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[snfonseka]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
I still think it looks cheap, which makes it pretty far from sexy for me. The black is more elegant. I think the armor has them both beat because there's an element of power there now--this woman is both feminine and deadly, a sleek, powerful, and graceful killer.

I do agree, but I don't find the armor fitting for her on board the SR2, except when going through the Omega 4 relay. I'll try out how she'll look, but Miranda sitting at her desk in armor, that's just wrong. JeanLuc's mod gives the fabric of the white outfit a 3D effect that makes it look less like plastic, so she'll stay in that on the SR2 until her LM.

Four days to the AAP2. **taps foot impatiently**

@snfonseka:
These pictures are strange. How did you make them?

I tried some new modifications to my Coalesced.ini file.

Modifié par snfonseka, 04 février 2011 - 09:48 .

[Vertigo_1]

Ieldra2 wrote...

PseudoEthnic wrote...

I don't know if you guys saw this, but I found a mod that has Miranda wearing her black leather outfit during the romance scene on DA:

http://browse.devian...set=24#/d36iujt

Just tested it. Works fine. Very nice. Thanks for the link.

Does anyone else think we should now have a mod section in the OP?

Yes

I just wish I didn't have to use Texmod whenever I want to play ME2...It never saves the previous settings and it won't let me use MassAffinity (Sets ME2 to use one CPU core which loads faster).

Petition to get mod support from Bioware with ME3 anyone?

Modifié par g54, 04 février 2011 - 10:10 .

[jtav]

Something I've been mulling over for fanfic purposes: am I the only one who thinks Miranda has a tremendous sense of responsibility toward those under her command? She'd be colder than Shepard but equally willing to go to bat for them. She's livid after Lazarus and the kidnappings. She'll sacrifice them, but only if necessary, and she'll do everything she can to help them if it doesn't compromise the mission.



I'm wondering if I can get away with retconning her infertility and replacing it with something else.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Something I've been mulling over for fanfic purposes: am I the only one who thinks Miranda has a tremendous sense of responsibility toward those under her command? She'd be colder than Shepard but equally willing to go to bat for them. She's livid after Lazarus and the kidnappings. She'll sacrifice them, but only if necessary, and she'll do everything she can to help them if it doesn't compromise the mission.

No, you're not the only one. She's moved one crew member's relatives away from an endangered colony, so it can be said to be canonical that she has that sense of responsibility. She'll do what she can for them unless it compromises the mission, yes.

I'm wondering if I can get away with retconning her infertility and replacing it with something else.

In fanfic? Go ahead. I'd do the same if it wasn't my goal to make my scenarios canon-compatible. But knowing you, there's a high chance I'll like the new problem about as much as I like the infertility.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 04 février 2011 - 10:27 .

[jtav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I'm wondering if I can get away with retconning her infertility and replacing it with something else.

In fanfic? Go ahead. I'd do the same if it wasn't my goal to make my scenarios canon-compatible. But knowing you, there's a high chance I'll like the new problem about as much as I like the infertility.

You wound me, Ieldra  It's more that I'm pairing her with Liara and I'd prefer that the issue never even come up because I have no intention of the relationship producing children. And I'm getting to the point where I'm going to have to deal with Liara having read the dossier. I haven't come up with anything yet.

[Ieldra]

Note that I'm not quite as extreme in my dislike of the infertility anymore since I've seen the benefits of your preferred scenario.

[jtav]

Eh, I think I'll keep it and figure out a way to emphasize it won't be an issue. Ever. I wish we had simply been given a concrete example of her father's abuse instead of a new problem. A letter where she secretly goes above and beyond for the crew could have also helped make her more sympathetic.



It strikes me that "loyalist" really does define her. Once she's yours, she's yours until you betray her. She defies TIM for Jacob and risks her life for a sister she doesn't know. I suspect that's why she takes betrayal so poorly.

[Ieldra]

Changed the OP. Added mod section:

Miranda mods for ME2 (PC only, sorry)

To use these mods, you will need Texmod.

*Miranda high-res texture mod by JeanLuc (no AAP2 armor included as yet)
*Miranda high-res texture mod (smoother skin) by JeanLuc (no AAP2 armor included as yet)
*Miranda and Tali texture mod collection by mattlolwtf. Includes high-res textures, a replaced picture in the squad selection screen and Miranda wearing her loyalty outfit in the engine room scene.
*Default outfit in black by theandroids

Note that some texture mods may overwrite each other. I have not tested this, but it might be possible to get...
*JeanLuc's high-res texture mod
*Default outfit in black
*Miranda wears her loyalty outfit in the engine room scene
....to work together if you load them in this order. Confirmations welcome.

