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[Caihn]

To me, spending half the time of ME3 story without Miri would be already too painful.

Modifié par Yannkee, 27 octobre 2010 - 10:03 .

[Isaidlunch]

hooahguy wrote...

If Miri isnt in ME3 I will curl up in a corner with my laptop and keep playing ME2.

Now that's dedication

It's hard to think of a reason why she'd leave Shepard, with her possibly leaving Cerberus there's really nothing else for her to do except join the Alliance or maybe even become a Spectre. But with all she's been through with Shepard and with all she knows about the Reapers I think she'd feel obligated to help Shepard fight them.

[hooahguy]

By the way Yannkee, those changes that you did, I see them in the game, but my performance is taking a hit: every now and then it will freeze up for a few seconds, then continue. This never happened before I changed settings. Oh well.

[Caihn]

hooahguy wrote...

By the way Yannkee, those changes that you did, I see them in the game, but my performance is taking a hit: every now and then it will freeze up for a few seconds, then continue. This never happened before I changed settings. Oh well.

Yes, this settings are made for very good hardware configuration, especially the video card.

[t3HPrO]

If ME3 does not have Miri as a full time squaddie(or at the very least, you can always talk to her and see her), I'm going to camp in front of my PC with a Bunsen burner, marshmellows, hot chocolate, ME2 and Medal of Honor. I'm gonna just keep playing them and think about what could've been for Miri and Shep...

[jtav]

I can think of a few scenarios that would take the sting out of a cameo I fear is inevitable. Miranda becoming the Illusive Woman. Miranda becoming a SB agent. Mostly I want her to be doing something important, not retiring from the fight to protect her sister or similar. My other big fear is that she'll defrost so completely as to not be Miranda. I like my ruthless yet idealistic superspy. I want her back, not a Paragon-ized clone. That would be worse than her not appearing at all.



If I'm wrong, and they do manage to bring her back as a full-time team member, I hope they don't skimp on non-romance content. I like playing FemShep and I like Miranda better sans romance.

[ShrinkingFish]

Ieldra2 wrote...

ShrinkingFish wrote...
Yes... let us extend that definition to encompass all forms the Femme Fatale can take. Please. It is much more comprehensive than many would imagine it to be. The Femme Fatale can take many many forms. It only requires three elements which Miranda encompasses fully.

The problem is by extending the definition you can claim almost every beautiful woman who ever was the reason a man put himself into dangerous situations is a femme fatale. The definition would lose meaning. I'll reply to your claims, but I don't agree with your definition.

Mysterious: Which she is. She's a nobody to you, then a voice, then a murderer, then the one holding your leash, then she lies to you about her "twin" sister, then etc. etc. etc. You never know if what she says is absolutely true.

The problem is, she comes across as a person who would rather be blunt, not mysterious. You'd have to assume that's an act. If it is, then there's the fact she doesn't remain mysterious. If you romance her, there's every indication you're getting behind her barriers, and none that it's all an act. Had Bioware intended more hidden depths, they'd have given us a bit of an indication instead of presenting a perfect act. You see a conspiracy with no evidence - of course I can't prove there is none, but that doesn't mean your claim is plausible. 

Sensual and Attractive: Everyone comments of her body and looks (even her as they were designed to "give [her] an edge"). She accentuates them with form fitting clothing. And the camera work emphasises her sexuality.

OK.

And she leads the lover into danger: Miranda loves Shepard, Shepard destroys the base and quits Cerberus, Miranda still loves Shepard and still loves her sister, Cerberus controls her sister's well being. That doesn't scream danger to you? And that is all within ME2.

(1) And is this a danger Shepard wouldn't be in if didn't love Miranda? He went on dangerous missions for all of his team in ME2.
(2) My Shepard doesn't destroy the base, and in my games Miranda mostly doesn't resign. Not what?

We don't see the outcome of Miranda's romance as it is reserved for ME3. And you don't see any possibility of it becoming a huge problem? None at all? No split allegiences? No conflicting loves? The end of ME2 is just a happily ever after for her and Shepard?

Of course I see possibilities. But (1) Shepard has split allegiances between Cerbers and the Alliance/Council anyway, (2) we did discuss the possibility that Miranda's presence might adversely affect Shepard's ability to fight the Reapers in ME3, but that's a role that can be played by any LI, and (3) we don't think Bioware would single out Miranda for a role adversely affecting Shepard.

