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[hooahguy]

Elyvern wrote...

2: Which leads to the possibility that she would become plot-crucial like Liara becoming the SB and thus will not be a part of Shepard's squad. Taking over the Cerberus machine should TIM be dispatched earlier seems like an obvious one. This is one I'm conflicted over, even though I do like the idea that her character involvement would be far more pivotal to the story than just being a swappable grunt in Shepard's team.

I could potentially see her as overthrowing TIM, but then largly remove herself from the game like Liara did? Seems unlikely. And t he fact that she is an LI makes it even less of a chance of this. I actually think Liara will rejoin the squad for ME3 for that very reason, that an LI wont go away for the closing episode.

[Ieldra]

Elyvern wrote...
1. I'd say her resignation if you choose to destroy the base is definitely one of them, since that really felt heavy-handed. Even if she doesn't should you keep it, a showdown with Cerberus seems likely, given that Liara as SB is a very good replacement to TIM being Shepard's information machine.

Yes. In some way, LotSB makes Cerberus surplus to requirements. I wonder if Liara will have an agent on the Cerberus team examining the Collector base if you keep it. As for Miranda, how will things work out if she doesn't resign? That path concerns me more...

2: Which leads to the possibility that she would become plot-crucial like Liara becoming the SB and thus will not be a part of Shepard's squad. Taking over the Cerberus machine should TIM be dispatched earlier seems like an obvious one. This is one I'm conflicted over, even though I do like the idea that her character involvement would be far more pivotal to the story than just being a swappable grunt in Shepard's team.

If the amount of interaction and general sceen presence is high enough, I could live with not having her in my team. Unfortunately, it's not so easy maintaning screen presence if you aren't part of the team. I recall I have been arguing vehementy for not promoting a non-team role for her exactly because I think this will lessen her screen presence and character interaction with her. I think the best would be both: at some time, we help Miranda with Cerberus in a mission. Before that, she's part of the team, after that she leaves the team. From that time, she can be interacted with but her actions are prescribed by the story, possibly modified by one or the other plot decision.

3. Romantic conflict with an earlier LI is another given. Although I wonder how much exposure it will be given. 1 confrontation scene where Shepard has to choose and then never addressed again? Sounds like a letdown really.

I'd like to have this plot-relevant, though I can't see how they'd be able to write that with so many combinations. Mostly, I don't really care, because most of my Shepards don't have more than one LI over the course of the game.

4. Personally, I feel her infertility issue is another one of those screaming signposts. As bonus material for more character-definition moments, it feels unusually heavy-handed especially when it can actually affect the LI conclusion.

I wonder. If I hear nothing about it in ME3, then I can make my own version of how things turn out. At this point, I'm so pessimistic about that that I'd rather hear nothing, because I don't trust Bioware to give that problem a satisfying solution. Adoption, indeed (imagine facepalm emoticon).

5. Elaborations about what her father meant by dynasty is another one of those niggling things for me, but to imagine that we would get an elaborated in-game session seems unlikely since ME3 should be about reapers already and not more personal issues. There's also the bias accusation that Miranda cannot be singled out for perferential treatment unless her father is shown to be crucial plot-wise.

I don't think he'll be, thus I don't think we'll get much background information about him. He needn't be present as a character, for Miranda must primarily excorcise the ghost of him she carries around in her head.

[Jebel Krong]

Elyvern wrote...

We should make a prediction mini-project, based on all our speculations, arguments for and against, and evidence that's been dribbled to us and how likely certain topics and outcomes will be explored in ME3 about Miranda.

1. I'd say her resignation if you choose to destroy the base is definitely one of them, since that really felt heavy-handed. Even if she doesn't should you keep it, a showdown with Cerberus seems likely, given that Liara as SB is a very good replacement to TIM being Shepard's information machine.

2: Which leads to the possibility that she would become plot-crucial like Liara becoming the SB and thus will not be a part of Shepard's squad. Taking over the Cerberus machine should TIM be dispatched earlier seems like an obvious one. This is one I'm conflicted over, even though I do like the idea that her character involvement would be far more pivotal to the story than just being a swappable grunt in Shepard's team.

3. Romantic conflict with an earlier LI is another given. Although I wonder how much exposure it will be given. 1 confrontation scene where Shepard has to choose and then never addressed again? Sounds like a letdown really.

