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#11076
JeanLuc761

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jtav wrote...

She looks substantially less creepy, but I like the creepy, inhuman beauty.


I guess it just comes down to personal preference :P

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Ryzaki

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Though the FPS hit on the mod splits my FPS in half. :/



From 60FPS to 30 at best.



Alas. My poor baby can't handle it.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Though the FPS hit on the mod splits my FPS in half. :/

From 60FPS to 30 at best.

Alas. My poor baby can't handle it.

Unfortunately, we can blame that almost entirely on Texmod.  The textures themselves don't cause much of a performance impact on my system, but Texmod itself...yeesh.

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JeanLuc761 wrote...

Unfortunately, we can blame that almost entirely on Texmod.  The textures themselves don't cause much of a performance impact on my system, but Texmod itself...yeesh.


I wonder why it causes such a hit?

:/

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Ryzaki wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Unfortunately, we can blame that almost entirely on Texmod.  The textures themselves don't cause much of a performance impact on my system, but Texmod itself...yeesh.


I wonder why it causes such a hit?

:/

It's more or less hacking the game and replacing the textures in a way the engine wasn't necessarily designed to handle.  I wish I could find another way to do the textures, but this is the best option I have.

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I think you did a great job. Perfect and imperfect mixing together nicely.

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JeanLuc761 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Unfortunately, we can blame that almost entirely on Texmod.  The textures themselves don't cause much of a performance impact on my system, but Texmod itself...yeesh.


I wonder why it causes such a hit?

:/

It's more or less hacking the game and replacing the textures in a way the engine wasn't necessarily designed to handle.  I wish I could find another way to do the textures, but this is the best option I have.


Eh it's not your fault I game on a laptop.

Still...gah textmod. Why must you lower my FPS so? :crying:

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Argh...damn writer's block isn't letting me write anything Moments related! Anyways, who wants to see a girls only movie night with all the girls of the Normandy, and with quite a bit of friendship amongst all of them?

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I think that might have been deliberate; Miranda's origins were unwholesome, and she's supposed to look a bit creepy.

I don't think she ever looked creepy, just fake (nobody has skin that smooth.  Nobody)
I posted this image a page before but I really think giving her more realistic and natural skin actually makes her substantially more beautiful (and that's saying a lot).

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ergh not my favorite

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You did a great job on her JeanLuc761 and I'm looking forward to your next texture upgrade project.



I don't seem to be getting lower FPS (longer load times due to not being able to use MassAffinity in Texmod) but the textures aren't as great as I saw from those screen shots



I remember seeing a post about enabling/disabling DoF? Was there anything enabled/disabled on your end?

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Nah. I had pretty basic settings I didn't modify the ini other than some super mods.

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 @JeanLuc : I don't think she has "unnatural" smooth skin, her skin is very detailed and she already has some little imperfections :

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You really did an amazing job with her outfits, thank you so much ! :)

Modifié par Yannkee, 21 janvier 2011 - 09:45 .


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Yannkee wrote...

No I don't use mod. I've just changed some graphic settings. All characters looks natural and their skin tone fit their real skin texture tone. DOF is a great effect but unfortunately it affect the contrast and the tone of some textures.

This is how Miri looks with bright lighting and without DOF :

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trouble is game was designed to take DoF into account and without it the face textures look flat/plasticky... :?

outfits in the textmod look fantastic, JeanLuc.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 21 janvier 2011 - 10:06 .


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cr: punisher357

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Ooo, very nice piece of fanart. Highly super-spy ish.



God, I wish I didn't fail at visual art. But nope, my limited creative skills are all in writing and music.

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JeanLuc761 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ah but the supermodel skin makes *sense* She's supposed to be perfect. Her skin should be flawless . That said your skin does make her hit uncanny valley alot less often so I'll be happily using it.

I've always subscribed to the idea that it's her imperfections that make her perfect (and I often apply the same principle to Tali).  She looks fine with the supersmooth skin...but she also looks fake, and that put me off quite a bit.

She never looked fake to me. I agree, in principle, with giving her skin a little more detail, but IMO the contrast on the texture between the lighter and the darker parts is too high. Her skin should be as flawless as it is possible to be without looking unnatural, and your new skin texture isn't that.
Did you say you used Jack's 2048x2048 textures? Well, Jack's facial features are beautiful, but her skin texture not so much, even if you discount the tatoos.

I also disagree that she looks creepy, apart from a very few scenes where the lighting is just wrong for her.  

