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[Elyvern]

Given that we are Shepard and can pretty much rationalise Shepard's motivations,. yes, I meant from Miranda's POV.

Modifié par Elyvern, 11 novembre 2010 - 10:32 .

[The_Numerator]

Well, I only mention both perspectives for rhetorical reasons, since it sets me up to illustrate that both have the same solution.

She wasn't reassembling Shepard for any personal reasons. It was just a job. A job someone else assigned her to perform. And even once Shepard was back together, she didn't even like him... Is it alright if I just speak of Shepard in the masculine here? I don't think anything is lost if I don't speak in complete generalities.

Anyway, once he's back together, she doesn't even like him to begin with. Any sort of pygmalion issue is dependent entirely on the motivations of the creator for doing the creating. She didn't "fall in love" with her creation while she was making it, and when her work was done, she didn't care one way or another about him beyond getting him to do the job that she put him back together for.

It was, "Hey ******-- Wake up. Get off the table and get moving before you get yourself killed."

XD

Oh man. Makes me laugh. Anyway. From her perspective, she'd been a glorified physician, who'd done nothing but restore an exceptionally sick patient to health. Or more detached still, she just supervised actual physicians restoring an exceptionally sick patient to health. No emotional investment on her part whatsoever.

As for the other situation, Shepard is just as aware that she was just going her job. It could have just as easily been some other Cerberus operative supervising his "rehabilitation"-- Any sense of debt or obligation toward her would be misplaced-- It was the Illusive Man who foot the bill, not Miranda.

Modifié par The_Numerator, 11 novembre 2010 - 10:47 .

[Elyvern]

The_Numerator wrote...
Anyway, once he's back together, she doesn't even like him to begin with. Any sort of pygmalion issue is dependent entirely on the motivations of the creator for doing the creating. She didn't "fall in love" with her creation while she was making it, and when her work was done, she didn't care one way or another about him beyond getting him to do the job that she put him back together for.

Well, yes I can rationalise that there wasn't a shred of emotional investment on Miranda's part even up till Shepard gets up and moves around. But let's extrapolate along the romance path. As I mentioned in my previous post, she rationlises her attraction to him to a pretty extensive clinical degree, which means there is no way the thought of her role in his ressurection doesn't cross her mind. And that experience has to inform her rationalisation over why she's falling for him. How would her impression of that experience change looking at it from a romantic context?

As for the other situation, Shepard is just as aware that she was just going her job. It could have just as easily been some other Cerberus operative supervising his "rehabilitation"-- Any sense of debt or obligation toward her would be misplaced-- It was the Illusive Man who foot the bill, not Miranda.

Actually, my Shepard grows more and more appreciative that she was the one responsible for bringing him back. That's after he gets over the shock of being rudely brought back to life and irrevocably changed by his body being replaced by bio-synthetic parts. Barring the need to stay alive so he could do his duty fighting the reapers, he's ready to put his life in her hands. He sees her as kind of like his caretaker, and he draws strength from knowing she has and has had his back no matter what.

[The_Numerator]

Elyvern wrote...
Well, yes I can rationalise that there wasn't a shred of emotional investment on Miranda's part even up till Shepard gets up and moves around. But let's extrapolate along the romance path. As I mentioned in my previous post, she rationlises her attraction to him to a pretty extensive clinical degree, which means there is no way the thought of her role in his ressurection doesn't cross her mind. And that experience has to inform her rationalisation over why she's falling for him. How would her impression of that experience change looking at it from a romantic context?

Did you mean "rationalise", or "recognize" that first time you used the word? I'm just a little thrown by your first use of it, but the second time is fine.

Rationalizing her feelings... Right, well I don't know if that's the right word for it-- Are you referring to her tendency to be hyper-analytical? Then if I understand right, your interest is in trying to determine to what extent her role in his recovery affected her thinking.

If this is so, then the answer basically, it comes down to her intelligence-- Would she have considered the possibility that her involvement in his recovery might be influencing her? Yes. Because she's exactly the scrupulous type to go out of her way to try and figure out every angle. It's exactly that quality that leads to all the self-doubting and second guessing she does to herself.

But by the same token, it's the same acute intellect which assures us that she is smart enoug to recognize immediately the ridiculousness of the premise: Whatever elaborate scenarios she runs through in her mind, she will recognize that she is not such a simple-minded individual that she would let some pedestrian "symbolism" read into tne nature of her past relationship with Shepard cloud her present judgments.