4. Personally, I feel her infertility issue is another one of those screaming signposts. As bonus material for more character-definition moments, it feels unusually heavy-handed especially when it can actually affect the LI conclusion. 

5. Elaborations about what her father meant by dynasty is another one of those niggling things for me, but to imagine that we would get an elaborated in-game session seems unlikely since ME3 should be about reapers already and not more personal issues. There's also the bias accusation that Miranda cannot be singled out for perferential treatment unless her father is shown to be crucial plot-wise.

Any others I missed out? What are your opinions?

1. agreed.
2. possibly, though i don't think TIM will be discarded so early (cerberus may well form the basis for N7 missions again).
3. i doubt it will be more than 1 scene if that - it'll just ****** off fanbases.
4. i sincerely hope not - and that goes for anything in those stupid dossiers.
5. i would hope so, but is it too far removed from the core concept? people already complain about the loyalty missions in mass effect 2 not connecting to the core plot enough (not a viewpoint i subscribe to a all btw). however that would be one hell of a side-plot to explore, especially if her father turns out to be as powerful and influential as hinted at.

i will be happy as long as miranda makes a significant appearance during the game (squaddie or not), we get to progress our relationship & more romance scenes.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 18 octobre 2010 - 01:36 .

[enayasoul]

Elyvern wrote...

We should make a prediction mini-project, based on all our speculations, arguments for and against, and evidence that's been dribbled to us and how likely certain topics and outcomes will be explored in ME3 about Miranda.

1. I'd say her resignation if you choose to destroy the base is definitely one of them, since that really felt heavy-handed. Even if she doesn't should you keep it, a showdown with Cerberus seems likely, given that Liara as SB is a very good replacement to TIM being Shepard's information machine.

2: Which leads to the possibility that she would become plot-crucial like Liara becoming the SB and thus will not be a part of Shepard's squad. Taking over the Cerberus machine should TIM be dispatched earlier seems like an obvious one. This is one I'm conflicted over, even though I do like the idea that her character involvement would be far more pivotal to the story than just being a swappable grunt in Shepard's team.

3. Romantic conflict with an earlier LI is another given. Although I wonder how much exposure it will be given. 1 confrontation scene where Shepard has to choose and then never addressed again? Sounds like a letdown really.

4. Personally, I feel her infertility issue is another one of those screaming signposts. As bonus material for more character-definition moments, it feels unusually heavy-handed especially when it can actually affect the LI conclusion. 

5. Elaborations about what her father meant by dynasty is another one of those niggling things for me, but to imagine that we would get an elaborated in-game session seems unlikely since ME3 should be about reapers already and not more personal issues. There's also the bias accusation that Miranda cannot be singled out for perferential treatment unless her father is shown to be crucial plot-wise.

Any others I missed out? What are your opinions?

I agree.  I had no problems with Miranda telling Tim to shove it.  When my shep blew up the base.  
I was actually relieved she didn't shoot my shepard in the back.  I would have hated to kill her.   I think there are hints along the way that suggest that she may be getting swayed.  The trap Tim layed out with the collector base.  She seemed a little taken back by my shep comment about him not trusting Tim... etc.  but she does say there has to be a reason why.   I usually bring her along on nearly all the missions just to see what she has to say about certain situations. But other times I bring out just the boys.

Or maybe it's just me... but all of the above are also what I'd like to see explored.  And I definitely want her to deal with her father once and for all.  Deal with Tim too. I think Tim losing Miranda would put a cripple in Cerberus...

The love interest with Ash/myshep/Miranda could be very "explosive" time will tell if anything comes of it.  Or not. My shep might have moved on by then and be happy with Miranda.

Modifié par enayasoul, 18 octobre 2010 - 01:35 .

[Elyvern]

hooahguy wrote...

Elyvern wrote...

2: Which leads to the possibility that she would become plot-crucial like Liara becoming the SB and thus will not be a part of Shepard's squad. Taking over the Cerberus machine should TIM be dispatched earlier seems like an obvious one. This is one I'm conflicted over, even though I do like the idea that her character involvement would be far more pivotal to the story than just being a swappable grunt in Shepard's team.

I could potentially see her as overthrowing TIM, but then largly remove herself from the game like Liara did? Seems unlikely. And t he fact that she is an LI makes it even less of a chance of this. I actually think Liara will rejoin the squad for ME3 for that very reason, that an LI wont go away for the closing episode.

