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Can't all us science experiments just get along?

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hooahguy

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Nightwriter, your answer. 
Miranda: Of course, if we all put our past behind us and settle things like adults, we can all get along.

Jack: HECK NO YOU CHEERLEADER

Modifié par hooahguy, 25 octobre 2010 - 02:13 .


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Why does this thread's version of things always depict Jack as being the problem in reconciliation efforts? Like Miranda is so nice and just wants to be mature about it.

Miranda was a cold b*tch in that fight and Jack was a violent immature b*tch. They were both b*tches.

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While Miri can be cold, she can be brought to reason, in fact, while what I depicted Miri as saying is pretty far fetched and I doubt that she would say that, i think its a possibility for her to eventually come around.

Jack, Im not so sure about.

Modifié par hooahguy, 25 octobre 2010 - 02:31 .


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Oh okay. Well, yeah, Miranda would perhaps be easier to reason with than Jack, but I rather hoped the Collector mission would be a bonding experience for everyone and that Miranda's resignation from Cerberus would make an impact on Jack.

This is assuming ME3 will even address Miranda and Jack's hostilities, which it likely won't.

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I almost thought it was out of character for Miranda to get all upset at you for siding with Jack. She's ordinarily all logical and mature, and then acts like a schoolgirl about that argument with Jack. I dunno it just seemed wrong for her character.

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It would've been OOC if she'd have been angry and in Jack's face. But she was cold and icy the whole time, which seems like Miranda to me.

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magelet wrote...

I almost thought it was out of character for Miranda to get all upset at you for siding with Jack. She's ordinarily all logical and mature, and then acts like a schoolgirl about that argument with Jack. I dunno it just seemed wrong for her character.


Why wouldn't she? Jack stormed into Miranda's personal space, demanding recognition for Cerberus' wrongdoing from someone who feels she wasn't responsible for Jack's plight. Jack then attempts to inflict physical violence by throwing things biotically at Miranda, and threatens to kill her. To add insult to injury, Shepard then takes Jack's side. It would be hard on anyone, not just someone like Miranda.

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Aedan1992 wrote...

Yannkee wrote...

hooahguy wrote...

Funny. I dont see any difference between the default settings and the custom settings Yannkee posted. What am I doing wrong?


You should see a difference :

Default settings :

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Custom Settings :

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Wow miri looks really beautifull in those pics:wub:


Hey i havent been on Bioware social for a few months now, what do you mean Custom setting? where can i get them? sorry for a noob question.

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raptor1906 wrote...

Hey i havent been on Bioware social for a few months now, what do you mean Custom setting? where can i get them? sorry for a noob question.


Yannkee posted the settings a couple of pages back here.

However, Ieldra2 said there can be problems, in certain areas, affected by the change here.

I wouldn't know much more, myself, I'm currently stuck playing on the 360.

Modifié par AriesXX7, 25 octobre 2010 - 06:09 .


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Hey, all. I finally post the newest chapter of my fic. And I think you're going to like it. Full Shep/Miri action going on at the end. Let me know what you think.

Link's in my signature.

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LuxDragon wrote...

Hey, all. I finally post the newest chapter of my fic. And I think you're going to like it. Full Shep/Miri action going on at the end. Let me know what you think.
Link's in my signature.


Yay, been waiting for it!

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AriesXX7 wrote...

raptor1906 wrote...

Hey i havent been on Bioware social for a few months now, what do you mean Custom setting? where can i get them? sorry for a noob question.


Yannkee posted the settings a couple of pages back here.

However, Ieldra2 said there can be problems, in certain areas, affected by the change here.

I wouldn't know much more, myself, I'm currently stuck playing on the 360.


Thank you so much for the help! Really appreciate it

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hooahguy wrote...
I just want to see Miri falcon punch Jack.

I don't. Not unless Jack physically attacks her. I like the way the fight in the game plays out, with Miranda just doing the minimum necessary to avoid Jacks attack, stepping aside, fighting back with words. It shows more than anything else that she is in control of the situation.

It's too bad that so much of Jack's character development is tied to the romance. I can imagine Miranda and Jack could come to a grudging respect for each other after the Omega-4-relay mission, though they'd never be friends. Only if we romance Miranda, we don't see anything changing in Jack that would justify such a change. That means in the end of these games Jack is more or less the same person who attacked Miranda on the Normandy, which is why so many of us don't like her. 