In brief, if she did consider the possibility of some pygmalion-ish dynamic having developed, she'd dismiss out of hand the idea of having allowed such flimsy subtext to affect her judgment. In fact, were I in her position, and something like that was suggested of me, I'd feel rather insulted. So I can't imagine she'd be thrilled by the implication either.

Elyvern wrote...
Actually, my Shepard grows more and more appreciative that she was the one responsible for bringing him back. That's after he gets over the shock of being rudely brought back to life and irrevocably changed by his body being replaced by bio-synthetic parts. Barring the need to stay alive so he could do his duty fighting the reapers, he's ready to put his life in her hands. He sees her as kind of like his caretaker, and he draws strength from knowing she has and has had his back no matter what.

Ah, no no no no no, I'm sorry, I wasn't clear-- I'm not saying you shouldn't be grateful to her for doing her job well: I was damn grateful for it! I was talking about feeling heavily indebted to her, as if the whole business of Shepard's recovery had been orchestrated by her alone, to the extent that that sense of obligation, of "owing" her something, influences his decision making, particularly as concerns his feelings for Miranda. In short, I was commenting on the inappropriateness of, to put it bluntly, giving Miranda more credit for all of it than she deserved.

[Ieldra]

The_Numerator wrote...

Elyvern wrote...
Well, yes I can rationalise that there wasn't a shred of emotional investment on Miranda's part even up till Shepard gets up and moves around. But let's extrapolate along the romance path. As I mentioned in my previous post, she rationlises her attraction to him to a pretty extensive clinical degree, which means there is no way the thought of her role in his ressurection doesn't cross her mind. And that experience has to inform her rationalisation over why she's falling for him. How would her impression of that experience change looking at it from a romantic context?

Did you mean "rationalise", or "recognize" that first time you used the word? I'm just a little thrown by your first use of it, but the second time is fine.

Rationalizing her feelings... Right, well I don't know if that's the right word for it-- Are you referring to her tendency to be hyper-analytical? Then if I understand right, your interest is in trying to determine to what extent her role in his recovery affected her thinking.

If this is so, then the answer basically, it comes down to her intelligence-- Would she have considered the possibility that her involvement in his recovery might be influencing her? Yes. Because she's exactly the scrupulous type to go out of her way to try and figure out every angle. It's exactly that quality that leads to all the self-doubting and second guessing she does to herself.

But by the same token, it's the same acute intellect which assures us that she is smart enoug to recognize immediately the ridiculousness of the premise: Whatever elaborate scenarios she runs through in her mind, she will recognize that she is not such a simple-minded individual that she would let some pedestrian "symbolism" read into tne nature of her past relationship with Shepard cloud her present judgments.

In brief, if she did consider the possibility of some pygmalion-ish dynamic having developed, she'd dismiss out of hand the idea of having allowed such flimsy subtext to affect her judgment. In fact, were I in her position, and something like that was suggested of me, I'd feel rather insulted. So I can't imagine she'd be thrilled by the implication either.

I think you're completely off-track here. Miranda is quite aware that all the biological mechanisms of attraction - which I have her refer to as a "chemical survival program" in a fanfic - will and do influence anyone's emotional judgment, including her own. There's no way around it, it's part of what we are as an organic species. The same reasoning would apply to psychological factors like that suggested Pygmalion dynamic: she'd consider the possibility that it might be a factor in her being attracted to him, but rather than dismissing it, she'd acknowledge it (as a possibility), for the idea has a certain plausibility and cannot be dismissed as ridiculous by a rational mind. She might want to determine if there really is such an effect on her, but chances are she can't because she's lacking the necessary data.

The important thing is that in the end, it doesn't matter: the attraction is there and the only thing that remains is to decide whether or not to act on it. The same intelligence that lets her decipher its mechanisms lets her recognize it makes no difference where the attraction is coming from - in the end, we're all programmed, by our genes, by our culture, by our personal history, and once you're aware of them, whether you let any of the underlying mechanisms taint the attraction you're feeling is your own choice. You can let cultural prejudice take precedence, or you can act like the independent mind she is and acknowledge it doesn't matter as long as it doesn't have any adverse effect on any resulting relationship. Note that does not mean she'd always act on the attraction. There are other factors at work, emotional and rational, that influence that decision. But the underlying cause of the attraction doesn't matter.