Admit it, most most of the interaction with squadmates does not come from combat missions, but rather when you interact with them on board the Normandy. What if Miranda isn't a squadmate, but you can go to where she's stationed at, and be presented with a number of different conversations based on your number of visits, or the events happening in-game? How would that be any different from what takes place now? Why would that diminish the possibility even if she's a LI? And the LI resolution can still be addressed after the final fight with the reapers is over, it doesn't require the LI to be in your squad at the last mission.

I agree with Ieldra that what'll happen is we'll likely see less screen time with her, and probably lose some character delineation moments when she expresses her views at particular combat missions. A combination of both to so we get more Miranda time + making her an important and powerful figure (it's hubris to assume Shepard can win the war alone, and something like this would promote Miranda's independence and her status as Shepard's peer even more) in the reaper war would be the best.

Modifié par Elyvern, 18 octobre 2010 - 02:01 .

[hooahguy]

And be another Liara? The conversations with Liara were very limited while she was on Illium, I dont think, and I really hope, that Bioware will take this road with someone like Miri.

And by the way we also have to take into account that some people dont have LotSB, so we have yet to find out how that is implemented in ME3.

Modifié par hooahguy, 18 octobre 2010 - 02:09 .

[jtav]

I don't care that much about whether Miranda comes back as a squad member, partly because I consider it unlikely. What keeps me up at night is that she might lose her competence and pragmatism, in favor of making her another character who's nothing without Shep. Wrex's cameo made me like him more, but I liked Garrus less.

[enayasoul]

I think that is what I miss most from me1 how the characters would talk to each other and ask questions. Maybe they do sort of but that is one of the things I enjoyed a lot in Dragon Age. I thought Garrus and Tali asking about the old times with the elevator scene was a nice touch. Of the two characters I think Kelly and Jacob are my least favorite but I have no real complaints they just annoy me.

[Caihn]

jtav wrote...

I don't care that much about whether Miranda comes back as a squad member, partly because I consider it unlikely. What keeps me up at night is that she might lose her competence and pragmatism, in favor of making her another character who's nothing without Shep. Wrex's cameo made me like him more, but I liked Garrus less.

You don't like Shepard/Miranda romance, and you don't care about her to be a squadmate in ME3. I wonder why you are in the "Miranda for romance & squadmate for Mass Effect 3" group.

Modifié par Yannkee, 18 octobre 2010 - 02:22 .

[Elyvern]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyvern wrote...
1. I'd say her resignation if you choose to destroy the base is definitely one of them, since that really felt heavy-handed. Even if she doesn't should you keep it, a showdown with Cerberus seems likely, given that Liara as SB is a very good replacement to TIM being Shepard's information machine.

Yes. In some way, LotSB makes Cerberus surplus to requirements. I wonder if Liara will have an agent on the Cerberus team examining the Collector base if you keep it. As for Miranda, how will things work out if she doesn't resign? That path concerns me more...

Indeed, the only edge Cerberus & TIM has over Liara's information net now is basically info on reaper tech. Personally, I don't see how Shepard, no matter how renegade you play it, can remain on good terms with Cerberus into ME3. A showdown does seem inevitable, even if the outcome is TIM escapes to plot another day, post-reapers if that's what it takes. But it's likely that Cerberus as the organisation we know now will come to an end. I must wonder if Bioware forces players that save the base to sever ties with TIM in ME3, would they simply rehash Miranda breaking away without any internal conflict like in ME2? Or will they realise the faux pas with her OOC-ness at the collector base and try to address it? Or will they even make it more difficult for you to win over her allegiance from Cerberus?

3. Romantic conflict with an earlier LI is another given. Although I wonder how much exposure it will be given. 1 confrontation scene where Shepard has to choose and then never addressed again? Sounds like a letdown really.

I'd like to have this plot-relevant, though I can't see how they'd be able to write that with so many combinations. Mostly, I don't really care, because most of my Shepards don't have more than one LI over the course of the game.

I do wonder about this, considering how many articles quoted Casy Hudson about how this particular consequence will come to bite us in the ass. Maybe plot-relevant in the sense that a spurned LI will act differently towards helping Shepard? Although it would really cast a bad light on any LI to be doing so in a conflict as big as the reapers. Would there be anyway to include bigger consequences without doing so?

