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[sagefic]

 hi all. just wanted to share a fanvid i made for the whole squad. miranda got some of the best music because 1) it fits her and 2) she's awesome.

hope you like: http://bit.ly/me-squad

[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...
I'm still thinking to make a dramatic ending : with two or three survivors. Miranda of course, but I don't know who will be the other lucky survivors.

I did that. I intended to have only Miranda and Jacob left. But the "hold-the-line" survival guide had a mistake, and I  got one more surivor. With Finagle's law being what it is, you can guess who that was...

[jtav]

The trouble is they we're never really shown Miranda being a good leader. She really needed a scene showing off her tactical brilliance.

[Caihn]

sagequeen wrote...

 hi all. just wanted to share a fanvid i made for the whole squad. miranda got some of the best music because 1) it fits her and 2) she's awesome.

hope you like: http://bit.ly/me-squad

Good video.

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
I'm still thinking to make a dramatic ending : with two or three survivors. Miranda of course, but I don't know who will be the other lucky survivors.

I did that. I intended to have only Miranda and Jacob left. But the "hold-the-line" survival guide had a mistake, and I  got one more surivor. With Finagle's law being what it is, you can guess who that was...

Jack ?

I think Legion and Kasumi are good candidates for my other survivors. But I think I will have to recruit Kasumi post SM if I want her to survive.

[enayasoul]

Jebel Krong wrote...

Elyvern wrote...

Definitely Mordin for me. Excerpt time! (This takes place during the reaper war)

She sat down, and gazed at Mordin thoughtfully.

“How do you do it, Mordin? Stay calm in the face of such odds?”

“All ties accounted for. Lived a full life, have no regrets. More fortunate than some.” He looked at her. “Heard anything from Shepard?”

“He said he was going beyond the Perseus Veil to gather the geth forces in his last message.” Her brow furrowed in worry. “That was three weeks ago.”

Mordin reached out to tweak his cranial horn. “Confess, still find human courtship and mating behavior puzzling. Although may explain that tendency for two units to form a basic breeding pair has effect in creating diversity in human genome.”

Despite knowing the salarian for years, there were times when his mental leaps still took Miranda by surprise.

“Monogamy wasn’t always the norm.” She pointed out, toying with her datapad. “And I’m not sure it’s been around long enough to have that effect.”

“Just a theory. Together with human birth ratios seem to suggest biological imperative achieving equilibrium with mature, space-faring culture.”

It was a long time since Miranda had given it thought, but at his words, the memory of Noah’s ark from her childhood came to mind, the rare times when she forced reality to take a backseat in favour of an imaginary world. She’d long since lost that ability. Inevitably as it did now, the image conjured up a new dread.

“I hope we wouldn’t need to go on board the ark, two by two, this time.”

“Ah. Christian biblical reference. Hard to imagine, but are you a believer?”

“I was never one. But it made for a great story as a child.” Unable to dislodge her newfound dread, she said a little desperately. “I’ve been meaning to ask: I’ve read about salarian breeding contracts, but what actually happens?”

Mordin’s lips split widely. On a human, she would say it was a salacious smile. He lifted a finger. And then followed that with all six digits.

“One female. Many males.”

Miranda smiled despite her mood.

“That sounds strangely refreshing. How do your women stand being pawed over?”

“No physical contact involved. Fortunately or unfortunately. Egg-laying species. Unfertilised eggs hatch into males. Fertilised become females. Each male partner allowed to fertilise one egg.”

She nibbled on the end of a finger. “I see why you think our courtship behaviour baffling. No physical contact would be quite the letdown.”

“Hormones can be very inconvenient. You have my sympathy.”

“You’ll excuse me if I don’t respond to that.” She chuckled, even as Mordin’s lips twitched. “So what happens if a male tries to, ah, overstep his boundaries?”

“Communal affair. Female’s clan-mates stand guard against unsanctioned moves. Quite a good deterrant actually.”  

