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Lord Zeuss

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Da Shadow Master wrote...

SIZE......MATTERS!!!:lol:

Oh and have any of you 360 users picked up  Miri's avatar outfit?
I have :P
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I didn't think anything could make a 360 avatar look good. I was wrong. First the Ash version, and now this one.:blink:

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langelog wrote...

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Miranda is interesting because she is clearly set up as a proto-Illusive Woman, if you will. She's sort of half on her way toward being another Machiavellian pseudo-tyrant, but if you care to look closer, you can see that she still possesses a rudimentary moral code (I submit Oriana into state's evidence). Granted, at the beginning of the game, this is by and large suppressed , but as events progress (and probably not without some persuasion on Shep's part) that little kernel of humanity becomes more evident in her character. Compare the way she executed Wilson in cold blood to her reluctance to kill Niket (even though she accepted the necessity of it and was no less committed to the act). Yes, Shepard does have to intervene to prevent her from doing so, but her hesitation is a marked deviation from strict adherence to an ends-justify-the-means philosophy. If she believed in that completely, she wouldn't be so resentful of the way her father treated her, because after all, he was what made her the way she is, and if the ends justify the means then the way he treated her should be a good thing, but she clearly doesn't feel that way.

She has a flawed moral compass, but as she can show at the end of the game, they are not irrevocable flaws. The Illusive Man outright lacks a moral compass of any kind, flawed or otherwise.

In closing, the Miranda from the beginning of the game would have been physically incapable of performing the following action with anywhere near the degree of sincerity that she did.
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That's what does it for me every time. I look at that and think, "How far you've come, Miri."

Miranda Salute? How did you get her to do that? In every conversation with her I usually choose Paragon, but I've never gotten this response, or maybe I have and my memory is failing, care to clarify?


She salutes right before the Suicide Mission.

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Speaking of, have you got that email in Mass Effect 2 that says "YOU'RE 2 SMALL!"?

Yes, and I sincerley hope it was suggesting something else as to what I first thought it meant, Morlan sends that message, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Lord Zeuss wrote...

Da Shadow Master wrote...

SIZE......MATTERS!!!:lol:

Oh and have any of you 360 users picked up  Miri's avatar outfit?
I have :P
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I didn't think anything could make a 360 avatar look good. I was wrong. First the Ash version, and now this one.:blink:


I know ...I just wish it was her alt. outfit though.<_< but oh well I'll take it lol:P

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langelog wrote...

MatsudaTohu wrote...

Speaking of, have you got that email in Mass Effect 2 that says "YOU'RE 2 SMALL!"?

Yes, and I sincerley hope it was suggesting something else as to what I first thought it meant, Morlan sends that message, correct me if I'm wrong.

I read the title at first thinking with my guttered mind, then was like "It can't be that" then I read it.
"I'm leaving you for a Krogan!"
lol.

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MatsudaTohu wrote...

langelog wrote...

MatsudaTohu wrote...

Speaking of, have you got that email in Mass Effect 2 that says "YOU'RE 2 SMALL!"?

Yes, and I sincerley hope it was suggesting something else as to what I first thought it meant, Morlan sends that message, correct me if I'm wrong.

I read the title at first thinking with my guttered mind, then was like "It can't be that" then I read it.
"I'm leaving you for a Krogan!"
lol.


Cerberus should really do better at filtering your mail of such obvious spam.

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Wow, that XBL avatar is awesome!

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Lord Zeuss wrote...

MatsudaTohu wrote...

langelog wrote...

MatsudaTohu wrote...

Speaking of, have you got that email in Mass Effect 2 that says "YOU'RE 2 SMALL!"?

Yes, and I sincerley hope it was suggesting something else as to what I first thought it meant, Morlan sends that message, correct me if I'm wrong.

I read the title at first thinking with my guttered mind, then was like "It can't be that" then I read it.
"I'm leaving you for a Krogan!"
lol.


Cerberus should really do better at filtering your mail of such obvious spam.

Yes, yes they should, but it was a good laugh.

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andysilv87 wrote...

Wow, that XBL avatar is awesome!


Thanks andy:)

Meanwhile......here's another pic


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She looks a little too happy.

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Yeah I know,I really should fix that lol

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Lol.

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Maybe I should make her a bit thinner and taller too.She does look kind of short lol.

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Da Shadow Master wrote...

Maybe I should make her a bit thinner and taller too.She does look kind of short lol.


Make her thinner and taller and she will look like miri and yes I am back! If you want to know why just pm me, don't want to spam the forums.

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I can't stop staring at the picture Ieldra posted on page 46. I can't get over how blue her eyes are. She's an astonishingly beautiful woman. Literally breathtaking.



I'd give anything to know more about her backstory. Here's hoping Bioware expands on it in ME3. Valmy may give me a hard time, but I like my morally ambiguous superspy. And I do like her ambiguity. Here's hoping she keeps it in ME3.

