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[Aedan1992]

Yannkee wrote...



I really like this Miri/Shep moment.
Bioware should add more scenes like this one.

I agree. I really hope Bioware will put something like this in ME3.

[Ieldra]

Here's the bigger but non-animated version:



@Yannkee:
The lighting in your GIF seems better. Is that modded lighting?

Modifié par Ieldra2, 24 octobre 2010 - 12:39 .

[Elyvern]

Thanks for the SS, guys. Yikes...she really needs a tan. I really wouldn't mind if the devs give her a more "healthy" skin tone in ME3. Not to imply that she's unhealthy-looking, but I do think that part of why she falls into the uncanny valley for me is because her pale skin contrasts so strongly with her dark hair that her face (which isn't slim in the first place) stands out too strongly.

*anticipates rotten tomatoes*

[Ieldra]

Elyvern wrote...

Thanks for the SS, guys. Yikes...she really needs a tan. I really wouldn't mind if the devs give her a more "healthy" skin tone in ME3. Not to imply that she's unhealthy-looking, but I do think that part of why she falls into the uncanny valley for me is because her pale skin contrasts so strongly with her dark hair that her face (which isn't slim in the first place) stands out too strongly.
*anticipates rotten tomatoes*

Glad to oblige

*throws rotten bananas, they smell worse and are stickier*

Her jaw needs a little adjustment, but I love her pale skin and wouldn't like to see it changed. It's the lighting that causes the pallor, and the unrealistic high contrast between her skin tone and the shadows in her face, which are almost black in standard lighting. Here's the screenshot from the previous page again as a contrast:

Modifié par Ieldra2, 24 octobre 2010 - 12:53 .

[Caihn]

Ieldra2 wrote...
@Yannkee:
The lighting in your GIF seems better. Is that modded lighting?

It's the custom game settings I already posted a few weeks ago.

the screenshots :

Modifié par Yannkee, 24 octobre 2010 - 12:58 .

[jtav]

If we can't poke a little good-natured fun at ourselves, something's wrong.



I was reading the "characters you should dislike, but don't" thread. Miranda was the first person I thought of. I'm very conventional in my ethics. I despise Cerberus, and consider the fact that she'd even consider a chip indication of a skewed moral compass. Her clothes and camera angles make me uncomfortable. I manage to like her anyway. Partly because of her competence. Partly because of her obvious and heartbreaking love for Oriana. She's so afraid mere contact will ruin her sister's life, but she'll kill and die for her without hesitation without ever asking a thing for herself. If she were to express that same level of devotion toward a LI, she becomes my favorite type of romantic lead.

[Aedan1992]

I still don't get it why people have a problem with her outfit. I find the white one ugly, but i have no problem with her loyal outfit.

Modifié par Aedan1992, 24 octobre 2010 - 01:13 .

[Caihn]

 I really like her loyal outfit.

[Ieldra]

Aedan1992 wrote...
I still don't get it why people have a problem with her outfit. I find the white one ugly, but i have no problem with her loyal outfit.

The black one is quite a bit better than the white one. But still:
(1) It looks as if painted on the skin
(2) High heels in combat
(3) Exposed skin in space
(4) It reminds me of a dominatrix outfit.

All in all, it looks like nothing I'd expect an operative to wear on a combat mission, even if I make allowances for the Rule of Sexy. We're not in a comic book, but it an SF universe that wants to be taken somewhat seriously. To say it in Gatatog Uvenk's voice: "This is too much!"

Having said that, there are some pictures where I really like Miranda in the black outfit (like the above). But it is still work to suspend my disbelief in-game.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 24 octobre 2010 - 01:37 .

[jtav]

It looks good there, but is partially see-through in some lighting. And it's still pretty blatant fanservice.

[Aedan1992]

Yannkee wrote...

 I really like her loyal outfit.

One word....Wow:wub:

[Caihn]

I disagree. Most of the female outfit in video games are far more over sexualized. And it doesn't bother people so much.

And her looks is justified because Miranda is comfortable with this, she even talks about it during a conversation. It's part of her character.



Yes it's sexy, and if people think it's too much they should take a look in other RPGs. Bioware could have made Miranda far more over sexualized.



But I agree she should not wear this kind of outfit in combat (like many other squadmates).

[Aedan1992]

I agree with the high heels part, but other then that i really don't have any problem with it at all. I couldn't care less if they put her in the same outfit in ME 3 and if BW does that like it or not your going to have to accept it. Because BW will certainly not change it.

[Aedan1992]

Yannkee wrote...

I disagree. Most of the female outfit in video games are far more over sexualized. And it doesn't bother people so much.
And her looks is justified because Miranda is comfortable with this, she even talks about it during a conversation. It's part of her character.