5. Elaborations about what her father meant by dynasty is another one of those niggling things for me, but to imagine that we would get an elaborated in-game session seems unlikely since ME3 should be about reapers already and not more personal issues. There's also the bias accusation that Miranda cannot be singled out for perferential treatment unless her father is shown to be crucial plot-wise.

I don't think he'll be, thus I don't think we'll get much background information about him. He needn't be present as a character, for Miranda must primarily excorcise the ghost of him she carries around in her head.

The more I think about it, the more I see it as a comic/novel franchise opportunity. After ME3 is released, there will definitely be a bunch of plot-threads left hanging. And with the outcome of the reaper conflict resolved in-game, there is every opportunity to delve into more personal stories. That way I can see how Miranda's infertility issue can tie to her father's notion of a dynasty. Hell, Bioware already has the best target audience -- people like us!

Modifié par Elyvern, 18 octobre 2010 - 02:56 .

[jtav]

I'd still like it very much, but it's moved from "absolutely necessary" to "Great if it's handled well, but I'm more worried about something else Miranda related." I'd still like her back as a team member. I'm just cynical by nature.

[Elyvern]

hooahguy wrote...

And be another Liara? The conversations with Liara were very limited while she was on Illium, I dont think, and I really hope, that Bioware will take this road with someone like Miri.

And by the way we also have to take into account that some people dont have LotSB, so we have yet to find out how that is implemented in ME3.

Firstly, you don't know that Liara's interactions as a LI with Shepard will not be developed in ME3, even without LotSB in mind.  To your question, I could also say "and be another Wrex?" granted Wrex isn't a LI. Not all squadmates are made equal, and to demand that because one squadmate has a certain amount of screen time, all the rest must, is unrealistic. The LIs being LIs, are justified in getting more screen time. But I can see DLC characters like Zaeed and Kasumi getting less because well, they are DLC-optional. So yes, there will likely be a number of squadmates (especially from ME2) that will end up being cameos with scenario-limited interactions.

Considering that LotSB is bridging plot-threads between ME2 and 3, I think it's likely that even for those that didn't play it, Liara will remain the SB come ME3. For fans of Liara that complain about her lack of screen time and choosing not to buy LotSB-- the onus of blame lies with them. If you like someone that much, you should buy the DLC, that you don't and then complain that you don't see more development in your relationship with her literally leaves you with no legs to stand on in such an argument.  

Modifié par Elyvern, 18 octobre 2010 - 02:44 .

[Jebel Krong]

jtav wrote...

I'd still like it very much, but it's moved from "absolutely necessary" to "Great if it's handled well, but I'm more worried about something else Miranda related." I'd still like her back as a team member. I'm just cynical by nature.

well i don't think they'd pull the ashley/kaiden trick again, but then the ME2 characters were much better than most of the ME1 ones... and the interactions with Wrex (and later, Liara in LoSB) were handled well. i hope we don't have to wait for DLC to have meaty interaction, though.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 18 octobre 2010 - 03:18 .

[Ieldra]

Elyvern wrote...
Considering that LotSB is bridging plot-threads between ME2 and 3, I think it's likely that even for those that didn't play it, Liara will remain the SB come ME3. For fans of Liara that complain about her lack of screen time and choosing not to buy LotSB-- the onus of blame lies with them. If you like someone that much, you should buy the DLC, that you don't and then complain that you don't see more development in your relationship with her literally leaves you with no legs to stand on in such an argument.  

They shouldn't complain in the first place (do they really?). LotSB sets things up so that Liara will likely have very much screen presence in ME3, even though she's likely not a team member except temporarily. Possibly she'll have the role TIM has in ME2. For Miranda, there is no such thing in sight, and our hopeful speculations of her taking over Cerberus don't seem so potentially plot-relevant any more, nor something that could trigger much interaction, now that Liara is the SB.

As for Miranda being harder to win over if we kept the base in ME3, I don't think that will happen. Her loyalty to TIM is shaken whether you keep the base or destroy it. Only if you keep it she doesn't act on it because there would be no point.  

[jtav]

If I had to guess, I'd say Miranda will be either a miserable Cerberus agent (Renegade) or on the run from TIM (Paragon--remember Paul Grayson) when we meet her in ME3. Which would give her motive to rejoin.

[Alessar]

I don't TIM getting removed as Cerberus head any time soon, and thus don't see Miranda becoming a character like Liara or Wrex. There's too much going on for Sheperd for him to get the idea that removing a strong head would be a good idea.