You're right. It doesn't happen within ME2. But ME2 isn't the ending. It is just the middle chapter. I'm putting forth why Miranda fits the bill of the Femme Fatale up to the great fall. The lack of the ending seems to be a huge handicap for anyone who cannot even entertain the idea and that displays a lack of imagination.

Do not take disagreement as a lack of imagination.

Point is there are clear and evident evidences that exist within the character in ME2. Those who do not see them are choosing to ignore them. I listed just about all of them in previous posts and reiterated the main points here and all anyone has done to refute the claims is said "Nuh uh...". I have presented solid, in game evidence, not speculation or assumption, except for my own prediction of the possible fall that may or may not be coming.

Actually, the points are not as clear as you claim. This is your interpretation of in-game facts, not in-game facts themselves, apart from the obvious one that Miranda is very attractive and not beyond using that to get what she wants. As this is interpretation, you have no right to say that people who disagree with you are ignoring facts.

I don't appreciate the tone people are taking with me. As I am being attacked I am getting defensive. When I get defensive my speech becomes more aggressive. You came into this discussion on a high horse of false authority and accused me of trolling. Of course I am going to respond aggressively. What? You expect me to roll over or something?

I did not accuse you of trolling (it may have been a bit hasty, yes) because of the way you replied to me, but because you claimed - and continue to claim - that everyone else but you is wrong on flimsy evidence. In the quoted post alone there are two instances of you claiming people who don't agree with you lack imagination or ignore the obvious.

Edit:
I agree with Mondo47's analysis except for the point Elyvern makes, where I agree with her reply.

I'm not going to rehash this entire argument. But I will say, again, that of course Miranda is only a Femme Fatale for Shepard when Shepard is male, romances her, destroys the base, and retains her loyalty and love.

Really this all boils down to thematic execution of the character. Sure Jack and Tali and every other woman ever could be called a Femme Fatale if we wanted to call them that. But Miranda is the only one given the thematic attention to support the claim. I view her choice of clothing as just that, her choice, and as she is an intelligent woman and realizes that her looks were designed for a purpose, she must know what effect her choice in clothing has on others. I also view the camera angles as a purposeful and measured choice by the game designers to emphasise her in this role.

But yeah. I guess that it where I get most of the theory. I assume that the game designers did nothing "just because" and executed every aspect of their game with solid intent. I invest each character as a full and complex being and not just "she wears that because a designer put her in it but it doesn't fit her character at all" or "the designer made Jack bald, Jack didn't choose to shave her head". Essentially, I invest every aspect of the character with that character. If Miranda is wearing that outfit, she must have worn it with intent.

What makes Miranda different from Jack and Tali is mostly what is emphasized in each case. Miranda is hyper-sexualized. Meanwhile, Jack is desexualized (her bare flesh hardly ever being viewed as erotic, but just an aspect of her character). And no attention is given to Tali's body at all, all emphasis is on her personality, her suit acting as a literal wall hiding her sexuality.

And as to the lack of imagination, and ignoring evidence, in refusing to accept that the given ending is in fact how the game ends is just that. You ignore the circumstances of the ending and refuse to imagine where that ending could lead. As well as ignoring the prevading themes that surround that character throughout the game, dismissing them as "innappropriate designer choices" which I do not believe exist.

And again. This is only the case when Shepard makes a very specific series of choices. There are a lot of different choices where these events can work out differently, and I ackowledge that, and in light of these events she is not a Femme Fatale for Shepard. But the themes remain unchanged. Only the action shifts. The presence of the Femme Fatale does not presuppose a specific ending. In many stories Femme Fatale's are introduced and never come o fruition. These are failed Femme Fatales and in the case of events not working out in this one specific sequence, that is just what Mirdana is, a failed Femme Fatale.

[enayasoul]

Yes, I agree. I don't think she would or have ever seduced Shepard at all. I do think that she would have done it to others if it was necessary in other missions but I truly believe she was not doing that to Shepard. She even stated at the beginning she wasn't looking for a friend.

[enayasoul]

jtav wrote...

I can think of a few scenarios that would take the sting out of a cameo I fear is inevitable. Miranda becoming the Illusive Woman. Miranda becoming a SB agent. Mostly I want her to be doing something important, not retiring from the fight to protect her sister or similar. My other big fear is that she'll defrost so completely as to not be Miranda. I like my ruthless yet idealistic superspy. I want her back, not a Paragon-ized clone. That would be worse than her not appearing at all.