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Yannkee wrote...
You should see a difference :

Default settings :

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Custom Settings :

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To me she looks airbrushed in the 2nd pic and "normal" [ie what a person would look like when they first wake up in the morning] in the 1st pic...


...but that's just my taste

Modifié par Snowship, 25 octobre 2010 - 08:50 .


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LuxDragon wrote...
Hey, all. I finally post the newest chapter of my fic. And I think you're going to like it. Full Shep/Miri action going on at the end. Let me know what you think.

You captured the scene with Oriana very well. I also like the Miranda/Enyala fight. But is it possible I've read that chapter, or parts of it, somewhere else some time ago? It seems very familiar, beyond being familiar from the game.

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The latest chapter is 31. Is your FF.net page not refreshing?



@Lux - nice work. Although I don't think it needed the M-rating.

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yannkee's customs settings make everyone look plasticky - it's just a side-effect of the models not being properly lit, though.



Nightwriter wrote...



Oh okay. Well, yeah, Miranda would perhaps be easier to reason with than Jack, but I rather hoped the Collector mission would be a bonding experience for everyone and that Miranda's resignation from Cerberus would make an impact on Jack.



This is assuming ME3 will even address Miranda and Jack's hostilities, which it likely won't.




i'm still hoping for a follow-up confrontation, tbh - i think some more character conflict would be great (with various ways to resolve it).

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There is a "middle" option : you keep the custom settings, and you reactivate DepthOfField. 

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I'm not fan of DoF, but some would prefer activate it.

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Yannkee, in the settings you posted DoF is activated...

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Elyvern wrote...
The latest chapter is 31. Is your FF.net page not refreshing?

I had a problem with my interface. Fixed now. I'll read on...

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Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee, in the settings you posted DoF is activated...


My mistake.
I forgot to edit the settings before copy/paste. (The screenshot I posted yesterday was with DoF=false)


I also use nHancer (only for nvida card) to force AA, AF and the AA compatibility.

Modifié par Yannkee, 25 octobre 2010 - 10:11 .


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Yannkee wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Yannkee, in the settings you posted DoF is activated...


My mistake.
I forgot to edit the settings before copy/paste. (The screenshot I posted yesterday was with DoF=false)


I also use nHancer (only for nvida card) to force AA, AF and the AA compatibility.


of course you need a good rig not to slow framerates with those settings (anyone copying) so be warned! alternatively bump the resolution up - has much the same effect without so much performance hit.

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DepthOfField is so dark it blots out a lot of detail, but turning it off sometimes makes everything look weird. There are scenes where I hate it and scenes where I hate not having it. For example, Shepard's armour looks much better with it turned off but some of the weapons look terrible because they weren't designed to be viewed in so much detail and DoF hid that. Some colours also look strange with DoF turned off. The orange in the intro screen goes from a deep orange to more of a sickly pumpkin orange and the Normandy background looks all washed out. Miranda's hair also ends up looking a lot lighter in her cabin.

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Here's a topic we haven't discussed in a while: how is Miranda going to keep Oriana safe in games where she resigned? Even if TIM doesn't immediately decide he wants her head on a platter, he now has no reason to protect Oriana. It may be to her benefit to find a new "patron," but the only possibility that comes to mind is Liara. Unless she deals wiith her father once and for all.


I'm not sure anything has changed from a practical standpoint. TIM protects Oriana because it's the cheapest way of ensuring Miranda's loyalty. Once Miranda resigns, it's the cheapest way to keep her mouth shut and stop her from either helping the Alliance/Council find him or coming after Cerberus herself. Sure, he could send assassins after her, but Miranda didn't become one of his top agents by being easy-to-kill. Keeping Oriana alive and protected is a useful means of blackmail. I don't think TIM reconsiders continuing to protect Orianna until at least after ME3.

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Elyvern wrote...
I was also thinking of terms of endearment Shepard and Miranda would use on each other and came up with....nothing. I think she's likely to be uncomfortable addressing people like that, although she does call Oriana Ori. Shepard could probably get away calling her Miri, but anything else and she'll object.

I'd be happy with them not using any for each other.

This brings me to another instance of "writers don't know what they're writing about": I just checked the dossier to see if Miranda really calls Oriana "Ori", and read this part again:

Miranda: Your mark in Late 20th century Earth history is below the standard deviation.[...]

I've always wondered if the medical report was intended to sound incompetent or if the writer didn't know what (s)he was writing about. After having read this, I tend to the latter. You'd think that the writer would've had the sense to look up what "standard deviation" means before using it in a way that doesn't make any sense.