jebel Krong]

That's some amazing fanart there! Thanks.

[jtav]

I prefer "Love?" for the last conversation. Meer's delivery is too flat on the other line. It doesn't sound like he means it. My favorite is the "Friends?" line. If that had led to one or both of you breaking down before the suicide mission and deciding that you didn't want to wait, we might have had something I liked. The romance isn't to my taste. Nothing wrong with that.

[Arijharn]

All the LI options are pathetic though if they aren't romanced. In ME1 it seemed as if Garrus was always ready for some conversation whereas in ME2 he's always (bloody) calibrating.



I thought the Love? line was, in addition to everything else I've said about it was actually pretty damn flirty as well that was a sly but gently persuasive for things to progress.



And, because the whole cheeky,cocky routine works in the real life, it's all that more poignant. Does anyone actually say "I love you" to a woman they have only known for a couple of months and then have a successful relationship with them? I'm going to guess; it's exceptionally rare if it does.

[jtav]

Miranda is actually still pretty talkative even if you don't romance her. All the character moments that made me fall in love with her are not romance-exclusive. I can have everything I love about her and still romance someone else. I feel she comes off better if you don't romance her.

[Jebel Krong]

Ieldra2 wrote...

@Jebel Krong:
Don't make the mistake of mixing up the conversations. The kiss and "stop smiling, damn it" is in conversation 3, "Who said anything about love?" in conversation 4. I've made that mistake often, unfortunately. In intro to the kiss is "You're jealous", which isn't really something I prefer to the alternative but choose it because it leads to the options I favor.

ah yes - actually i like the teasing too - again, very natural. one of the reason's Miranda's romance works so well for me is the natural flow to them, especially (and unusually) with the renegade conversation options.

[Caihn]

jtav wrote...

Miranda is actually still pretty talkative even if you don't romance her. All the character moments that made me fall in love with her are not romance-exclusive. I can have everything I love about her and still romance someone else. I feel she comes off better if you don't romance her.

Miranda would remain my favorite character if Shepard didn't romance her, but I would miss one of the most interesting part of her character. I prefer Miranda when Shepard romance her, it shows an another side of her character, one I really like.


They are just perfect for each other, and no other LI could fit for my Shepard.
My Shepard can't be with someone else.

Modifié par Yannkee, 25 septembre 2010 - 01:57 .

[Arijharn]

So, supposing you're developing Miranda for ME3 (i.e., writing her) what sort of things would you do to her to make her a richer character and why? This can include romance or friendship progression.

[enayasoul]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

@Jebel Krong:
Don't make the mistake of mixing up the conversations. The kiss and "stop smiling, damn it" is in conversation 3, "Who said anything about love?" in conversation 4. I've made that mistake often, unfortunately. In intro to the kiss is "You're jealous", which isn't really something I prefer to the alternative but choose it because it leads to the options I favor.

ah yes - actually i like the teasing too - again, very natural. one of the reason's Miranda's romance works so well for me is the natural flow to them, especially (and unusually) with the renegade conversation options.

Oh I loved that scene... "Stop smiling, damn it." hahaha.  

I think Shepard has a sense of humour and it works for the regenage playthrough... Last night I just finished the part where they get the krogan "Grunt" from the Blue Sun's base...  In the communication center, my Shepard was being funny with Miranda's concerns.   The option... we will just jet him out the airlock... and when she says what if somone is down there..." He still has that look as if he is joking to me... he asks EDI how many more people we have on Normandy.  I thought it was funny...   other playthroughs, i said we will be careful.

When my Shepard converses with the injured blue sun and saying his injury was worse than it really was. Miranda liked it. "Nice touch."  He replies:  I thought so. 

Jack's cracks me up when I told Miranda to give jack the files. "Hear that precious..." ROFL.... I then reloaded and denied Jack the files. he he.  

God, I love this game!

Modifié par enayasoul, 25 septembre 2010 - 02:21 .

[Caihn]

Arijharn wrote...

So, supposing you're developing Miranda for ME3 (i.e., writing her) what sort of things would you do to her to make her a richer character and why? This can include romance or friendship progression.

I would give more informations about her past, when she was working for Cerberus and before.
And also more personal informations about her, but this should be only available for those who romanced her.

Modifié par Yannkee, 25 septembre 2010 - 02:23 .

[jtav]

Assuming Miranda is a squad mate, I'd focus her development on her struggles to define herself without Cerberus. Even in a Renegade game, she's lost faith in them. I'd include more emails to Oriana and others, something to show she's opening up a bit more and creating a family of her own. Resources permitting, I'd include a mission where she has to head back home and talks a bit more about her past.



Yankee, we've established I'm a bit of an oddball. I eat up Thane's and Liara's romance. Most of you don't. Miranda's romance doesn't appeal to me. It was never designed to. I still like her.

[t3HPrO]

mjakims wrote...

Sry Miranda is such a B want to slap her and forget her, not worth the effort.

Hang on guys and girl, I got this! I got this!



Yipeekayee, you motherf**king talitroll.

[Ieldra]

Arijharn wrote...
So, supposing you're developing Miranda for ME3 (i.e., writing her) what sort of things would you do to her to make her a richer character and why? This can include romance or friendship progression.

I'd focus on her coming to terms with her origins, dealing with the ghost of her father she carries around in her mind and possibly even the real man, and making her recognize that she's not a freak of nature, but in fact, an entirely human woman regardless of her origins. That's appropriate for a romance-specific development, I think.

For a romance-independent development, I'd like her to deal with her Cerberus loyalty one way or the other. Making her take TIM's place in a somewhat "reformed" Cerberus would be one option within that path. I'd also like her to keep contact with Oriana, but apart from that wouldn't introduce more family matters.    

Modifié par Ieldra2, 25 septembre 2010 - 03:11 .

[jtav]

I agree, though the selfish part of me would like to bolster her self-esteem at least a little even without romancing her. Can't have everything, I guess.

[t3HPrO]

Oh dammit now I'm addicted to using the 1337speak option for my forum language. I must be going bonkers.

[Aedan1992]

Modifié par Aedan1992, 25 septembre 2010 - 03:33 .

[Aedan1992]

Yannkee wrote...
They are just perfect for each other, and no other LI could fit for my Shepard.

They not only perfect for each other. They are made for each other. 

[jtav]

I wonder how much of my not thinking they are made for each other/shipping her elsewhere is because I'm a girl and how much is me just being strange. I do like Tali and Jack's even less.

[t3HPrO]

Miri and Shepard...a match made in heaven. I love them, and a close second would be Ash&Shep.