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Elyvern

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Cheers, Jebel!

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Jebel Krong

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You're welcome guys(/gals) - took some extensive photoshopping, but it came out well.

Edit: and now I've seen it on a brighter monitor i'll fix it properly tomorrow! :-(

@ieldra: that's an old one, you'd have to go back to the middle of the old thread to find that again.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 01 mars 2011 - 10:52 .


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Jebel Krong

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

jtav wrote...

Am I the only one who hopes the scientist part of her will be re-emphasized in ME3? It kind of disappears adter Lazarus.

Just curious: since when has Miranda become a scientist?


At the last being the lead on a little project called "lazarus" is more than enough qualification, and it is indicated that was far from her first such special project...

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Zulu_DFA

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LuxDragon wrote...

Considering her involvment in bringing Shepard back from the dead, she has to have some measure of intellictual talent.

Many people were involved in bringing Shepard back from the dead, but Wilson was the lead scientist. Miranda was the director, which means manager. 

Also IQ:160 =/= scientist, knowing what an allele is =/= scientist.

All right, I'm again dissappoint and not going to bother you guys ever again.

Modifié par Zulu_DFA, 01 mars 2011 - 08:01 .


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Jebel Krong

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Zulu_DFA wrote...

LuxDragon wrote...

Considering her involvment in bringing Shepard back from the dead, she has to have some measure of intellictual talent.

Many people were involved in bringing Shepard back from the dead, but Wilson was the lead scientist. Miranda was the director, which means manager. 

Also IQ:160 =/= scientist, knowing what an allele is =/= scientist.

All right, I'm again dissappoint and not going to bother you guys ever again.

I know you're a troll 'n' all but even you should know better than to state opinion as fact here - mere 'managers' aren't put in charge of important science projects for one...

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Never posted in here before, but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on the current topic.

Doesn't Miranda's Shadow Broker file haver her cancelling her subscription to some sort of scientific journal?

I'm guessing she had a subscription to it for the Lazerus Project, and she cancelled the subscription after the project was over. If memory serves, it seems like a fairly technical publication - so the fact that she was capable of understanding it seems to indicate to me that she likely has some level of scientific knowledge.

I do doubt, however, that her knowledge is on the same level as that of a PhD - otherwise, why bother with recruiting Mordin?

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and she does say in converstaion that shes good at anything she tries her hand at... so really shes anything you say she is.. :)

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@DWH1982
That's because Mordin MAKES PhDs.

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LuxDragon

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There's one genius, and there's more geniuses. Why NOT recruit Mordin? That's like crippling the mission by one squadmate (Who's awesome BTW)

Zulu_DFA wrote...
All right, I'm again dissappoint and not going to bother you guys ever again.


And yet... no one cares.

Modifié par LuxDragon, 02 mars 2011 - 12:25 .


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GuitarShredUK wrote...
Great chapter drwells - and a great fanfic too, really interesting to be able to have such a detailed view into Shepard's recovery.


Ieldra2 wrote...
I'm sorry to say that Miranda is starting to be awfully out of character
here. There was a hint of it even in the first chapter, but you could
put that down on character interpretation. In this chapter it's gone way
overboard. She is absolutely unrecognizeable now.


MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...
@drwells Your new chapter is great! Miranda and Kate are so IC here that it's hard to match the characterisation. Keep it up!


Wow. It's actually harder to know what to say than if everyone hated it :lol:
I guess I'll just say, a humble thank you to everyone who enjoys the story, and to those who don't, I hope I do a better job next time :)

Modifié par drwells123, 02 mars 2011 - 01:00 .


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Xilizhra

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Yes, the new chapter is indeed wonderful. It's probably the best Miranda story I've ever read.

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That reminds me. I have a ficlet of my own.

Introspection

Summary: Miranda reminisces. Liara has an offer. Originally written for the kink meme, but very much safe for work and a good deal fluffier than my usual.

Modifié par jtav, 02 mars 2011 - 01:41 .


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I think that Miranda doesn't delve too deeply into her scientific ability (that we see) because her skills extend beyond that. She may have been a scientist at one point in her past, but leadership skills and the ability to organize are far more valuable than scientific prowess, and she's got those by the bucket-full.

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drwells123 wrote...

GuitarShredUK wrote...
Great chapter drwells - and a great fanfic too, really interesting to be able to have such a detailed view into Shepard's recovery.