If I'm wrong, and they do manage to bring her back as a full-time team member, I hope they don't skimp on non-romance content. I like playing FemShep and I like Miranda better sans romance.

I can see her becoming an SB agent for Liara or a part of the winning team. Shepard's team. I would be VERY disappointed if she wasn't in ME3!  I would think she would want to see this to the very end, regardless if she was romanced or not.  I hope she keeps some her "ice" about her...   I hope they don't skimp out on some romance content between the too. I want it and I am sure others do too. Miranda forever.

Modifié par enayasoul, 27 octobre 2010 - 11:06 .

[Ryzaki]

DEM HIPS.

I'm sorry I had to say it.

But yes Miranda never hit on my Dude Shep. Not in the slightest. Even if some of them wish she would.

[tommyt_1994]

enayasoul wrote...


I can see her becoming an SB agent for Liara or a part of the winning team. Shepard's team. I would be VERY disappointed if she wasn't in ME3!  I would think she would want to see this to the very end, regardless if she was romanced or not.  I hope she keeps some her "ice" about her...   I hope they don't skimp out on some romance content between the too. I want it and I am sure others do too. Miranda forever.

*Nods profusely* This post is full 'o win. Miranda is my favorite romance and I will probably keep a 10 foot pole between me and any fututre Bioware games if Miranda's role in ME3 is poorly done until I know they're done correctly.

I'm actually playing through DA:O right now (first playthrough) and I was curious, which romance option (for male characters) do other die-hard Miri fans prefer? I think both Morrigan and Lelilena are interesting and I do not really know as of yet who I'llend up romancing. I'd like to watch some romance dialogue on youtube, but all I've found is spoiler-filled. Can anyome here testify to the quality of the two romance options? A romance similar to the quality and feeling of Miranda's would be preferable. Something of high quality is all^_^

Modifié par tommyt_1994, 27 octobre 2010 - 11:39 .

[ShrinkingFish]

Femme Fatale's don't have to actively hit on anyone in order to be a Femme Fatale... still.



I wish I could remember the name of one of the books where this happens but I'm going to have to search through my shelf and find it because I just cannot remember.



Still. A good Femme Fatale will not show any active interest in her target and deny all interest while remaining openly seductive and sensual. Not saying Miranda necessarily did it on purpose. But not saying their attraction was a legitimate accident either. We don't know for sure. After all, Miranda has proved she is not above lying to Shepard when it serves her purposes. People just have a tendency to trust characters by their word unless explicitly indicated that it is untrue.

[enayasoul]

tommyt_1994 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...


I can see her becoming an SB agent for Liara or a part of the winning team. Shepard's team. I would be VERY disappointed if she wasn't in ME3!  I would think she would want to see this to the very end, regardless if she was romanced or not.  I hope she keeps some her "ice" about her...   I hope they don't skimp out on some romance content between the too. I want it and I am sure others do too. Miranda forever.

*Nods profusely* This post is full 'o win. Miranda is my favorite romance and I will probably keep a 10 foot pole between me and any fututre Bioware games if Miranda's role in ME3 is poorly done until I know they're done correctly.

I'm actually playing through DA:O right now (first playthrough) and I was curious, which romance option (for male characters) do other die-hard Miri fans prefer? I think both Morrigan and Lelilena are interesting and I do not really know as of yet who I'llend up romancing. I'd like to watch some romance dialogue on youtube, but all I've found is spoiler-filled. Can anyome here testify to the quality of the two romance options?

I went for Morrigan.  

[jtav]

I liked Alistair. Which probably explains a lot of why I'm so often at odds with the thread.



Finished Tuchanka. If the was ever a planet where Miranda should have a lot to say, this is it. Uvenk's claims of Grunt being unnatural are likely something she's heard all her life. Grunt is another Miranda, except for the krogan. Mordin's mission examines species-wide infertility in some depth. I still believe she'd destroy the cure, but I can see the krogan plight arousing her empathy. I can also see her thinking that empathy doesn't excuse being a fool.

[fongiel24]

hooahguy wrote...

By the way Yannkee, those changes that
you did, I see them in the game, but my performance is taking a hit:
every now and then it will freeze up for a few seconds, then continue.
This never happened before I changed settings. Oh well.