Yes it's sexy, and if people think it's too much they should take a look in other RPGs. Bioware could have made Miranda far more over sexualized.

But I agree she should not wear this kind of outfit in combat (like many other squadmates).

QFT

[Ieldra]

Yannkee wrote...
I disagree. Most of the female outfit in video games are far more over sexualized. And it doesn't bother people so much.
And her looks is justified because Miranda is comfortable with this, she even talks about it during a conversation. It's part of her character.
Yes it's sexy, and if people think it's too much they should take a look in other RPGs. Bioware could have made Miranda far more over sexualized.

Fantasy RPGs can get away with more unrealistic sexiness because they're, well, fantasy. Sci-Fi settings have higher standards regarding realism. That's why Miranda can have less outrageous outfits than women in some fantasy RPGS, and still look oversexualized for the setting. BTW, while we're at it Samara's is even worse and more foreign to the setting. It reminds me of a superhero costume.

But I agree she should not wear this kind of outfit in combat (like many other squadmates).

That's all I want. The outfit itself is OK, in fact I like that she wears something sexy. She just shouldn't wear it in combat and in space.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 24 octobre 2010 - 02:24 .

[jtav]

"It could be worse" isn't much of a defense because it could be better too. Look at the forums. A lot of people found the outfit to be to the detriment of her character. Maybe BW will take note, and the ME3 female lead won't be so hypersexualized. They'll need to give her a new outfit if she's no longer with Cerberus anyway. May as well let them know what we want.

[Caihn]

Most of the people who talk about her outfit in the forum are Miranda detractors. There are also a lot of people who are ok with her outfit.



Of course it could be better, like many things in the game. I just find all this complains about her looks completely ridiculous.

[hooahguy]

I still hold that BW needs to go back to the "on-ship" uniforms that Human characters had in ME1. I think what Miri wore in ME2 would be great for on the ship, but what Liara wore in LotSB would be great for Miri. Someone actually posted a combat armor version for her a while back, I thought it looked good on her.

[Caihn]

hooahguy wrote...

I still hold that BW needs to go back to the "on-ship" uniforms that Human characters had in ME1. I think what Miri wore in ME2 would be great for on the ship, but what Liara wore in LotSB would be great for Miri.

I agree with the casual outfit on ship and the combat suit during mission.
But I don't really like Liara's outfit in LotSB, I hope they won't give this kind of outfit for Miranda.

[hooahguy]

Also Yannkee, can you post your custom settings again? I would like that lighting and I dont want to sift through 328 pages to find it.

Thanks!

[Caihn]

hooahguy wrote...

Also Yannkee, can you post your custom settings again? I would like that lighting and I dont want to sift through 328 pages to find it.
Thanks!

You have to add or edit these systemsettings lines in GamerSettings.ini :

QualityBloom=True
FilmGrain=False
MotionBlur=True
DynamicShadows=False
LightEnvironmentShadows=True
MaxCharacterCinematicLightingPasses=3
EnableLightEnvSHLights=True
MaxAnisotropy=16
BorderlessWindow=False
DisableAudio=False
DepthOfField=True
EnableHighPolyChars=True
TEXTUREGROUP_Character_2048=(MinLODSize=1024,MaxLODSize=2048,LODBias=-1)
TEXTUREGROUP_Environment_2048=(MinLODSize=1024,MaxLODSize=2048,LODBias=-1)
MinShadowResolution=64
MaxShadowResolution=2048
DynamicLights=True
ShadowFilterQualityBias=2
Trilinear=TRUE
ModShadowFadeDistanceExponent=0.200000
UseMinimalNVIDIADriverShaderOptimization=False
BIOVertexShaderVersion=v_3_0

Modifié par Yannkee, 24 octobre 2010 - 02:56 .

[hooahguy]

Thanks!
EDIT: where do you find that file? Ive been looking all over but I cant find it.

Modifié par hooahguy, 24 octobre 2010 - 03:09 .

[Caihn]

hooahguy wrote...

Thanks!
EDIT: where do you find that file? Ive been looking all over but I cant find it.

It's in  ../user/mydocument/bioware/MassEffect2/Biogame/config

[jtav]

Here's a topic we haven't discussed in a while: how is Miranda going to keep Oriana safe in games where she resigned? Even if TIM doesn't immediately decide he wants her head on a platter, he now has no reason to protect Oriana. It may be to her benefit to find a new "patron," but the only possibility that comes to mind is Liara. Unless she deals wiith her father once and for all.

[hooahguy]

Maybe TIM has the hopes that Miranda will reconsider, so he doesnt give away that info just yet. Maybe if in ME3 if Miri takes action against TIM, he will see it as the point of no return and then release the info on Oriana.