Ieldra2 wrote...
I'm sorry to say that Miranda is starting to be awfully out of character
here. There was a hint of it even in the first chapter, but you could
put that down on character interpretation. In this chapter it's gone way
overboard. She is absolutely unrecognizeable now.


MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...
@drwells Your new chapter is great! Miranda and Kate are so IC here that it's hard to match the characterisation. Keep it up!


Wow. It's actually harder to know what to say than if everyone hated it :lol:
I guess I'll just say, a humble thank you to everyone who enjoys the story, and to those who don't, I hope I do a better job next time :)


I like your story. There's nothing wrong with being original or having a different take on something. Keep up the good work :)

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TheMarshal wrote...

I think that Miranda doesn't delve too deeply into her scientific ability (that we see) because her skills extend beyond that. She may have been a scientist at one point in her past, but leadership skills and the ability to organize are far more valuable than scientific prowess, and she's got those by the bucket-full.


Very true. I've seen big differences in what a technical team can accomplish when it's run by a person with both technical and management skills, versus being run by a person with only management skills.

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drwells123 wrote...

Very true. I've seen big differences in what a technical team can accomplish when it's run by a person with both technical and management skills, versus being run by a person with only management skills.


I've been dealing with the opposite...  a person with technical skills but without management skills in a management position...

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Zulu_DFA wrote...
Many people were involved in bringing Shepard back from the dead, but Wilson was the lead scientist. Miranda was the director, which means manager. 

Also IQ:160 =/= scientist, knowing what an allele is =/= scientist.

All right, I'm again dissappoint and not going to bother you guys ever again.


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Jebel Krong

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TheMarshal wrote...

drwells123 wrote...

Very true. I've seen big differences in what a technical team can accomplish when it's run by a person with both technical and management skills, versus being run by a person with only management skills.


I've been dealing with the opposite...  a person with technical skills but without management skills in a management position...


that pretty much describes (at least) lazarus miranda. technical people are the ones you want in charge, however they do tend to lack those personal/management skills and the ability to kiss-ass. however management + science = cheap + bad.

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There is an absolute dearth of reasonably good MShep/Miranda stories. I have no idea where this one is going, but the first two chapters are quite good:

Not Dead, Not Anymore by n7walker.

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Jebel Krong

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as promised i properly fixed my previous wallpaper, so you shouldn't see any odd watermarks even on bright monitors:
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Ieldra2 wrote...

There is an absolute dearth of reasonably good MShep/Miranda stories. I have no idea where this one is going, but the first two chapters are quite good:

Not Dead, Not Anymore by n7walker.


Thanks for the heads-up, Ieldra. And I agree about the dearth of decent maleshep/Miranda fics. Ironic, considering they are a canon-pairing. 

@Jebel - thanks for revising that wallpaper. 

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Well, fanfic is a predominantly female pursuit, and most people play their own gender. Add in that most writing is bad, and you've got a recipe for little goodfic.

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Jebel Krong wrote...

that pretty much describes (at least) lazarus miranda. technical people are the ones you want in charge, however they do tend to lack those personal/management skills and the ability to kiss-ass. however management + science = cheap + bad.


I don't want to derail this thread too badly, but I disagree that you necessarily want someone with technical skills leading a technical team.  Sure, you want someone who can at the very leas understand what's going on, but in my professional opinion a good manager is someone who ensures that the 'talent' has everything they need to get the project done as efficiently as possible, and stays out of their way otherwise.

I suppose if you're looking at it where Miranda is the lead technical person on the project rather than someone in a management position (which I suppose is closer to how it actually went down), then yes, her technical skills were very important.  The above still stands, though.  You want someone who knows how to delegate work properly and ensure that the rest of her team is on top of things without necessarily getting in their way.  Otherwise you're micromanaging and wind up doing all the work anyway.

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jtav wrote...

Well, fanfic is a predominantly female pursuit, and most people play their own gender. Add in that most writing is bad, and you've got a recipe for little goodfic.


Amen...

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Elyvern

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jtav wrote...

Well, fanfic is a predominantly female pursuit, and most people play their own gender. Add in that most writing is bad, and you've got a recipe for little goodfic.


Oh, I know the rules of the ground. Still, it makes me depressed as I far prefer to read a pairing that pays tribute to the game itself, which is, for me, very initial experience that forms the foundation for my appreciation of Miranda.