The texture mods may also cause issues with the Steam version of ME2. Since I do not have Steam, I cannot test that.

If anyone has made or found mods that affect Miranda in positive ways and wants to share them, please post links (and pictures if you have) here.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 05 février 2011 - 09:56 .

[Arijharn]

Call me old fashioned, but I don't really think her having children by 'vat growing' them really solves any underlying issues she may have.



I don't think she'd love them any less, but I don't think it solves the 'problem.'



I think it would be better if she had closure by having children (if she wants them in the first place) the natural way, if only because it's just another example of Miranda showing just how strong willed she is.

[Ieldra]

Arijharn wrote...
Call me old fashioned, but I don't really think her having children by 'vat growing' them really solves any underlying issues she may have.

I don't think she'd love them any less, but I don't think it solves the 'problem.'

I think it would be better if she had closure by having children (if she wants them in the first place) the natural way, if only because it's just another example of Miranda showing just how strong willed she is.

First, I was not talking about "tank-bred" children. Create the ova using artificial gametogenesis, then go on with IVF and implant them. She'd carry them to term herself. But the details don't matter because....

Second, no, that won't solve any problems, but her "problem" is exactly that there aren't any problems and she can't see that. This scenario would indicate that she has finally seen that there is nothing wrong with her and has come to terms with what and who she is. She's made peace with herself. The children are only the outer sign of that. 

The alternative scenario - using an offshoot of the Lazarus project to reverse her infertility - gives her more of a sense of achievement in having overcome her infertility by her own efforts. Then she could have children the normal way. I like that as well.

At the moment, I can't say which one I'd prefer, but I tend more and more to the former. Both would be acceptable outlooks for Miranda. I still don't want there to be any actual children in my epilogues

Modifié par Ieldra2, 05 février 2011 - 11:26 .

[Ieldra]

Here are two screenshots from the "Black Default Outfit" mod:











Note that this mod and JeanLuc's high-res textures will interact in unpredictable ways. Miranda's outfit may be white high-res, black low-res or even white low-res, for some strange reason.

[Arijharn]

Hmm,



I just had a thought though; wouldn't a 'benign neoplasm' be technically correct if it isn't actually affecting Miranda's health, although it could still render her 'unable to conceive.'



Could it be that she's subfertile, as opposed to being infertile? I admit, my understanding of 'benign neoplasm's are pretty minor, although I'm diligently doing my wikipedia 'research' right now.

[Ieldra]

Arijharn wrote...
I just had a thought though; wouldn't a 'benign neoplasm' be technically correct if it isn't actually affecting Miranda's health, although it could still render her 'unable to conceive.'

Could it be that she's subfertile, as opposed to being infertile? I admit, my understanding of 'benign neoplasm's are pretty minor, although I'm diligently doing my wikipedia 'research' right now.

We've been over that some time ago. Benign neoplasms don't destroy anything. They can create mechanical obstructions and pressure, which can be painful and have other adverse effects (ironically, this is called a "mass effect"), and chemical - for instance hormonal - imbalances. Both could result in an inability to conceive. Remove the thing and the problem will be gone. Though if it sits in the ovary it might be inoperable without damaging the ovary. That's about the worst-case scenario I can imagine with my educated layman's knowledge of medicine, and the reason why, if we take the "benign neoplasm" at face value, I can't imagine they won't be able to remove the problem with late 22nd century medical technology.



 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 05 février 2011 - 12:17 .

[drwells123]

Ieldra2 wrote...

The alternative scenario - using an offshoot of the Lazarus project to reverse her infertility - gives her more of a sense of achievement in having overcome her infertility by her own efforts. Then she could have children the normal way. I like that as well.

I was reading jtav's post about replacing Miranda's infertility with a new problem (I presume as a way to characterize her). That's the dark side of the Lazarus project: it rules out a lot of problems, not just death.

The fic Interstitium has her injured by a Praetorian on Horizon (the scene where she's taken back to the ship on a stretcher is heartbreaking). Shepard asks himself: what if she's disfigured or crippled, and how will she deal with that? But, of course, since the Lazarus project can replace half Shepard's body and give him/her a makeover that erases even the horrific effects of decompression, that's clearly not a problem.