Which brings me to another point: genetic compatibility is a factor in sexual attraction. I think the possibility that her father might have programmed into her a tendency to fall for "someone like Shepard" would be a far greater concern for Miranda than a Pygmalion dynamic. That, too, wouldn't matter in the end, for again it's hers - and Shepard's - decision what to do with their relationship, but it would be harder to dismiss from her mind, and it would remain something of a "taint" until she's dealt with the ghost of her father in her mind.

Heh....all this nicely illustrates some of the problems a hyper-intelligent person like Miranda might have when she discovers she's attracted to someone. At some point, you just have to switch off all the second-guessing and enjoy the ride. Not easy for someone who analyzes things as automatically as other people eat and sleep.

@Elyvern:
This might also answer your question.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 12 novembre 2010 - 09:17 .

[Ieldra]

Phew....long posts here. I hope it's not too daunting for anyone's first look into this thread. Let's break it up again a little....

[Dean_the_Young]

Here's a challenge for anyone willing to do a little fan writing/musing:



If Miranda hadn't been sterile, (and likely then Oriana never commissioned), would she have still left her father? Or was Oriana the straw that broke the camel's back?



If she hadn't, how might she have met Shepard? Since it's such a small universe, I mean.

[GodWood]

Dean_the_Young wrote...
If she hadn't, how might she have met Shepard? Since it's such a small universe, I mean.

iPartner.

[Ieldra]

Dean_the_Young wrote...
Here's a challenge for anyone willing to do a little fan writing/musing:

If Miranda hadn't been sterile, (and likely then Oriana never commissioned), would she have still left her father? Or was Oriana the straw that broke the camel's back?

If she hadn't, how might she have met Shepard? Since it's such a small universe, I mean.

There are three factors involved in her leaving:
(1) The fate of her older sisters.
(2) Whatever made her leavetaking a parting at gunpoint - it must have been serious if guns were involved.
(3) Oriana

A few (surprisingly few) fanfics explore that topic. Sorry for the shameless self-promotion, but I think my (not yet finished) fanfic Promethean Legacy is the only one that deals with all three.

As for her infertility, the medical report says it's caused by progressive damage, so we tend to assume it's a recent development and not a genetic condition. Oriana's creation was likely due to other factors, also speculated about in the abovementioned fanfic. There the reason is that Oriana will become a stronger biotic because the surgery that makes her one has been undergone significant development since Miranda's operation and can be applied earlier. Of course, their father won't get the chance to realize that plan.

If Miranda had stayed with her father, I don't think there's a big chance that she and Shepard would have ever met. They'd move in completely different circles, and the galaxy is big. But low chances are not zero, and If anyone wants to explore that in a fanfic, there are several possibilities. I won't be the one, though - I already have two fanfics to finish.

@Godwood:
A meeting on IPartners would be much too unlikely to take serious, but I can imagine it as part of something humorous. It could be extremely funny.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 12 novembre 2010 - 10:39 .

[philiposophy]

If I'm reading the timelines correctly, Oriana's arrival coinciding with Miranda reaching maturity. I think what happened is that Miranda became old enough to really think about what her father was like and what was best for her. At the same time as this, she saw Oriana and that really put it in perspective to her that she didn't want anyone else to go through the same things.

So I think Oriana may have been the straw that broke the camel's back. I think Miranda would have fled anyway.

[Elyvern]

@ Numerator, Ieldra - thanks for giving some thought to my question. I think Ieldra hit the nail on the head there, because even if the notion of a Pygmalion complex is distasteful, Miranda wouldn't let that stop her from considering it as a possibility. And I agree very strongly that she'd probably be second-guessing if there was a pattern to the kind of men she goes for and if that could be something her father genetically encoded into her.

Part of the reason why I raised my question was to generate some discussion on the thread, the other part was looking for some input on the subject because I'm looking to explore it in my fic, and appreciated some brainstorming, tangential as it may be. I've always felt she capitulated too fast, agreed to a relationship with Shepard too fast, especially when you consider that none of what was just discussed takes any kind of front stage in her reasoning, which was primarily the mission was too important to jeopardise. And assuming that she would be furiously rationalising with herself all the biological implications involved.