Watch the AA. Anything higher than 4x will trash 90% of PCs out there, even purpose-built gaming rigs. ME2 just isn't very well optimized for a lot of graphics options. I saw my framerates drop to less than half sometimes when I boosted the AA from 2x to 4x.

tommyt_1994 wrote...

I'm actually playing through DA:O right now (first playthrough) and I was curious, which romance option (for male characters) do other die-hard Miri fans prefer? I think both Morrigan and Lelilena are interesting and I do not really know as of yet who I'llend up romancing. I'd like to watch some romance dialogue on youtube, but all I've found is spoiler-filled. Can anyome here testify to the quality of the two romance options? A romance similar to the quality and feeling of Miranda's would be preferable. Something of high quality is all^_^

I personally prefer Morrigan's. I find Morrigan a more interesting character than Leliana and Leliana's romance is too "sugary". They're actually both fairly well written, but Morrigan's has a bit of a twist to it while Leliana's is more conventional in its progression.

Modifié par fongiel24, 28 octobre 2010 - 02:15 .

[Ryzaki]

jtav wrote...

I liked Alistair. Which probably explains a lot of why I'm so often at odds with the thread.

Finished Tuchanka. If the was ever a planet where Miranda should have a lot to say, this is it. Uvenk's claims of Grunt being unnatural are likely something she's heard all her life. Grunt is another Miranda, except for the krogan. Mordin's mission examines species-wide infertility in some depth. I still believe she'd destroy the cure, but I can see the krogan plight arousing her empathy. I can also see her thinking that empathy doesn't excuse being a fool.

Don't worry! I like Alistair too! He's a loveable moron! I'd see her being empathetic slightly and yeah I agree about the destruction of the cure. ...Good grief I hate being a Paragon during Mordin's LM. Paragon Shep is such a douche (also I love the hypocrisy: MORDIN YOU MURDER! *Final paragon interrupt* Mordin...you're not a murderer.)

Dude wait what?

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 octobre 2010 - 02:24 .

[Elyvern]

tommyt_1994 wrote...

I'm actually playing through DA:O right now (first playthrough) and I was curious, which romance option (for male characters) do other die-hard Miri fans prefer? I think both Morrigan and Lelilena are interesting and I do not really know as of yet who I'llend up romancing. I'd like to watch some romance dialogue on youtube, but all I've found is spoiler-filled. Can anyome here testify to the quality of the two romance options? A romance similar to the quality and feeling of Miranda's would be preferable. Something of high quality is all^_^

Alot of people feel that Miranda is basically Morrigan in space, in the sense that both start off kind of hostile to you and you have to work your ass off to earn their respect and affection (Morrigan more so by a far shot). Of all the female characters in both games, they're probably the most similar, so there's your answer. Although, I'll confess, Leliana grew on me alot. Fortunately, unlike ME2, you can actually romance both of them at the same time. I know it's cheating but kek! I just roleplay my warden as a manwh*re.
 
But I'll say this unequivocably - DAO romances are by far better than the ME ones in terms of length and content, so either choice you go, you won't be disappointed. You may want to... uhh mod the romance scenes though. The originals are gawdamn offputting.

Modifié par Elyvern, 28 octobre 2010 - 02:42 .

[tommyt_1994]

Elyvern wrote...

tommyt_1994 wrote...

I'm actually playing through DA:O right now (first playthrough) and I was curious, which romance option (for male characters) do other die-hard Miri fans prefer? I think both Morrigan and Lelilena are interesting and I do not really know as of yet who I'llend up romancing. I'd like to watch some romance dialogue on youtube, but all I've found is spoiler-filled. Can anyome here testify to the quality of the two romance options? A romance similar to the quality and feeling of Miranda's would be preferable. Something of high quality is all^_^

Alot of people feel that Miranda is basically Morrigan in space, in the sense that both start off kind of hostile to you and you have to work your ass off to earn their respect and affection (Morrigan more so by a far shot). Of all the female characters in both games, they're probably the most similar, so there's your answer. Although, I'll confess, Leliana grew on me alot. Fortunately, unlike ME2, you can actually romance both of them at the same time. I know it's cheating but kek! I just roleplay my warden as a manwh*re.

And I'll say this unequivocably - DAO romances are by far better than the ME ones in terms of length and content, so either choice you go, you won't be disappointed. You may want to... uhh mod the romance scenes though. The originals are gawdamn offputting.

