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[aeetos21]

Just wanted to add a few more miranda captures that i haven't really seen too many of on here - i had fraps take a screenshot every ten seconds (just to see what would pop up) and i got some interesting miranda espressions. first one she's smiling in such a way you can only see he two front teeth - i think she looks like a chipmunk.
second one is during the whole "are you always this ****y or is just me?" convo. she looks pretty cold in that shot.
last one is on FP and i tried putting a name to her expression but its pretty unreadable, i dubbed it miranda's poker face

finally the last picture has no real place on this forum but i think its a pretty cool shot of a vorcha just before its head gets blown clean off - fun fun

[elmjuniper]

never mind. my mistake.

and cool pics.

Modifié par elmjuniper, 28 décembre 2010 - 05:20 .

[hooahguy]

Love those pics. Especially the Vorcha, It looks especially pretty. =P

[Pwnisher]

I can't say that I have see those shots of Miranda before . Nice photography skills!

[hooahguy]

I just realized that the top one makes her look kinda like a rabbit.
O.o

Modifié par hooahguy, 28 décembre 2010 - 06:05 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
And another, even shorter story dealing with Miranda's infertility. Considerably more optimistic however.

And Everything Was Possible

Words: 524
Rating: G
Pairings: None
Summary: The Lazarus Project presents infinite possibilities, particularly for its director.

That's the way I'd prefer things to go - reverse her condition through the technology developed for the Lazarus project. Miranda would be wresting control of another part of her life out of the hands of her father. BTW, her feelings about her infertility are exactly as I'd envision them and still leave all possibilities open.
(And no mention of actual children unless you choose to....)

Modifié par Ieldra2, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:47 .

[Elyvern]

I must say...by ME verse standards...infertility is such a piddly thing to cure. I get fed up with myself sometimes letting it affect me so much.

[Ieldra]

Nice new banner, Elyvern (wasn't that what you wanted me to say....)

[Elyvern]

 I figured if I was going to have a sig, I may as well go the whole nine yards and make a banner to go along with it. Maybe this'll compel me to post more often in these forums.

[snfonseka]

Miranda and Fem Shep romance related dialogs (In Shadow Broker DLC) - Click here

Original post - Click here

[Errol Dnamyx]

Ugh... Do not want.

[aeetos21]

Dude for a second I really couldn't think, at all it was just complete: "WTF?" THEN I realized that these were unused dialogue clips that people restored.

I'm not some jerk who doesn't believe in equal rights but I do believe some characters should have certain sexual preferences based on their personalities. Jack we know approaches sex very casually - maybe not as much as in her past but there it is. That plus the whole broken emotional vibe she has going I could see her being open to a fem/fem relationship.

But Miranda and Tali or even Ashley? I think BW made the right call with those three. Miranda because she's a very strong alpha personality and even though I she works fine along side a strong alpha femshep I couldn't see the two working out in a relationship together.

Modifié par aeetos21, 28 décembre 2010 - 05:44 .

[Ieldra]

I can see that working, aeetos. A femShep and Miranda could be a really great team, with or without an added sexual dimension.



I don't want her retconned, though. I like her as she is and don't want her changed. Had she been bi from the start, it would've been OK as well. Though personally, I'd prefer a stronger friendship path for Miranda and Shepard (male or female btw).

[fongiel24]

So Miranda and femShep couldn't work out in a relationship because they're both strong, alpha-type personalities. Could Miranda and maleShep work out in a relationship, even though maleShep is also a strong, alpha-type personality?

[Errol Dnamyx]

Manshepard is different because of his penis. It enables him to help her with her personality issues. Obviously.

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 28 décembre 2010 - 06:25 .

[aeetos21]

It'd be hard to write: I remember Josh Freedman saying how hard it was to write both Cameran and Sarah Connor in a same scene since they both had such enormous alpha personalities. When he added John to the mix then that show really became hard to write.



But in short, yes. That's what I think.

[Ieldra]

Let me ask you this again, aeetos: you think that things could work between two alpha personalities of different genders, but not between two women?

In that case, I'd like to know why you think that. Especially why, considering the wide range of human sexual behavior and preferences, there couldn't be any exceptions to that "rule".

Modifié par Ieldra2, 28 décembre 2010 - 06:33 .

[aeetos21]

Oh man this is getting slippery, have to be careful I don't slit my throat.

In a friendship or working relationship things will always matter more on the two people involved than gender. But in an intimate sense yes, that's how I feel. I'm sure there are exceptions to my line of thought (and I'm sure people will bring them up) as there are several very happy couples out there of the same gender who each have alpha personalities. But getting back to the m/f f/f or m/m relationships? I feel that the different dynamics between a heterosexual versus a homosexual relationship are more favorable to a hetero couple in terms of two alpha personalities. That's just how I feel inside and I make no apologies for it.

Now... do I THINK logically, with my brain (and I mean the one in my skull), that's reason enough to say no to a Miranda/femshep romance? Of course not and if that were BW's reason I'd call BS - just how you fellow forumites are calling me out on it now - and demand that BW give us a real reason why.