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Ieldra2 wrote...

I also disagree that she looks creepy, apart from a very few scenes where the lighting is just wrong for her.  


I think Miranda looking a just a little off or strange sometimes has less to do with her skin texture and more to do with her facial structure.  If you compare her face against her actress inspiration, Miranda's face is more symmetrical than Yvonne's.  Human faces aren't perfectly bilaterally symmetrical.  Miranda's nearly is, and it makes her look different.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I also disagree that she looks creepy, apart from a very few scenes where the lighting is just wrong for her.  


I think Miranda looking a just a little off or strange sometimes has less to do with her skin texture and more to do with her facial structure.  If you compare her face against her actress inspiration, Miranda's face is more symmetrical than Yvonne's.  Human faces aren't perfectly bilaterally symmetrical.  Miranda's nearly is, and it makes her look different.


I think the reason people think her face looks "off" is because they had an original template and when they hired Yvonne they just used a facial capture for her. You can see the differences in the old E3 demo videos.

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I have to throw a vote here and say that JeanLuc's high-res textures are amazing! However, her skin texture really does look blotchy now especially in areas with poor lighting and when you have dynamic shadows and bloom options turned on. While I understand the rationale behind a more realistic complexion, those factors I listed contrive to push the overall presentation into a rather distasteful zone. JeanLuc, any chance that we could have a version of the download with the original skin texture?

Modifié par Elyvern, 21 janvier 2011 - 01:36 .


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I ran across some nice comments about Miranda and thought I'd share. The original context is a comment made about how Miranda's sex appeal weakens her strength.

"One of my favorite things about Miranda...is that her attractiveness doesn't hinge on making her less dangerous.
Her sex appeal is the kind that can be and IS used as a weapon. It  doesn't define her whole character, it's a tool that she uses to make herself more lethal....Basically I hold that sex appeal shouldn't factor into how strong a character is."

"I disagree that Miranda'a sex appeal hurts the strength of her character, because it's part of it; her sex appeal is essentially weaponized, and she even mentions it as one of the things her father made sure was built to spec, so to speak, so she could use it to her advantage.

Not that I think she's a total ho who borks every dude she needs to get information from, she's a good enough talker that her looks just make it easier for her to manipulate people if need be."

And that is just one of the reasons I love her.

Modifié par jtav, 21 janvier 2011 - 02:24 .


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Yannkee wrote...

 @JeanLuc : I don't think she has "unnatural" smooth skin, her skin is very detailed and she already has some little imperfections :a.k.a silverster stalone jaw syndrome


fixed

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You did a great job on her JeanLuc761 and I'm looking forward to your next texture upgrade project.

I don't seem to be getting lower FPS (longer load times due to not being able to use MassAffinity in Texmod) but the textures aren't as great as I saw from those screen shots

I remember seeing a post about enabling/disabling DoF? Was there anything enabled/disabled on your end?

I actually do find it odd that the textures look more detailed on my computer than some of the other screenshots I'm seeing here.  I don't have anything disabled, and I'm forcing anisotropic filtering and anti-aliasing through the Nvidia control panel.

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As for Miranda's skin, I can honestly say I wasn't expecting nearly everyone here to take issue with it. I can certainly re-release the mod with clearer skin, but to be 100% honest, I'm not actually seeing any of the blotchy skin you guys are talking about, even here:



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jtav wrote...

I ran across some nice comments about Miranda and thought I'd share. The original context is a comment made about how Miranda's sex appeal weakens her strength.

"One of my favorite things about Miranda...is that her attractiveness doesn't hinge on making her less dangerous.
Her sex appeal is the kind that can be and IS used as a weapon. It  doesn't define her whole character, it's a tool that she uses to make herself more lethal....Basically I hold that sex appeal shouldn't factor into how strong a character is."

"I disagree that Miranda'a sex appeal hurts the strength of her character, because it's part of it; her sex appeal is essentially weaponized, and she even mentions it as one of the things her father made sure was built to spec, so to speak, so she could use it to her advantage.

Not that I think she's a total ho who borks every dude she needs to get information from, she's a good enough talker that her looks just make it easier for her to manipulate people if need be."

And that is just one of the reasons I love her.

So I take it the first quote is the person's comment and the second quote was your response to it?

Brilliant stuff, jtav. I agree with you completely.

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I didn't respond at all. These are two responses to the idea that her sex appeal weakens her. I just collected them. I do wish she'd actually used her appeal as a weapon.