I've heard the comparisons between Miranda and Morrigan, I think Morrigan's pretty interesting. And I know, I've heard about the underwear dry humping or whatever it is, too bad I'm on the 360 and quite literally know nothing about modding.

[Ryzaki]

No. I hate Morrigan with the passion of a thousand suns. She is not like Miranda. Miranda wouldn't kick a stray puppy if it gave her a power boost. >_> Miranda would realize the value of helping people to help herself, Miranda wouldn't go "lulz kill em all!" when attacking a group of innocent civilians. <_<

Miranda's not a ignorant b**** either.

*coughs* Anyways...ignoring my mini rant

I can't play as a manwh*re. All my Wardens end up being saints or sticking with one LI (they don't even go to the pearl, and the one that did just did so to unlock the duelist spec (and no there wasn't any sex with Isabella. *shudders* Why the hell would I want to sleep with Anora?)

And agreed with Elyvern: The DA romances are miles above the ME ones. And yes the original scenes are horrible.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 octobre 2010 - 02:40 .

[Elyvern]

Ryzaki wrote...

No. I hate Morrigan with the passion of a thousand suns. She is not like Miranda. Miranda wouldn't kick a stray puppy if it gave her a power boost. >_> Miranda would realize the value of helping people to help herself, Miranda wouldn't go "lulz kill em all!" when attacking a group of innocent civilians. <_<

Miranda's not a ignorant b**** either.

I thought the same too, especially when she disapproves of helping that merchant in Lothering. I was like "woman....if I help him, he gives me discounts. Think long-term!" But I will also admit that part of my frustration came from how she bloody hell disapproves of everything I did, lol.  But still, of all the characters in ME and DAO, both women have the biggest similarities, which is the question tommy wanted answered.

*coughs* Anyways...ignoring my mini rant

I can't play as a manwh*re. All my Wardens end up being saints or sticking with one LI (they don't even go to the pearl, and the one that did just did so to unlock the duelist spec (and no there wasn't any sex with Isabella. *shudders* Why the hell would I want to sleep with Anora?)

The reason why I double-timed was because I dislike DAO's combat system and really didn't want to replay it to see both romances. I drew the line at romancing Zhevran and ********** Anora though.

Edit: to reduce spoilers for tommy,hah!
Edit 2: Also, pity you're on the 360, no way to mod it then. Annnnd forgot to mention the biggest point: both Morrigan and Miranda are the morally ambiguous choices. Leliana is very paragon-ish although you can convert her to a more renegade outlook.

Modifié par Elyvern, 28 octobre 2010 - 03:19 .

[Ryzaki]

Gah. My frustration comes from the fact that she refuses to see: She's not that screwd, manipulative or world wise as she thinks she is. And the fact that I can't call her out on it. >_< Tis rage inducing. I guess...she certainly isn't like Leliana.



I love DAO's combat system. ...I actually romanced Zev even though I felt violated afterwards. ...And yeah not touching anora. Not touching that with a pole. I did it once. (on the same playthrough with the Zev romance) never again. NEVER!



*coughs*



Uh...anyways...I really wished I had more convos with Miri as a friend.

[fongiel24]

I really like Anora. I've actually done a playthrough as a male human PC where I romanced nobody and ended up marrying her.

[t3HPrO]

On a mostly unrelated note, I'm designing a house for Yvonne Strahovski! Theoretically speaking of course. It's for my architecture project, and I'm currently DERP-ing over the prototype on Google Sketchup. However, every prototype looks like crap or is hard to build on GSK. Anyone got any pro tips?

[Ieldra]

ShrinkingFish wrote...
I'm not going to rehash this entire argument. But I will say, again, that of course Miranda is only a Femme Fatale for Shepard when Shepard is male, romances her, destroys the base, and retains her loyalty and love.

Again, I repeat that this requires the whole romance in ME2 to be a perfect act. Sorry if I find this highly implausible.

Really this all boils down to thematic execution of the character. Sure Jack and Tali and every other woman ever could be called a Femme Fatale if we wanted to call them that. But Miranda is the only one given the thematic attention to support the claim. I view her choice of clothing as just that, her choice, and as she is an intelligent woman and realizes that her looks were designed for a purpose, she must know what effect her choice in clothing has on others. I also view the camera angles as a purposeful and measured choice by the game designers to emphasise her in this role.