“Another of those big differences…” She shook her head. “Do you have children of your own?”

“Contract negotiation takes too long. STG work more important. More than one way to leave mark of existence in galaxy. Foresee children in the future yourself?”

Mordin must have sensed her sudden mood change, and asked carefully.

“Intruding? Apologies, didn’t mean offense.”

“No. It’s all right.” Miranda stared at the datapad in her hands before making her decision.

“It’s just awhile back, I found out I wouldn’t be able to conceive naturally. It’s not irreversible, I think. I didn’t have the time to learn more, what with Shepard getting captured and the rest of us on the run. Not that it matters now...” She said, gazing at the opposite wall of the room.

Mordin coughed politely. “Beg to differ. Salarians lack concept of sexual love, but universal for all species to have emotional investment in future. Survival mechanism.”

“I know. But that’s so academic. Knowing it doesn’t count somehow… ”

“Need to feel to understand? Not immune myself. Tendency for scientists to overlook: sometimes, most effective answers are emotional ones.”

She looked at him.

“You’re a wise man, Mordin.”

To her surprise, he looked away in embarrassment.

“Harboured fear once would spend twilight years on home-world as armchair philosopher. Traditional. Much better here instead. Humans have a saying: no rest for the wicked? Very apt personally.”

Miranda laughed. “That’s as good a reasoning as any.”

nice!  you write mordin very naturally.

I really enjoyed reading this.  I re-read it a second time to see if I had any thoughts.  I do like how Mordin flows in his words.  Good job.  I thought it was good. Not sure why Miranda came to see Mordin.  Was the purpose of this scene to talk about Shepard and Mating?  Something felt missing... to me.  Maybe she could ask Mordin for help in finding if it's curable or not. 

Was this her way of asking for his help indirectly? 

But I liked reading it. 

Modifié par enayasoul, 20 octobre 2010 - 08:52 .

[Caihn]

jtav wrote...

The trouble is they we're never really shown Miranda being a good leader. She really needed a scene showing off her tactical brilliance.

Like every squadmates.
But Bioware painted Miranda as someone who is competent, calm, collected and driven to accomplish her mission : excellent leader traits.

[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...
I'm still thinking to make a dramatic ending : with two or three survivors. Miranda of course, but I don't know who will be the other lucky survivors.

I did that. I intended to have only Miranda and Jacob left. But the "hold-the-line" survival guide had a mistake, and I  got one more surivor. With Finagle's law being what it is, you can guess who that was...

Jack ?

Exactly. Well, at least it was a human - May Shepard is pretty much the Cerberus cheerleader Miranda is always accused to be, complete with a human supremacist agenda (that was painful to play, but I wanted one Shepard set up for the ultimate Renegade ending in ME3).

[enayasoul]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

New Wallpaper :

Thank you. Very nice!

ooooooooh. I like this one one a lot! 

[enayasoul]

Ieldra2 wrote...

hooahguy wrote...
What do you mean by "shes acting"?

You know, well, acting. Pretending she's someone else. Pretty common for spies. I'd think she's very good at it.

I just started watching previous 'chuck' episodes this past monday...and then latest one that aired. WOW :-) I saw bits of piece of various tones she used as Miranda.   Now, I am on a search for the first 3 seasons to catch up.

[enayasoul]

I find Jack calling Miranda the Cerberus cheerleader rather funny... Never really get a sense if Miranda enjoys that line or not. Guess I need to go back and see if she gives off any hints.



Loved it when Jacks says, "Hear that precious, we are going to be friends..." and the dirtys secrets... Cracks me up every time.

[Elyvern]

Yannkee wrote...

Bioware should have disable the loyalty missions after the suicide mission.

I actually left out some LMs so I could do them with legion after the suicide mission. Used Ecael's calculator to keep everyone alive by shuffling all the assignments.

Edit: gorgeous wallpaper. That's gonna be my new one.