On the other hand, there are always interpersonal conflicts (e.g. she warns some guy away from Oriana because she decides he isn't good enough, and of course Oriana finds out and is not pleased).

Maybe ME3 will kill Shepard again, and this time TIM will invent a time machine to go back and undo it. After that the only fic genre left open will be fluff.

[Arijharn]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Arijharn wrote...
I just had a thought though; wouldn't a 'benign neoplasm' be technically correct if it isn't actually affecting Miranda's health, although it could still render her 'unable to conceive.'

Could it be that she's subfertile, as opposed to being infertile? I admit, my understanding of 'benign neoplasm's are pretty minor, although I'm diligently doing my wikipedia 'research' right now.

We've been over that some time ago. Benign neoplasms don't destroy anything. They can create mechanical obstructions and pressure, which can be painful and have other adverse effects (ironically, this is called a "mass effect"), and chemical - for instance hormonal - imbalances. Both could result in an inability to conceive. Remove the thing and the problem will be gone. Though if it sits in the ovary it might be inoperable without damaging the ovary. That's about the worst-case scenario I can imagine with my educated layman's knowledge of medicine, and the reason why, if we take the "benign neoplasm" at face value, I can't imagine they won't be able to remove the problem with late 22nd century medical technology.



 

I suggest you re-read what I typed, I never said anything about it 'destroying' things. Basically it sits there as a sort of 'buffer' and prevents gestation, not that it causes adverse health defects. Basically, it's as you said; it obstructs the development of a fetus, but it isn't actually affecting Miranda herself, therefore it can't be considered malignant.

Or maybe I'm getting slightly legalese in what could constitute malignant or not, because I'm pretty sure you can't actually count any stage of a baby's development to be a part of the mother in the same sense as say; the mother's liver, or spleen, or heart or lungs or whatever.

[SgtPotato]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Here are two screenshots from the "Black Default Outfit" mod:





Note that this mod and JeanLuc's high-res textures will interact in unpredictable ways. Miranda's outfit may be white high-res, black low-res or even white low-res, for some strange reason.

That makes her more dangerous and... sexy too. 

[jtav]

drwells123 wrote...
I was reading jtav's post about replacing Miranda's infertility with a new problem (I presume as a way to characterize her). That's the dark side of the Lazarus project: it rules out a lot of problems, not just death.

The fic Interstitium has her injured by a Praetorian on Horizon (the scene where she's taken back to the ship on a stretcher is heartbreaking). Shepard asks himself: what if she's disfigured or crippled, and how will she deal with that? But, of course, since the Lazarus project can replace half Shepard's body and give him/her a makeover that erases even the horrific effects of decompression, that's clearly not a problem.

On the other hand, there are always interpersonal conflicts (e.g. she warns some guy away from Oriana because she decides he isn't good enough, and of course Oriana finds out and is not pleased).

Maybe ME3 will kill Shepard again, and this time TIM will invent a time machine to go back and undo it. After that the only fic genre left open will be fluff.

I really shouldn't mention I've thought about a time travel fic And it's more that I don't want to even have to mention the possibility of children. Anyway, I doubt Lazarus will be a complete cure-all. It's expensive, even when the price tag inevitably lowers. And it does nothing about death from natural causes. The social change would be immense and create new problems along with benefits. We just need to be creative.

I actually touched on this in a fic that I really need to get back to. Along with the other WIPs.

[Ieldra]

Arijharn wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Arijharn wrote...
I just had a thought though; wouldn't a 'benign neoplasm' be technically correct if it isn't actually affecting Miranda's health, although it could still render her 'unable to conceive.'

Could it be that she's subfertile, as opposed to being infertile? I admit, my understanding of 'benign neoplasm's are pretty minor, although I'm diligently doing my wikipedia 'research' right now.

We've been over that some time ago. Benign neoplasms don't destroy anything. They can create mechanical obstructions and pressure, which can be painful and have other adverse effects (ironically, this is called a "mass effect"), and chemical - for instance hormonal - imbalances. Both could result in an inability to conceive. Remove the thing and the problem will be gone. Though if it sits in the ovary it might be inoperable without damaging the ovary. That's about the worst-case scenario I can imagine with my educated layman's knowledge of medicine, and the reason why, if we take the "benign neoplasm" at face value, I can't imagine they won't be able to remove the problem with late 22nd century medical technology.