I'm beginning to suspect you have no idea of what being seductive really means. As a means of allure, Miranda's standard outfit and the camera angle are about the cheapest imaginable way to go about it. They push her sexual attributes into people's faces, and that's not seductive put pushy, and often crosses the line where things become repulsive instead. Indeed, I think that they don't fit her character because her backgrund indicates she would be seductive in a classy and stylish way.
I also think the camera angles are a way to make fun of the cliché by overemphasizing it - recall that scene where the "investigate" option is centered on her ass. You can't seriously believe we are supposed to take that at face value, can you? Enyala's comments are a clear indication the designers were well aware of how silly and inappropriate the outfit looks. 

But yeah. I guess that it where I get most of the theory. I assume that the game designers did nothing "just because" and executed every aspect of their game with solid intent. I invest each character as a full and complex being and not just "she wears that because a designer put her in it but it doesn't fit her character at all" or "the designer made Jack bald, Jack didn't choose to shave her head". Essentially, I invest every aspect of the character with that character. If Miranda is wearing that outfit, she must have worn it with intent.

Corollary: there must be an in-world purpose behind Jack going into a combat mission naked. In SPACE! Without an air supply!! Ever heard of "artistic license"? Miranda's outfit is a clear example for the Rule of Sexy. Indeed the game designers had an intent: they wanted to invest Miranda with as much visual sexiness as possible, with plausibility taking a back seat in the process. TV, movies, games, any form of visual art is full of outfits no sane person would wear in reality - and you say we should invent an in-world purpose for it? Miranda at least has the dubious distinction that a sexy outfit fits her character concept somewhat, but to seriously believe any kind of operative, even one like Miranda, would wear such things on combat missions or while strolling through Omega beggars comprehension. 

What makes Miranda different from Jack and Tali is mostly what is emphasized in each case. Miranda is hyper-sexualized. Meanwhile, Jack is desexualized (her bare flesh hardly ever being viewed as erotic, but just an aspect of her character). And no attention is given to Tali's body at all, all emphasis is on her personality, her suit acting as a literal wall hiding her sexuality.

Are you blind? Tali's body is as sexy as they could make an alien look while still keeping it somewhat alien, and the mask gives her a stronger aura of mystery than Miranda ever exhibits.

And as to the lack of imagination, and ignoring evidence, in refusing to accept that the given ending is in fact how the game ends is just that. You ignore the circumstances of the ending and refuse to imagine where that ending could lead. As well as ignoring the prevading themes that surround that character throughout the game, dismissing them as "innappropriate designer choices" which I do not believe exist.

I have one game where my Shepard destroyed the base, Miranda resigns from Cerberus and they are together. That's how the game ends, yes. And now? There's nothing more to be said. Anything more is speculation, and if you think your invention of a possible future is more than that then you're dogmatic. 

All in all, if I may recite Maelon: "For such a smart man, you always had trouble to accept evidence that disagreed with your preconceptions." You make Miranda fit your preconceptions of those "pervading themes" you like to quote. There is not a shred of tangible evidence for Miranda being the femme fatale she was advertised as, not for Shepard, anyway. I'll tell you what such could be: if you could romance Miranda without having her loyalty, and as a result she'd follow TIM's orders at the Collector base and prevent Shepard from destroying it, while without romancing her, Shepard wouldn't trust her enough to give her the opportunity. That would make her a femme fatale. I would have liked such a more complex scenario, I would've preferred it to what we've got, where romance and loyalty play no part in how the confrontation with TIM goes. But that's not what happens, not even remotely. Miranda is not a femme fatale for Shepard. What's in her history is another story, but that's not what we're talking about.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 28 octobre 2010 - 09:33 .

[Jebel Krong]

fongiel24 wrote...

I think ME3 is harder to call than ME2 was in terms of guessing who will come back because of the suicide mission. The "anybody could be dead" mechanic means Bioware has kind of almost painted themselves into a corner. I say almost, because they could still rig up some sort of ridiculously customizable squadmate recruitment system, but this would mean investing resources into missions involving teammates that didn't make it into ME3 for some players. This problem could have been avoided easily by just having scripted deaths in ME2.

the biggest reason i expect a new squad, with the me1/2 survivors sadly relegated to the sidelines. still, Morinth proved it's not impossible to work the extra effort and include such characters.