Modifié par Elyvern, 21 octobre 2010 - 12:05 .

[Elyvern]

sagequeen wrote...

 hi all. just wanted to share a fanvid i made for the whole squad. miranda got some of the best music because 1) it fits her and 2) she's awesome.

hope you like: http://bit.ly/me-squad

This is pretty cool. Thanks for sharing!

[Elyvern]

enayasoul wrote...

I find Jack calling Miranda the Cerberus cheerleader rather funny... Never really get a sense if Miranda enjoys that line or not. Guess I need to go back and see if she gives off any hints.

Loved it when Jacks says, "Hear that precious, we are going to be friends..." and the dirtys secrets... Cracks me up every time.

Thanks for the compliments. Curing her fertility isn't a point here. This is an excerpt from a fic which I'm working on now, so it's is pretty much out of context. Just wanted to show that Miranda can confide in Mordin because you asked.

Miranda doesn't respond to Jack's baiting in that scene. She's probably seething inside, but refuses to vent her anger because it's just not professional. I can't wait to write the portions involving her and Jack working together in my story. They have a surprising amount of chemistry as antagonists. Just check out the amount of raw energy that radiates off their loyalty conflict scene, the way they circle around each other, sizing each other up. One of my fav scenes in the game actually.  

[hooahguy]

enayasoul wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

hooahguy wrote...
What do you mean by "shes acting"?

You know, well, acting. Pretending she's someone else. Pretty common for spies. I'd think she's very good at it.

I just started watching previous 'chuck' episodes this past monday...and then latest one that aired. WOW :-) I saw bits of piece of various tones she used as Miranda.   Now, I am on a search for the first 3 seasons to catch up.

You can find them here: http://watch-series.com/serie/chuck

[fongiel24]

Elyvern wrote...

jtav wrote...

Elyvern, I read your excerpt. Looks very interesting. I can't wait to read more. I think your Mordin voice is spot on.

Curiously, I've always found Miranda easy to write. I have no idea why. Shepard is pure hell, which is why I minimize his/her presence as much as I can. It helps that I have a very clear picture of who Miranda is and that I've written characters like her before.

Thanks. I think I got her character and motivations down, it's her speech patterns that give me trouble. Put it this way: if you had to write one line on a neutral topic, without referencing who the speaker is, it's very difficult to decisively convey that the line was spoken by Miranda, compared to characters like Jack, Mordin, or even Samara and Grunt. Other characters like Tali can be signposted by her quarian expletives, Jacob by his "cool-black" diction, and Garrus via his sense of dry humour.

I think the only joke, and I'm not even sure it's a joke, I ever hear Miranda make is when Shepard rails against human experimentation in Mordin's LM, saying someting along the lines of "things like this make Cerberus seem like a good idea" and she responds with "I'll be sure to include that into my report." Honestly, I never knew what to make of that line.

I'm attempting to write extensive Jacob dialogue for a Jacob-centric fic I'm working on, and strangely, if you just listen to his words and not his tone, he's not actually that distinctively "cool-black". I might be treading on borderline stereotyping here, but he rarely uses slang and his sentence structure is very conventional. The only syntax he uses that makes his speech a little informal is that on occasion he drops personal pronouns and proper nouns from the beginnings of sentences.  If you were to mute ME2 and just read his subtitles, you would have a hard time marking his lines out as belonging to those of the "cool black guy".

Writing Miranda really does come down to mindset and attitude rather than relying on tendencies in syntax or word choice. I find it alarmingly easy to write Miranda for entire chapters in what I think is an in-character portrayal, only to read the passages again to find Miranda unrecognizable. Sometimes it really does come down to my own state of mind that determines whether I can channel my "inner Miranda". This may sound stupid, but I find it sometimes helps to act out facial expressions or hand motions when I'm writing dialogue. It's not even a fully conscious act, just something I do as a I test out a line in that character's voice in my head.