I'm actually intrigued by the idea that her father could've programmed her to be biologically attracted to certain types of people, except that's not a simple thing to qualify with the evidence we get in-game. Jacob would probably come into play as well, and the fact that she considers a clean medical record the main pre-requisite for a romp in the sack probably another. But all of that probably just applies to the physical realm--physical healthy men with well-toned muscular bodies, and the ability to get jobs done with their physical prowess.

Funnily enough, the possibility of intelligence quotients doesn't seem to come into play at all here, and I keep thinking she would probably be dissatisfied with a partner who doesn't remotely match up as her intellectual equal. (few people would, but a Shepard who thinks and shows his ability to lead via thinking may be enough for her whereas Jacob doesn't exhibit that trait at all). A pre-programmed tendency to just go for healthy men feels like the regular status quo, given that we can't definitively say other factors come into play at all.

Also, how would that influence her attraction to women or aliens for that matter? If her father meant for her to kickstart whatever dynasty he had in mind, would he actively rid her genetic template of homosexual and xenophilic tendencies to put it bluntly? This one seems highly likely and even desirable for him to do that so he can reduce behavioural complications. Eventually, biological tendencies can be overcome via mental reasoning but I would imagine that may require her to struggle harder to reach a particular state of mind than a non-engineered person would.

[hooahguy]

Ok guys! New chapter to my fanfic, I featured Miri a lot in this one.



http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6466212/3/

[enayasoul]

Brainstorming in my fic two possibilities and what would be more believable:

Her Shadowbroker dossier...

Playing the MaleShep:

Do you think Miranda already knew she was infertile before the suicide mission? 
(I don't believe she would use ipartners other than having sex.. although, some part thinks that what if she did it for medical research or something...ie maybe shepard's parts or something... hehe... her comment about wanting to take a shower and decontaminate herself has me thinking... that maybe he was a disgusting pig? haha)

If not? Considering that they would all die... think she would risk unprotected sex.  Given that she knows Shepard medical record...  and considered.  Why not give in to having some fun with Shepard. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]  She knew it was going to be a one way trip, why would it matter now.

Then Shepard does the impossible and they all survive!

And it was Miranda that said she would talk to Orianna after the mission was over.  So, it's possible that if it was in that order... she could have checked later on after the suicide mission to see if she was pregnant by Shepard.

Since I didn't do the DLC until after the suicide mission in this playthrough. 

So far, I haven't hinted either way yet.  Just the fact that it was a routine test not long ago when Shepard asked.


Also if the benign neoplasm was a recent thing. maybe she was exposed to something that caused the problem to develop.


Getting shot with whatever that weapon was in the Collector Base, Red Sand containers exposure?

So many possibilities...

Modifié par enayasoul, 12 novembre 2010 - 02:19 .

[Ieldra]

Elyvern wrote...
I'm actually intrigued by the idea that her father could've programmed her to be biologically attracted to certain types of people, except that's not a simple thing to qualify with the evidence we get in-game. Jacob would probably come into play as well, and the fact that she considers a clean medical record the main pre-requisite for a romp in the sack probably another. But all of that probably just applies to the physical realm--physical healthy men with well-toned muscular bodies, and the ability to get jobs done with their physical prowess.

Actually, things can be far more subtle at the genetic level. Current knowledge, IIRC, is that markers of physical health are the prime consideration, but beyond that, partners which would increase genetic diversity in the offspring are more likely to be attracted to each other, with the attraction triggered by certain pheromones. It's not limited to the openly physical.

Funnily enough, the possibility of intelligence quotients doesn't seem to come into play at all here, and I keep thinking she would probably be dissatisfied with a partner who doesn't remotely match up as her intellectual equal. (few people would, but a Shepard who thinks and shows his ability to lead via thinking may be enough for her whereas Jacob doesn't exhibit that trait at all).

Almost certainly. That's why I don't like it that Shepard's acting so dumb at times. It makes him less attractive to Miranda. Often you can avoid that in the game, but sometimes you can't, and then he is....well....not worthy of her. I guess the Shepard in your fic is a bit smarter than that.... his strategic intelligence at least seems to be beyond question.

Also, how would that influence her attraction to women or aliens for that matter? If her father meant for her to kickstart whatever dynasty he had in mind, would he actively rid her genetic template of homosexual and xenophilic tendencies to put it bluntly? This one seems highly likely and even desirable for him to do that so he can reduce behavioural complications. Eventually, biological tendencies can be overcome via mental reasoning but I would imagine that may require her to struggle harder to reach a particular state of mind than a non-engineered person would.