I suggest you re-read what I typed, I never said anything about it 'destroying' things. Basically it sits there as a sort of 'buffer' and prevents gestation, not that it causes adverse health defects. Basically, it's as you said; it obstructs the development of a fetus, but it isn't actually affecting Miranda herself, therefore it can't be considered malignant.

I didn't disagree with you, I only wanted to explain. But you're wrong in one thing: a "benign neoplasm" can sit anywhere within the reproductive system, and depending on where it sits, it can and will affect a woman's health. It can put pressure on blood vessels, prevent ovulation, disturb the reproductive cycle through hormonal imbalances etc. etc... All of which can result in infertility. I'm sure a doctor would be able to find a dozen more adverse effects on health such a thing may cause.
Malignancy is a well defined term: a tumor is malignant if it invades and destroys neighbouring tissue (as opposed to only displacing it a bit) and/or metastasizes. But "benign" does only mean "not malignant". It does not imply that there are no adverse effects.

So, yes, a benign neoplasm can affect Miranda permanently under very specific conditions, assuming that it's untreatable. It's that condition "untreatable" that I very much doubt applies in Miranda's case, considering the level of medical technology in the ME universe. If you have something like medigel, you should *definitely* have something to remove a benign tumor. There, btw, lies the true "advantage" of a benign tumor: once it's gone, things are very likely to go back to normal.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 05 février 2011 - 03:22 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
I actually touched on this in a fic that I really need to get back to. Along with the other WIPs.

I like Miranda in that story. I wouldn't mind a continuation.

[jtav]

Is it at all plausible that the reason it's apparently inoperable is because of the placement of eezo nodules? Also, I gather that the tumor is unlikely to turn malignant?



I'm very strongly in favor of Miranda using her father's tech to produce children. It ties LOTSB back into her ongoing problem with her origins. To have the child she desperately wants, she must come to terms with them. That's good drama.

[jtav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...
I actually touched on this in a fic that I really need to get back to. Along with the other WIPs.

I like Miranda in that story. I wouldn't mind a continuation.

You may get your wish. I find her more interesting here than I do in Devil and Persistence.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Is it at all plausible that the reason it's apparently inoperable is because of the placement of eezo nodules? Also, I gather that the tumor is unlikely to turn malignant?

Unlikely, yes. It's not unheard of, though. Though rven if it does turn malignant, it will be in an early stage and most likely treatable, also the following problem still applies:

I just realized I overlooked something, and the inconsistency in the medical report is even worse than I thought: Women have two ovaries, and rendering one of them dysfunctional will do...nothing at all to her fertility. The other one will even take up the egg production. Benign neoplasms in other places in the reproductive system, those that exist only once, are treatable even today. Maybe a doctor could come up with something really exotic but likely that wouldn't fit the term. I think we can say with some confidence that Bioware has screwed up and a benign neoplasm would not turn Miranda permanently and untreatably infertile.

The eezo nodules are unlikely to affect treatability of a benign neoplasm IMO. Of course we don't know the details, but it's much more likely that the eezo nodules are the source of a fertility problem in the first place. That problem wouldn't be a benign neoplasm, though. Again you could likely pull some exotic connection out of the hat if you want, but it would seem contrived.
About the only scenario I can think of that would require going back to artificial gametogenesis is that the eezo nodules have damaged Miranda's eggs and that that doctor misdiagnosed because the eezo nodules interfered with the imaging systems. 

I'm very strongly in favor of Miranda using her father's tech to produce children. It ties LOTSB back into her ongoing problem with her origins. To have the child she desperately wants, she must come to terms with them. That's good drama.

It's definitely a good personal story arc for Miranda, and it wouldn't require any effort on Bioware's part except to write the epilogue, and determine the decisions (probably dialogue choices) that result in this particular epilogue.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 05 février 2011 - 04:06 .

[jtav]

And, as a nice bonus, it doesn't even require the romance. She can be a mirror image of her father: a Truly Single Parent who genuinely loves her children. Maybe she takes over the company too, Yes, I like that ending.

[Lord Zeuss]

If I do say so myself, I think Miri would approve.

[Ryzaki]

That is Pure and Utter WIN.



Alas I don't agree with the message. *huggles Legion*