[fongiel24]

enayasoul wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

hooahguy wrote...
What do you mean by "shes acting"?

You know, well, acting. Pretending she's someone else. Pretty common for spies. I'd think she's very good at it.

I just started watching previous 'chuck' episodes this past monday...and then latest one that aired. WOW :-) I saw bits of piece of various tones she used as Miranda.   Now, I am on a search for the first 3 seasons to catch up.

I am so far behind on Chuck. I still haven't watched the last four episodes from last season and I haven't watched any episodes from this season. I'm going to have to set aside time one weekend and just watch them all in one block - have a Chuck-a-thon .

[hooahguy]

fongiel24 wrote...
I'm going to have to set aside time one weekend and just watch them all in one block - have a Chuck-a-thon .

My name is Commander Shepard and this is my favorite idea on the Citadel! 

But seriously, the current season is really good. And some smoking hot scenes of Yvonne to sweeten the deal. 

Modifié par hooahguy, 21 octobre 2010 - 12:48 .

[enayasoul]

hooahguy wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

hooahguy wrote...
What do you mean by "shes acting"?

You know, well, acting. Pretending she's someone else. Pretty common for spies. I'd think she's very good at it.

I just started watching previous 'chuck' episodes this past monday...and then latest one that aired. WOW :-) I saw bits of piece of various tones she used as Miranda.   Now, I am on a search for the first 3 seasons to catch up.

You can find them here: http://watch-series.com/serie/chuck

SQUEALS IN DELIGHT. omg, omg   Thank you, Thank you

Modifié par enayasoul, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:21 .

[enayasoul]

fongiel24 wrote...

Elyvern wrote...

jtav wrote...

Elyvern, I read your excerpt. Looks very interesting. I can't wait to read more. I think your Mordin voice is spot on.

Curiously, I've always found Miranda easy to write. I have no idea why. Shepard is pure hell, which is why I minimize his/her presence as much as I can. It helps that I have a very clear picture of who Miranda is and that I've written characters like her before.

Thanks. I think I got her character and motivations down, it's her speech patterns that give me trouble. Put it this way: if you had to write one line on a neutral topic, without referencing who the speaker is, it's very difficult to decisively convey that the line was spoken by Miranda, compared to characters like Jack, Mordin, or even Samara and Grunt. Other characters like Tali can be signposted by her quarian expletives, Jacob by his "cool-black" diction, and Garrus via his sense of dry humour.

I think the only joke, and I'm not even sure it's a joke, I ever hear Miranda make is when Shepard rails against human experimentation in Mordin's LM, saying someting along the lines of "things like this make Cerberus seem like a good idea" and she responds with "I'll be sure to include that into my report." Honestly, I never knew what to make of that line.

I'm attempting to write extensive Jacob dialogue for a Jacob-centric fic I'm working on, and strangely, if you just listen to his words and not his tone, he's not actually that distinctively "cool-black". I might be treading on borderline stereotyping here, but he rarely uses slang and his sentence structure is very conventional. The only syntax he uses that makes his speech a little informal is that on occasion he drops personal pronouns and proper nouns from the beginnings of sentences.  If you were to mute ME2 and just read his subtitles, you would have a hard time marking his lines out as belonging to those of the "cool black guy".

Writing Miranda really does come down to mindset and attitude rather than relying on tendencies in syntax or word choice. I find it alarmingly easy to write Miranda for entire chapters in what I think is an in-character portrayal, only to read the passages again to find Miranda unrecognizable. Sometimes it really does come down to my own state of mind that determines whether I can channel my "inner Miranda". This may sound stupid, but I find it sometimes helps to act out facial expressions or hand motions when I'm writing dialogue. It's not even a fully conscious act, just something I do as a I test out a line in that character's voice in my head.

