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[fongiel24]

enayasoul wrote...

Not sure if I have Jacob's voice pattern down but anyways, it was fun to write him this way...(not my fav but my impression of him... some say he is way too nice... hopefully that helped. Sorry had to make comments about her ass. )

It's a rough draft... did it the other day not perfect.

I think Jacob would probably be Miranda's closest confidante on the Normandy (other than possibly Shepard if s/he romanced or befriended her), but it's difficult to tell how Jacob really feels about Miranda and Shepard being in a relationship. I've got a similar scene in a fic I'm working on and I really struggled with how comfortable Jacob would be giving relationship advice to his ex, a woman he still cares about.

Just out of curiosity, why is everything in your draft written in the present tense? It reads a little like a script for a play.

[hooahguy]

snfonseka wrote...

This time a different type of pic!
Introducing angry Miranda....

Is that from the first mission (the Lazerus base mission) or her LM?

[enayasoul]

hooahguy wrote...

Honestly I couldnt see Miri and Jacob talking like that, not with their history.

Thanks for the feedback. Like I said it was just something I wrote a day ago.  I'll look into Miranda and Jacobs background more.   Ideas welcomed...

Modifié par enayasoul, 21 octobre 2010 - 05:11 .

[hooahguy]

The Dynamic Duo... and Grunt.

Modifié par hooahguy, 21 octobre 2010 - 05:21 .

[enayasoul]

fongiel24 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

Not sure if I have Jacob's voice pattern down but anyways, it was fun to write him this way...(not my fav but my impression of him... some say he is way too nice... hopefully that helped. Sorry had to make comments about her ass. )

It's a rough draft... did it the other day not perfect.

I think Jacob would probably be Miranda's closest confidante on the Normandy (other than possibly Shepard if s/he romanced or befriended her), but it's difficult to tell how Jacob really feels about Miranda and Shepard being in a relationship. I've got a similar scene in a fic I'm working on and I really struggled with how comfortable Jacob would be giving relationship advice to his ex, a woman he still cares about.

Just out of curiosity, why is everything in your draft written in the present tense? It reads a little like a script for a play.

Yes, exactly.  I am not sure if Jacob is really comfortable about talking with her either.  Maybe I can explore that concept... Something to think about, however.

Easier to write I suppose.  Use to doing it that way. I usually add all the descriptions later.

  

[hooahguy]

Maybe turn Jacob into someone who still has major feelings for Miri, and as such, is trying to sabotage the relationship between Miri and Shep? If you are looking for drama, this could be it.

But I will say again, Jacob giving relationship advice to his ex? Makes zero sense.

Would you give your ex relationship advice? I know I wouldnt.

[fongiel24]

hooahguy wrote...

Maybe turn Jacob into someone who still has major feelings for Miri, and as such, is trying to sabotage the relationship between Miri and Shep? If you are looking for drama, this could be it.
But I will say again, Jacob giving relationship advice to his ex? Makes zero sense.
Would you give your ex relationship advice? I know I wouldnt.

That depends if you've gotten over them, the terms you broke up on, and whether you're still friends. I've asked one of my ex's for relationship advice and vice versa. Neither of us was trying to sabotage the other.

I think it's clear that Jacob and Miranda still care about each other - if not romantically, at least platonically. I think both of them would want to see the other happy, even if it's not with them.

[GodWood]

Yannkee wrote...

hooahguy wrote...
Well then, I guess I'll have to kill Jack off for my next playthrough...

Good idea.
Personnaly, she always die in my playthroughs, because ...

Wow, I'm not sure if thats more sad or creepy.
My main Shepard (and myself) hate Miranda's guts but I wouldn't go out of my way to kill her.
Thats just poor leadership.

[Ieldra]

GodWood wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

hooahguy wrote...
Well then, I guess I'll have to kill Jack off for my next playthrough...

Good idea.
Personnaly, she always die in my playthroughs, because ...

Wow, I'm not sure if thats more sad or creepy.
My main Shepard (and myself) hate Miranda's guts but I wouldn't go out of my way to kill her.
Thats just poor leadership.

First, if we say we kill anyone, it's just a figure of speech, meaning that our Shepard will be unable to keep that person alive. A perfect outcome is boring, so I - and it seems some others - often make a token sacrifice to hold up the illusion that the suicide mission is really dangerous. That token sacrifice just happens to be someone we like less than most.
Second, in this case there is actually some in-game justification for Shepard to remove Jack from the team: she did threaten Miranda in this "just wait until this is over, and I'll kill you" way. Plainly, I saw such a thing coming, and had I had the chance, I wouldn't have recruited her in the first place. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of her without killing her, so in some games that's just the way it goes.

[t3HPrO]

Once again, moar fic. Enjoy and review.