I think he would likely have done something like that. As with the other aspects, it's still a gamble, but it would increase the chance of him getting what he wants. I'm rather indifferent about that aspect, though, since I don't care for xenophilia and it's very unlikey Miranda will become suddenly attracted to women in ME3. I don't think I would like this to become a topic in your fic.

Edit:
Capitulating too fast...I put that down to the restrictions of costs and of games as a storytelling medium. I always imagine there's a lot more going on between them on the SR2 that we don't get to see.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 12 novembre 2010 - 03:14 .

[Ieldra]

enayasoul wrote...
Do you think Miranda already knew she was infertile before the suicide mission? 

Almost certainly. That medical report went to her, remember? It's unlike she'd have gotten in between the suicide mission and LotSB.

If not? Considering that they would all die... think she would risk unprotected sex.  Given that she knows Shepard medical record...  and considered.  Why not give in to having some fun with Shepard. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]  She knew it was going to be a one way trip, why would it matter now.

I think in the late 22nd century there will be methods of contraception you don't notice at all, and the standard operating procedure would be to use them all the time unless you want a child. Depending on the kind of pharmaceuticals most likely to be without side effects, that could be primarily by men, primarily by women or both.

Also if the benign neoplasm was a recent thing. maybe she was exposed to something that caused the problem to develop.

There has been speculation it has to do with her implanted eezo nodules.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 12 novembre 2010 - 03:24 .

[jtav]

Agreed with Ieldra. I wouldn't like mentions of her father removing any xenophilic or homosexual/bisexual tendencies because you're running up against real-world unfortunate implications. I wouldn't like it if Shepard/Miranda were presented as some kind of genetic "soulmates" but the idea could be interesting.

[Ryzaki]

I've been wondering something about the whole "babies ever after"...shouldn't Shepard be sterile anyways? He did *die* and I doubt his body was producing sperm. Shep doesn't really count as a human anymores either. So Miranda being sterile is a moot point toShepard and her producing babies.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 novembre 2010 - 03:44 .

[enayasoul]

Ieldra2 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...
Do you think Miranda already knew she was infertile before the suicide mission? 

Almost certainly. That medical report went to her, remember? It's unlike she'd have gotten in between the suicide mission and LotSB.

If not? Considering that they would all die... think she would risk unprotected sex.  Given that she knows Shepard medical record...  and considered.  Why not give in to having some fun with Shepard. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]  She knew it was going to be a one way trip, why would it matter now.

I think in the late 22nd century there will be methods of contraception you don't notice at all, and the standard operating procedure would be to use them all the time unless you want a child. Depending on the kind of pharmaceuticals most likely to be without side effects, that could be primarily by men, primarily by women or both.

Also if the benign neoplasm was a recent thing. maybe she was exposed to something that caused the problem to develop.

There has been speculation it has to do with her implanted eezo nodules.

Yeah, that true....  And makes sense.  I suspected it might be do to the implanted eezo nodules as well but wasn't entirely sure.   I spent nearly all day yesterday reading up on Biotics,  Element Zero, Infertility and other medical conditions... just to get a grasp of it and knowledge about it so I make some sense in to what I am writing about.  Mordin does come into play and wanting to have him sound just as intelligent as Miranda about her condition as possible.

Miranda is a unique case...   

I honestly don't know if it is possible but Mordin has a long list of questions and medical experiments to conduct.  yikes, i hope that part isn't boring for the reader.  I'll only add certain information if it's necessary.  Questions they'd ask each other.  Mordin and Miranda.

So far, I have a gut reaction of no... but we will see how it all turns out after I am done with that part of the story.

It seems from what I read that human females that were exposed to the "dust" and pregnant had complications with the babies? Like cancer or something.   I wish we knew more about that.

Modifié par enayasoul, 12 novembre 2010 - 03:51 .

[enayasoul]

Ryzaki wrote...

I've been wondering something about the whole "babies ever after"...shouldn't Shepard be sterile anyways? He did *die* and I doubt his body was producing sperm. Shep doesn't really count as a human anymores either.

A good question!  I have wondered that as well.

If Shepard is part cybernetic... makes me think back to Saren when he was implanted with cybernetics for the reaper (**** what was his name) to control him more easily.  

I hope Shepard doesn't get controlled by harbringer that way either. 