Still the whole competing alpha personalities I feel is different in comparison to hetero versus ****** relationships and in the case of hetero I feel it works out better.

Modifié par aeetos21, 28 décembre 2010 - 06:50 .

[Ieldra]

OK, as long as you don't say there shouldn't be/aren't any exceptions I'm not exactly calling you out on it.



But I can't avoid to point out that feelings aren't exactly a good tool to make judgments, especially about things as emotionally loaded as sexual preferences. The only way to know how things stand would be to make a statistically controlled study.

[clennon8]

I think Miranda/FemShep makes sense, if only from the standpoint that Miranda is essentially a genetically altered clone of a man. I think her father would have tailored her to be bi, actually.

Modifié par clennon8, 28 décembre 2010 - 08:46 .

[aeetos21]

Then statistically (and more importantly objectively) a person should ask themselves is there any differences how two alpha personality typed persons of differing genders act around each other in a professional or friendship dynamic versus two alpha personality typed persons of the same gender who act around each other a professional or friendship dynamic.

[clennon8]

As for the alpha/alpha thing not working in same sex relationships, there might be something to that. I admit it isn't really something I've considered.

Modifié par clennon8, 28 décembre 2010 - 07:05 .

[aeetos21]

I'm sure there are cases where it does work, and works very well. But in the case of Miranda and Shepard?

Miranda is jealous of Shepard whether you are a guy or a girl. But do you think she'd be a bit more jealous of a femshep coming in and showing her what's what (sorry, best phrase I can come up with) or a maleshep? I'm inclined it'd be towards the former and feel that that jealousy would transcend to a relationship of intimacy.

Anyway that's my basic thought pattern with the Shepard/Miranda relationship - feel free to poke holes in it as I'm sure its gaping with subjection.

Modifié par aeetos21, 28 décembre 2010 - 07:11 .

[Ieldra]

aeetos21 wrote...
Then statistically (and more importantly objectively) a person should ask themselves is there any differences how two alpha personality typed persons of differing genders act around each other in a professional or friendship dynamic versus two alpha personality typed persons of the same gender who act around each other a professional or friendship dynamic.

I think that depends to a high degree on the presence or absence of a sexual dimension. Take a gay man and a lesbian woman, compared to a straight man and a straight woman. Of course their dynamics will be different, even if they're not interested in each other. The same between two lesbian women and two straigt ones. If the presence of a sexual dimension makes the main difference, your line of reasoning fails.

Anything more than that comes down to the question of how much women and men are predisposed to certain kinds of behavior, and how much of that is genetics or cultural conditioning. Since we're talking only about the group of alpha personalities, I don't think there are any hypotheses that hold up to close scrutiny, unless supported by a statistically controlled study. If you don't give me a rational line of reasoning instead of just feelings, I must conclude that your claim to objectivity fails and it all comes down to stereotyping.

Miranda is jealous of Shepard whether you are a guy or a girl. But do you think she'd be a bit more jealous of a femshep coming in and showing her what's what (sorry, best phrase I can come up with) or a maleshep?
I'm inclined it'd be towards the former and feel that that jealousy would transcend to a relationship of intimacy.

Miranda is likely to be more jealous of anyone she'd see as a rival in a relationship, depending on sexual orientation. Your argument implicitly assumes that femShep and Miranda would be interested in the same gender.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 28 décembre 2010 - 07:19 .

[aeetos21]

Ieldra2 wrote...

aeetos21 wrote...
Then statistically (and more importantly objectively) a person should ask themselves is there any differences how two alpha personality typed persons of differing genders act around each other in a professional or friendship dynamic versus two alpha personality typed persons of the same gender who act around each other a professional or friendship dynamic.

I think that depends to a high degree on the presence or absence of a sexual dimension. Take a gay man and a lesbian woman, compared to a straight man and a straight woman. Of course their dynamics will be different, even if they're not interested in each other. The same between two lesbian women and two straigt ones. If the presence of a sexual dimension makes the main difference, your line of reasoning fails.

Anything more than that comes down to the question of how much women and men are predisposed to certain kinds of behavior, and how much of that is genetics or cultural conditioning. Since we're talking only about the group of alpha personalities, I don't think there are any hypotheses that hold up to close scrutiny, unless supported by a statistically controlled study. If you don't give me a rational line of reasoning instead of just feelings, I must conclude that your claim to objectivity fails and it all comes down to stereotyping.

Well of course it fails objectively. There's zero statistical data backing it up and yes it comes down to my observations and opinions alone. Do I fall into a stereotype of believing two hetero alpha personalities have a better chance of making it work? Yes, I do. Will I ever say that's a reason why two people shouldn't give it a shot? People are people there will always be exceptions or just as probably I'm the exception, my supositions are flawed, and personality type has zero effect on the differing dynamics between a hetero and ****** relationship.

The only thing I can come up with in my defense based on any sort of fact is that right now most youth are conditioned culturally to feel a larger threat from those of our same gender thus creating a higher feeling of competition. But that's it and does that qualify  as a justifier for the way I feel? Hell no.