[GodWood]

Ieldra2 wrote...
First, if we say we kill anyone, it's just a figure of speech, meaning that our Shepard will be unable to keep that person alive. A perfect outcome is boring, so I - and it seems some others - often make a token sacrifice to hold up the illusion that the suicide mission is really dangerous. That token sacrifice just happens to be someone we like less than most.
Second, in this case there is actually some in-game justification for Shepard to remove Jack from the team: she did threaten Miranda in this "just wait until this is over, and I'll kill you" way. Plainly, I saw such a thing coming, and had I had the chance, I wouldn't have recruited her in the first place. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of her without killing her, so in some games that's just the way it goes.

Theres killing some characters for dramatic effect, then theres killing off specific characters everytime.

Theres a difference.

[Elyvern]

GodWood wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
First, if we say we kill anyone, it's just a figure of speech, meaning that our Shepard will be unable to keep that person alive. A perfect outcome is boring, so I - and it seems some others - often make a token sacrifice to hold up the illusion that the suicide mission is really dangerous. That token sacrifice just happens to be someone we like less than most.
Second, in this case there is actually some in-game justification for Shepard to remove Jack from the team: she did threaten Miranda in this "just wait until this is over, and I'll kill you" way. Plainly, I saw such a thing coming, and had I had the chance, I wouldn't have recruited her in the first place. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of her without killing her, so in some games that's just the way it goes.

Theres killing some characters for dramatic effect, then theres killing off specific characters everytime.

Theres a difference.

Please don't make this into a case of everyone on this thread killing Jack all the time. We speak for ourselves in here, and personally I save all squadmates on most playthroughs except one where I offed a crapload of other people including Tali, Thane, Morinth and Zaeed.  

Modifié par Elyvern, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:25 .

[Jebel Krong]

GodWood wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
First, if we say we kill anyone, it's just a figure of speech, meaning that our Shepard will be unable to keep that person alive. A perfect outcome is boring, so I - and it seems some others - often make a token sacrifice to hold up the illusion that the suicide mission is really dangerous. That token sacrifice just happens to be someone we like less than most.
Second, in this case there is actually some in-game justification for Shepard to remove Jack from the team: she did threaten Miranda in this "just wait until this is over, and I'll kill you" way. Plainly, I saw such a thing coming, and had I had the chance, I wouldn't have recruited her in the first place. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of her without killing her, so in some games that's just the way it goes.

Theres killing some characters for dramatic effect, then theres killing off specific characters everytime.

Theres a difference.

actually i generally keep everyone alive just hoping there will be more conflict in ME3 - resolving that situation, if Jack pursues it could be.. interesting. in a neck-snapping kinda way. Samara hints she would attack you at the least once she's released from her oath, too. having to kill ex-squad members would make for some very interesting plot and gameplay twists/choices.

EDIT: the only time i didn't have everyone survive was my kill everyone run-through, where only 3 people survived.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:23 .

[GuardianAngel470]

Jebel Krong wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
First, if we say we kill anyone, it's just a figure of speech, meaning that our Shepard will be unable to keep that person alive. A perfect outcome is boring, so I - and it seems some others - often make a token sacrifice to hold up the illusion that the suicide mission is really dangerous. That token sacrifice just happens to be someone we like less than most.
Second, in this case there is actually some in-game justification for Shepard to remove Jack from the team: she did threaten Miranda in this "just wait until this is over, and I'll kill you" way. Plainly, I saw such a thing coming, and had I had the chance, I wouldn't have recruited her in the first place. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of her without killing her, so in some games that's just the way it goes.

Theres killing some characters for dramatic effect, then theres killing off specific characters everytime.

Theres a difference.

actually i generally keep everyone alive just hoping there will be more conflict in ME3 - resolving that situation, if Jack pursues it could be.. interesting. in a neck-snapping kinda way. Samara hints she would attack you at the least once she's released from her oath, too. having to kill ex-squad members would make for some very interesting plot and gameplay twists/choices.

EDIT: the only time i didn't have everyone survive was my kill everyone run-through, where only 3 people survived.

I wrote a fiction that features Miranda and Jacob. They're kind of bit characters in it, but they play an important role.

This is only for those who don't support Cerberus, their role just won't make sense to you otherwise. 

The links are in my sig.

[GuardianAngel470]

Elyvern wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
First, if we say we kill anyone, it's just a figure of speech, meaning that our Shepard will be unable to keep that person alive. A perfect outcome is boring, so I - and it seems some others - often make a token sacrifice to hold up the illusion that the suicide mission is really dangerous. That token sacrifice just happens to be someone we like less than most.
Second, in this case there is actually some in-game justification for Shepard to remove Jack from the team: she did threaten Miranda in this "just wait until this is over, and I'll kill you" way. Plainly, I saw such a thing coming, and had I had the chance, I wouldn't have recruited her in the first place. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of her without killing her, so in some games that's just the way it goes.