It's not stupid at all.  The mind set and attitude is how I go about writing her lines in my fic. I do the same thing you just wrote... facial expressions... sometimes i close my eyes and visualize it in my head some ideas... then I write down bits and pieces that  I played it out in my minde. other times i am writing and stuck on how to say it or what I want to be discovered in that scene. Like does she win or does another.  (I've actually taken a screen writing class in college and absolutely loved it.)  I have caught my self using my hands and go wait a minute. Then I add that to it.  Or to see if she will actually would say that.  I go back to the game and watch her. How she walks, talks to people.  How rude she can be but still get away with what she says.

Right now, Miranda is struggling with the emotional part of letting him in.  Leaving Cerberus, if she can... and her sisters saftely let alone helping shepard fight the reapers.  poor girl.   Guess she had a little bit of an overload just finishing the collector base and all. hehe

Then the whole conversation with Tim, throwing **** around, and Jacob basically helping chill the frell out.  telling her she is in love and to give it a shot with shepard.

And watching "Chuck" the actress who voiced Miranda really helps to.  Just have to make sure they are in context with her character, Miranda.
  

[hooahguy]

enayasoul wrote...
It's not stupid at all.  The mind set and attitude is how I go about writing her lines in my fic. I do the same thing you just wrote... facial expressions... sometimes i close my eyes and visualize it in my head some ideas... then I write down bits and pieces that  I played it out in my minde. other times i am writing and stuck on how to say it or what I want to be discovered in that scene. Like does she win or does another.  (I've actually taken a screen writing class in college and absolutely loved it.)  I have caught my self using my hands and go wait a minute. Then I add that to it.  Or to see if she will actually would say that.  I go back to the game and watch her. How she walks, talks to people.  How rude she can be but still get away with what she says.

Right now, Miranda is struggling with the emotional part of letting him in.  Leaving Cerberus, if she can... and her sisters saftely let alone helping shepard fight the reapers.  poor girl.   Guess she had a little bit of an overload just finishing the collector base and all. hehe

Then the whole conversation with Tim, throwing **** around, and Jacob basically helping chill the frell out.  telling her she is in love and to give it a shot with shepard.

And watching "Chuck" the actress who voiced Miranda really helps to.  Just have to make sure they are in context with her character, Miranda.
  

Considering that I, along with Yannkee, both believe that Miri and Sarah Walker (played by Miri's VA, Yvonne Strahovski) are quite close in personality, though I do think that Miri is a bit colder, at least at first. 
Just make sure you post this fanfic, Im getting excited for the first chapter!

[enayasoul]

A nice screenshot of the male shep with the ladies...

Modifié par enayasoul, 22 octobre 2010 - 01:45 .

[enayasoul]

Elyvern wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

I find Jack calling Miranda the Cerberus cheerleader rather funny... Never really get a sense if Miranda enjoys that line or not. Guess I need to go back and see if she gives off any hints.

Loved it when Jacks says, "Hear that precious, we are going to be friends..." and the dirtys secrets... Cracks me up every time.

Thanks for the compliments. Curing her fertility isn't a point here. This is an excerpt from a fic which I'm working on now, so it's is pretty much out of context. Just wanted to show that Miranda can confide in Mordin because you asked.

Miranda doesn't respond to Jack's baiting in that scene. She's probably seething inside, but refuses to vent her anger because it's just not professional. I can't wait to write the portions involving her and Jack working together in my story. They have a surprising amount of chemistry as antagonists. Just check out the amount of raw energy that radiates off their loyalty conflict scene, the way they circle around each other, sizing each other up. One of my fav scenes in the game actually.  

They are my favorite scenes too!  With Miranda and Jack butting heads.   I am guitly of asking Jack a few times during my playthrough what she thinks of Miranda... Just for laughs.   I am terrible.

[snfonseka]

This time a different type of pic!
Introducing angry Miranda....

[hooahguy]

Honestly I couldnt see Miri and Jacob talking like that, not with their history.

[tommyt_1994]

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Modifié par tommyt_1994, 21 octobre 2010 - 04:47 .