[Ieldra]

Ryzaki wrote...
I've been wondering something about the whole "babies ever after"...shouldn't Shepard be sterile anyways? He did *die* and I doubt his body was producing sperm. Shep doesn't really count as a human anymores either. So Miranda being sterile is a moot point toShepard and her producing babies.

As Shepard's example shows, life processes can be restarted. That includes fertility. Miranda would have made sure that that part was restored, not because of a personal interest, but because it would've had a huge psychological impact, making Shepard a different person from who he was before. The Lazarus project would have failed.

BTW, restoring fertility really should be child's play compared with restoring a functional brain. That also applies to Miranda.

[Ryzaki]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
I've been wondering something about the whole "babies ever after"...shouldn't Shepard be sterile anyways? He did *die* and I doubt his body was producing sperm. Shep doesn't really count as a human anymores either. So Miranda being sterile is a moot point toShepard and her producing babies.

As Shepard's example shows, life processes can be restarted. That includes fertility. Miranda would have made sure that that part was restored, not because of a personal interest, but because it would've had a huge psychological impact, making Shepard a different person from who he was before. The Lazarus project would have failed.

BTW, restoring fertility really should be child's play compared with restoring a functional brain. That also applies to Miranda.

Ah. But there's always the chance that people played their Sheps as infertile.

But I see your point. Though Sheps whole ressurection was retarded for many reasons including the restoration of his whole brain. <_< Would it have really been so hard to put him in a coma and if needed give him anmesia? I mean I'd take that cliche over the whole back to life nonsense.

Though huge psychological impact? I'm not sure about huge I mean hell Shep shakes off death like its nobodies business. He/She accepts going onto the SM without batting an eye, he/she accepts his/her LI/Bestfriend rage quitting on them with very little emotion. If anything I think Shep's pretty damn numb. If he/she learned that they were sterile I could see a "huh well at least I'm alive." attitude. Hell even the council's "Ah yes Reapers" is greeted with either a "screw all of you I'm out of here." or a "are you serious?" there's no explosion. Just muted growling.

Also: It was Miranda's "brilliant" idea toplace a control chip in Shepard and that sure in hell would've affected his personality. So I doubt she cared about that she just wanted him functional. He doesn't need to fertile to do that. TIM might've been the one to bring it up if anyone did.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 novembre 2010 - 04:03 .

[Elyvern]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Actually, things can be far more subtle at the genetic level. Current knowledge, IIRC, is that markers of physical health are the prime consideration, but beyond that, partners which would increase genetic diversity in the offspring are more likely to be attracted to each other, with the attraction triggered by certain pheromones. It's not limited to the openly physical.

Yes, and I didn't want to talk about how much her father could've fine-tuned her biological reproduction drive because there's no knowing how detailed one could get down when engineering a genetic template to be attracted to particular phenotypes. Let me pick your brain abit. If it isn't limited to the openly phsycal, what else about Shepard (and I'd have to say all permutations of Shepard here) would attract Miranda given that her father has consciously programmed her into going for particular types?

I think he would likely have done something like that. As with the other aspects, it's still a gamble, but it would increase the chance of him getting what he wants. I'm rather indifferent about that aspect, though, since I don't care for xenophilia and it's very unlikey Miranda will become suddenly attracted to women in ME3. I don't think I would like this to become a topic in your fic.

Heh, don't worry. Once again, I'm just carrying a thought to the logical conclusion. I'm not planning for Miranda to do any 180s towards aliens or women in my fic.

[Ieldra]

enayasoul wrote...
It seems from what I read that human females that were exposed to the "dust" and pregnant had complications with the babies? Like cancer or something.   I wish we knew more about that.

You mean eezo? Yes, most died of cancer, some survived to become biotics. With Miranda it's different since her eezo nodules were most likely implanted, but an effect on her fertility would be plausible, even if most biotics, once having survived, seem unaffected. At least nowhere is mentioned anything to the contrary.

[tommyt_1994]

Random question here, does anyone else happen to play as a class that meshes well with Miranda's skill set? My next playthrough is probably going to be an Adept on Veteran, but I won't be taking any +health or shield armor pieces or upgrades for the added challenge. War bombs all around . I enjoy playing as a class that benefits Miranda and vice versa, I like the added synergy.

Modifié par tommyt_1994, 12 novembre 2010 - 08:23 .

[Prudii Aden]

I'd say soldier - she strips the defences, you deal the killing blow.