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I've been reading over the reasons to like Miranda and have come up with another one, though I'm not sure if it makes sense. She's an unapologetically sexual creature who enjoys it. And yet, for all the ass shots, her character is not presented as a ****. She's just as capable of forming lasting romantic connections as anyone else. There's no trauma needed to "explain" it. She's simply allowed to enjoy sex, even sex in engine rooms. It's not that long ago that a character like that would have been presented as a villain out to seduce our hero, only to lose him to a mire conventional heroine. And yet, Miranda is allowed the same happy ending as any ME2 LI. I find that refreshing.



And with that, I say good night.

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Da Shadow Master wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

Wow, that XBL avatar is awesome!


Thanks andy:)

Meanwhile......here's another pic


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its about to get funky

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I cant wait for Mass Effect 3

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Lord Zeuss wrote...

langelog wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

Miranda is interesting because she is clearly set up as a proto-Illusive Woman, if you will. She's sort of half on her way toward being another Machiavellian pseudo-tyrant, but if you care to look closer, you can see that she still possesses a rudimentary moral code (I submit Oriana into state's evidence). Granted, at the beginning of the game, this is by and large suppressed , but as events progress (and probably not without some persuasion on Shep's part) that little kernel of humanity becomes more evident in her character. Compare the way she executed Wilson in cold blood to her reluctance to kill Niket (even though she accepted the necessity of it and was no less committed to the act). Yes, Shepard does have to intervene to prevent her from doing so, but her hesitation is a marked deviation from strict adherence to an ends-justify-the-means philosophy. If she believed in that completely, she wouldn't be so resentful of the way her father treated her, because after all, he was what made her the way she is, and if the ends justify the means then the way he treated her should be a good thing, but she clearly doesn't feel that way.

She has a flawed moral compass, but as she can show at the end of the game, they are not irrevocable flaws. The Illusive Man outright lacks a moral compass of any kind, flawed or otherwise.

In closing, the Miranda from the beginning of the game would have been physically incapable of performing the following action with anywhere near the degree of sincerity that she did.
Posted Image

That's what does it for me every time. I look at that and think, "How far you've come, Miri."

Miranda Salute? How did you get her to do that? In every conversation with her I usually choose Paragon, but I've never gotten this response, or maybe I have and my memory is failing, care to clarify?


She salutes right before the Suicide Mission.


Doesn't that only happen if you aren't in a romance with her? Or am I mistaken? I thought this is instead of the meeting at the elevator scene??

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JonDoe297 wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

langelog wrote...

Lord Zeuss wrote...

Miranda is interesting because she is clearly set up as a proto-Illusive Woman, if you will. She's sort of half on her way toward being another Machiavellian pseudo-tyrant, but if you care to look closer, you can see that she still possesses a rudimentary moral code (I submit Oriana into state's evidence). Granted, at the beginning of the game, this is by and large suppressed , but as events progress (and probably not without some persuasion on Shep's part) that little kernel of humanity becomes more evident in her character. Compare the way she executed Wilson in cold blood to her reluctance to kill Niket (even though she accepted the necessity of it and was no less committed to the act). Yes, Shepard does have to intervene to prevent her from doing so, but her hesitation is a marked deviation from strict adherence to an ends-justify-the-means philosophy. If she believed in that completely, she wouldn't be so resentful of the way her father treated her, because after all, he was what made her the way she is, and if the ends justify the means then the way he treated her should be a good thing, but she clearly doesn't feel that way.

She has a flawed moral compass, but as she can show at the end of the game, they are not irrevocable flaws. The Illusive Man outright lacks a moral compass of any kind, flawed or otherwise.

In closing, the Miranda from the beginning of the game would have been physically incapable of performing the following action with anywhere near the degree of sincerity that she did.
Posted Image

That's what does it for me every time. I look at that and think, "How far you've come, Miri."

Miranda Salute? How did you get her to do that? In every conversation with her I usually choose Paragon, but I've never gotten this response, or maybe I have and my memory is failing, care to clarify?


She salutes right before the Suicide Mission.


Doesn't that only happen if you aren't in a romance with her? Or am I mistaken? I thought this is instead of the meeting at the elevator scene??

Yeah,pretty much.=]

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Like my new sig?

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@Jon Doe297 I'm digging the sig, now if I only knew how to make one.

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Uh...well could you have put a more relaxed Miranda?Everything else is great.

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Wrote this on the Mordin thread aswell but anyway...
I tried alot of different squadmate combinations during my games and then I tried the Mordin & Miranda combo, WOW! These two are way too powerful together when fighting organics. I blasted through the suicide mission on insanity like I never had before (I was an adept). I mean it was so easy that I frankly consider having those two together as powergaming.

Miranda, 4 levels of warp (Takes care of barriers & armor).
Mordin, 4 levels of Incinerate (Takes care of armor & health).
Add the fact that my Adept had 4 levels of warp aswell. :)

I mean the Collector Harbinger takes control of never stood a chance, it always took me only a few seconds to take him down.

Personally I find Miranda the best all-around squadmate because she has both Warp & Overload. Great for removing any of the enemies defenses, whether it's health, armor, shields or barriers.
Also her 4th level Cerberus Officer that gives squadmates an additional 15% in weapon damage is just amazing.

Modifié par Radwar, 22 juin 2010 - 04:42 .