Theres killing some characters for dramatic effect, then theres killing off specific characters everytime.

Theres a difference.

Please don't make this into a case of everyone on this thread killing Jack all the time. We speak for ourselves in here, and personally I save all squadmates on most playthroughs except one where I offed a crapload of other people including Tali, Thane, Morinth and Zaeed.  

I always keep everyone alive. I love them all too much to kill them.

While I don't particularly like Miranda at the end of the game having not romanced her, she is my least favorite mainly because of lingering distaste, I like her enough to want to see how her character develops in ME3.

There is only one person I would kill and that's Kelly.

[snfonseka]

hooahguy wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

This time a different type of pic!
Introducing angry Miranda....

Is that from the first mission (the Lazerus base mission) or her LM?

According to my memory this is from first mission.....

[Jebel Krong]

snfonseka wrote...

hooahguy wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

This time a different type of pic!
Introducing angry Miranda....

Is that from the first mission (the Lazerus base mission) or her LM?

According to my memory this is from first mission.....

it's from her Loyalty mission (1st lift convo i think).

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:40 .

[snfonseka]

More angry Miranda pics....

Modifié par snfonseka, 21 octobre 2010 - 08:40 .

[snfonseka]

Jebel Krong wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

hooahguy wrote...

snfonseka wrote...

This time a different type of pic!
Introducing angry Miranda....

Is that from the first mission (the Lazerus base mission) or her LM?

According to my memory this is from first mission.....

it's from her Loyalty mission (1st lift convo i think).

You are probably correct. I don't havve a clear memory....

[Nightwriter]

I love Jack. So much. I love Jack and Miranda. They're my favorites.

It's so lonely.

Is there anyone out there? Is there truly another who likes both Jack and Miranda, like me? Am I alone in this world?

[Jebel Krong]

i always liked her ME: Galaxy design, too, personally:



as far as "cartoonised" people go, she comes out pretty good, certainly better than the redemption comic interiors:

[Nightwriter]

enayasoul wrote...

hooahguy wrote...

Honestly I couldnt see Miri and Jacob talking like that, not with their history.

Thanks for the feedback. Like I said it was just something I wrote a day ago.  I'll look into Miranda and Jacobs background more.   Ideas welcomed...

This surveillance video torments me so much. So much. I keep trying to figure out what they're saying.

Especially when she says something and then jerks her head. What's she saying when she jerks her head?

"Let's go have sex"? "Let's get back to work"? "Let's get some jelly donuts"? "Let's poke Shepard's body with a stick"?

[Caihn]

Ieldra2 wrote...
First, if we say we kill anyone, it's just a figure of speech, meaning that our Shepard will be unable to keep that person alive. A perfect outcome is boring, so I - and it seems some others - often make a token sacrifice to hold up the illusion that the suicide mission is really dangerous. That token sacrifice just happens to be someone we like less than most.
Second, in this case there is actually some in-game justification for Shepard to remove Jack from the team: she did threaten Miranda in this "just wait until this is over, and I'll kill you" way. Plainly, I saw such a thing coming, and had I had the chance, I wouldn't have recruited her in the first place. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of her without killing her, so in some games that's just the way it goes.

QFT


Like I said before : I wouldn't let Jack die if she didn't threaten Miranda.

Some players kill Miranda because they don't like her, I kill Jack because she's a threat for the team. I don't hate Jack (I don't like her either), but Bioware decided to not give the option to not recruit her ... too bad for her.

(I also have a "no one left behind" playthrough, but I don't know if I will continue it in ME3)

Modifié par Yannkee, 21 octobre 2010 - 09:08 .

[Jebel Krong]

Nightwriter wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

hooahguy wrote...

Honestly I couldnt see Miri and Jacob talking like that, not with their history.

Thanks for the feedback. Like I said it was just something I wrote a day ago.  I'll look into Miranda and Jacobs background more.   Ideas welcomed...

This surveillance video torments me so much. So much. I keep trying to figure out what they're saying.

Especially when she says something and then jerks her head. What's she saying when she jerks her head?

"Let's go have sex"? "Let's get back to work"? "Let's get some jelly donuts"? "Let's poke Shepard's body with a stick"?

"wanna grab some hot chocolate?" 

[Caihn]

hooahguy wrote...

Honestly I couldnt see Miri and Jacob talking like that, not with their history.

I think Miranda would not talk about personal matters with Jacob. They were close, but not anymore.
Now, he's just a professional relation. Besides, asking advices about serious relationship to Jacob is one of the most stupid thing she could do.