Also I liked Garrus more in ME2, I didn't feel he was a diminished character because of his dependence on Shep. I mean it's been there since ME1 and for me it was just a reminder that your death did actually mess some people up and here is one of them. But enough about that.

[Elyvern]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Elyvern wrote...
Considering that LotSB is bridging plot-threads between ME2 and 3, I think it's likely that even for those that didn't play it, Liara will remain the SB come ME3. For fans of Liara that complain about her lack of screen time and choosing not to buy LotSB-- the onus of blame lies with them. If you like someone that much, you should buy the DLC, that you don't and then complain that you don't see more development in your relationship with her literally leaves you with no legs to stand on in such an argument.  

They shouldn't complain in the first place (do they really?). LotSB sets things up so that Liara will likely have very much screen presence in ME3, even though she's likely not a team member except temporarily. Possibly she'll have the role TIM has in ME2. For Miranda, there is no such thing in sight, and our hopeful speculations of her taking over Cerberus don't seem so potentially plot-relevant any more, nor something that could trigger much interaction, now that Liara is the SB.

My point was made in relation to hooahguy's complaint that Liara has limited interaction on Illium. I agree that we shouldn't have to wait for a DLC to get more time with our favourite characters, but if that's the way it is, then I'll be the first to admit I'm a sucker.

And indeed, my pipe dream for Miranda to take over Cerberus was from before LotSB, and now that seems even more unlikely than ever. Well, I'd stil be happy if she remains a squadmate in ME3, although I honestly think she's mostly wasted as purely a combat operative.

As for Miranda being harder to win over if we kept the base in ME3, I don't think that will happen. Her loyalty to TIM is shaken whether you keep the base or destroy it. Only if you keep it she doesn't act on it because there would be no point.  

Can anyone clarify this for me? I believe there are actually two opportunities for the player to decide if they want to destroy or keep the base, and the Illusive man interjection actually takes place after the first. I can't access the game right now. In my last playthrough, I chose keeping the base at the first opportunity, and I don't recall Miranda saying that betrayal line. if anyone can confirm that for me, it would be great, because it would mean there's a good chance she doesn't even express any doubts at all at the end.  Also, it wouldn't account for players that don't bring Miranda into the final fight still.

Still, I'd like some lampshading acknowledgement come the Ceberus split in ME3 about her lines on resigning and the using the base being a betrayal because as jtav puts it -- we shouldn't need to write mental fanfic.

Modifié par Elyvern, 18 octobre 2010 - 04:19 .

[jtav]

Miranda may still become head of Cerberus, either during ME3 or as an epilogue. I hope the Lazarus Project becomes important again as something other than a reset button. Miranda could prove important in that regard as well.

[Mox Ruuga]

After seeing the way the transfer from ME1 to ME2 worked, I think Miranda will have quit from Cerberus no matter what when we next see her in ME3.

I also don't think she'll be recruitable, but then again I don't think anyone beyond the Virmire Survivor will be. Some of the more popular ones could get the sort of "single mission squaddie" roles Liara had in LotSB, and Miranda has a good chance of being included in that bunch, IMO.

I'm not sure what she'll be doing tho... Working with Liara or whatever the org is that Shepard will join in ME3 is a possibility. I don't see her working for the Alliance, but I doubt Shepard will be rejoining them either.

It will be something related to Reapers though. Perhaps we will find her working undercover somewhere? In the org of some powerful secretly Indoctrinated figure, attempting to get close enough to assassinate him, or to find evidence about whatever plot the Reapers are engaged in?

I don't think the stuff in her LotSB dossier will be brought up, unless it is in whatever sort of epilogue material we get.

[Alessar]

Mox Ruuga wrote...

After seeing the way the transfer from ME1 to ME2 worked, I think Miranda will have quit from Cerberus no matter what when we next see her in ME3.

I also don't think she'll be recruitable, but then again I don't think anyone beyond the Virmire Survivor will be. Some of the more popular ones could get the sort of "single mission squaddie" roles Liara had in LotSB, and Miranda has a good chance of being included in that bunch, IMO.

I'm not sure what she'll be doing tho... Working with Liara or whatever the org is that Shepard will join in ME3 is a possibility. I don't see her working for the Alliance, but I doubt Shepard will be rejoining them either.

It will be something related to Reapers though. Perhaps we will find her working undercover somewhere? In the org of some powerful secretly Indoctrinated figure, attempting to get close enough to assassinate him, or to find evidence about whatever plot the Reapers are engaged in?

I don't think the stuff in her LotSB dossier will be brought up, unless it is in whatever sort of epilogue material we get.

You and I share opposite views on squad members, I think we'll get back most if not all of them. It be a waste of time developing new squad members. The whole bridging ME2 and ME3 with dlc makes me believe that, it becomes a lot harder to get rid of members if you are bridging the two. Also if there is going to be confrontations between LIs from ME1 and ME2 it be lame if neither were on your squad or just one.

Anyways I doubt Miranda becomes head of Cerberus just because I feel the situation is oddly familiar to the Syndicate that Helena Blake said she was going to rework. Cerberus has a reputation tied to it, no matter how hard somebody tries to change it.

[enayasoul]

I have no problem with Miranda working with Liara. I think it would be good. Reliable intel from Liara, Tactical advise from Miranda... They've worked with each other before. I would hope the characters would want to see it to the end. Well I do! Death to the reapers. I think it would be stupid if we had to recruit a new team all over again and not use what we have established >



Anyone think Tim will retaliate against Shepard/Miranda etc... or would he cooperate or disappear with his own agenda?



I think my male shepard will be just fine with his crew mates/friends/allies. He doesn't need Cerberus.

[Elyvern]

Alessar wrote...

You and I share opposite views on squad members, I think we'll get back most if not all of them. It be a waste of time developing new squad members. The whole bridging ME2 and ME3 with dlc makes me believe that, it becomes a lot harder to get rid of members if you are bridging the two. 

 

You raise some interesting points.

My interpretation would be if we can get back most of them, the fact that there is bridging DLC from 2 to 3 would also make it easier to get rid of extraneous characters. LotSB didn't provide that, but you could have the next content DLC where at the end of the mission, characters like Kasumi, Zaeed and Samara approaching you to say they have to leave. In playthroughs where they die, the scene just doesn't take place, but it would still conveniently write them out "canon-ly" in preparation for less headches in ME3.

Also if there is going to be confrontations between LIs from ME1 and ME2 it be lame if neither were on your squad or just one.

This one is true. Short of creating a contrive scenario to bring all 3 parties from wherever they are in the galaxy into the same room, I can't imagine how anything other than that would be a true confrontation befitting the issue.

Anyways I doubt Miranda becomes head of Cerberus just because I feel the situation is oddly familiar to the Syndicate that Helena Blake said she was going to rework. Cerberus has a reputation tied to it, no matter how hard somebody tries to change it. 

This also makes me think if Cerberus and TIM are outed as the "terrorist" organisation the Alliance brands them and their deeds exposed to the galaxy, Miranda will probably have to struggle with the stigma of being seen as an untrustworthy human-supremacist by most legitimate organisations, governments and alien races in the future.

[Alessar]

enayasoul wrote...

I have no problem with Miranda working with Liara. I think it would be good. Reliable intel from Liara, Tactical advise from Miranda... They've worked with each other before. I would hope the characters would want to see it to the end. Well I do! Death to the reapers. I think it would be stupid if we had to recruit a new team all over again and not use what we have established >

Anyone think Tim will retaliate against Shepard/Miranda etc... or would he cooperate or disappear with his own agenda?

I think my male shepard will be just fine with his crew mates/friends/allies. He doesn't need Cerberus.

Tim has no reason to retaliate just because Shep quits. You're still an asset even if you aren't with Cerberus. Tim isn't so short sighted that he'd let his personal feelings get in the way. If you're an asset, you're still useful.

Yeah Ely, they could use it to get rid of members hadn't thought about that. Good point!

Modifié par Alessar, 18 octobre 2010 - 04:53 .

[Nadya2]

my male shep always romance Miranda, no matter if i play paragon or renegade miranda always be the number one choice for him. i liked her way way better than ashley williams.

[AltimusZero]

I don't think Miranda will ever replace TIM. Plus I don't think it would make much sense. Shadow Broker and TIM although similar are different in their presentation. While few saw the Shadow Broker, many saw TIM. Plus TIM is all about presentation; the man has the star that's going to implode soon in the background for a reason. If TIM fell so would Cerberus IMO, I highly doubt Miranda could gain that kind of support and respect. With the Shadow Broker, only a certain number of people will ever know there was ever a switch.

Modifié par AltimusZero, 18 octobre 2010 - 05:27 .