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[naledgeborn]

Oddly enough the Sheps that pursued a relationship with Miranda were either single or broke it off with Liara. I won't be getting a catfight, unless..... Can I "finish" a romance sub-plot once ALL missions have been exhausted? I have a loyal to Ash Sentinel and I might play around with that to see what happens.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 27 avril 2011 - 02:06 .

[jtav]

There are three post-LM convos, one of which is romance exclusive. So, you need at least one undone mission in addition to not having had the kiss conversation.

I feel sorry for my Shep. In fic, it would lead to a more or less permanent trio. In game, heartbreak for someone. I don't know who.

[MisterJB]

jtav wrote...

How do you think Miranda will conduct herself in ME3 if Shepard has a prior romance with Ash/Liara?

I think it could depend on Shepard's previous romance. Ashley parted with Shepard on very bad terms back on Horizon, Miranda could have felt that he was "fair game" after that and her cattiness could be directed towards Ashley.
And let's not forget Ashley's new look, Oh, I can think of so many beautiful snarky remarks for Miranda to say.

On Liara's case,it's much more complex. Miranda could be very hurt due to feeling that Shepard broke her trust, she could be forever distrustful of the authenticity of his feelings should he remain with her, we could find out that she purposely hid Liara's involvement on the recovery of Shepard's body.
There's a lot of room for drama with this triangle.

Modifié par MisterJB, 27 avril 2011 - 02:39 .

[jtav]

Do you guys realize how badly this makes me want to write Shepard/Miranda/Liara fic? I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

[Sigyn2011]

naledgeborn wrote...

Oddly enough the Sheps that pursued a relationship with Miranda were either single or broke it off with Liara. I won't be getting a catfight, unless..... Can I "finish" a romance sub-plot once ALL missions have been exhausted? I have a loyal to Ash Sentinel and I might play around with that to see what happens.

It is possible if you have the DLC LOTSB.  Disclaimer: Shepard is a very naughty, naughty person for doing this!!

Naturally, you'll need to do Miranda's loyalty mission as well and have a romance with Liara from ME1.  Talk to Miranda after her loyalty mission and tell her that you like to see her let her hair down.  Do the next conversation where you can compliment her or insult/kiss her.  But do NOT lock in your romance with her yet (the next conversation).  Sometime before you go through the Omega 4 relay, do the LOTSB mission.  It'll enable you to catch up with Liara.  When she asks you if you still want to pursue a relationship, say yes, invite her for drinks, and let the rest of the scene play out.  She mentions having done a tour of the ship but says nothing about Miranda because you haven't yet locked in your relationship with her.  After the DLC is done, lock in your relationship with Miranda.  And then, the game will progress as if you had been only interested in Miranda the whole time.  Like I said, for those people who'd like to keep their genitals in ME3, I wouldn't recommend doing this.  Or those people who respect Miranda shouldn't do this.  But, anyhow, it is possible...

[enayasoul]

MisterJB wrote...

I think it could depend on Shepard's previous romance. Ashley parted with Shepard on very bad terms back on Horizon, Miranda could have felt that he was "fair game" after that and her cattiness could be directed towards Ashley.
And let's not forget Ashley's new look, Oh, I can think of so many beautiful snarky remarks for Miranda to say.

On Liara's case,it's much more complex. Miranda could be very hurt due to feeling that Shepard broke her trust, she could be forever distrustful of the authenticity of his feelings should he remain with her, we could find out that she purposely hid Liara's involvement on the recovery of Shepard's body.
There's a lot of room for drama with this triangle.

Yeah, I'd say Shepard was "fair game"  What beautiful snarky remarks would you have Miranda say to Ash.

[Spartas Husky]

Drama... not so much on that. They are proffesional private sector related personel. Liara, Miranda, and Sheperd short involvement with the specters should already know misinformation or being economical with the truth is in the job description.

Any drama taken out of the Ashley, or Sheperd's recovery operation would just break their persona. yes they are people but professionals nonetheless. Soap Operas only occur on civies, they aren't civies by a long shot.

[Jebel Krong]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...
they haven't said anything about plenty of characters, i wouldn't go getting all worked up over no news... i'm sure miranda will be in ME3 in a big way, not least because her ties to Cerberus make her an obvious character to counter their nefarious doings, which it sounds like you'll be dealing with perhaps a bit too much, given the supposedly more-important plot

It's only this: it doesn't depend only on how important Miranda can be said to be for the Cerberus plotline if, and how, she's back. I'm more worried about real-world factors infering like they didn't want to invest the money for a high profile voice actress like Yvonne Strahovski. I try hard to hope for the best, but it's not so easy to keep up the optimism after they confirmed every possible maleShep LI from both games - except for Miranda...

just coming back to this (apologies - i'm on holiday and been away for more than a few days) - chris priestly explicitly wrote last year that they got VAs on the premise that they'd be able to get them back again, if necessary, so i'm not worried re that aspect. also, bearing in mind they've just finished S4 of chuck, just in time for recording sessions? not a coincidence.

[Jebel Krong]

what i'm interested in is how they're going to handle all the ;possible dead people - that may explain why Liara seems to be a necessary squaddie (despite LoSB making that seemingly totally illogical as has been pointed out) - but having characters "fill-in" has got to be a logistics nightmare.

btw regarding polls, i don't think anyone should kid themselves that the girl with chicken feet and a mask is somehow the most popular character amongst the casual crowd, though i'd love to see BW release the stats to prove this.

[REMspace]

Hi to everyone! I'm new here and I made a new video dedicated to Miranda for my Youtube channel. I'd like to share with you all.
This is my video:

Mass Effect 2 Music Video - Tribute to Miranda

Hope you like!

[TomY90]

enayasoul wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

I think it could depend on Shepard's previous romance. Ashley parted with Shepard on very bad terms back on Horizon, Miranda could have felt that he was "fair game" after that and her cattiness could be directed towards Ashley.
And let's not forget Ashley's new look, Oh, I can think of so many beautiful snarky remarks for Miranda to say.

On Liara's case,it's much more complex. Miranda could be very hurt due to feeling that Shepard broke her trust, she could be forever distrustful of the authenticity of his feelings should he remain with her, we could find out that she purposely hid Liara's involvement on the recovery of Shepard's body.
There's a lot of room for drama with this triangle.

Yeah, I'd say Shepard was "fair game"  What beautiful snarky remarks would you have Miranda say to Ash.

I have an image of ashley being miranda's jack in ME3 especially if you romanced with them both considering its plausible that ashley would have changed her appearance to get shepherd appearance and to try to stop him from being with someone else (you can create good dialogue from the design change)

I can even imagine quite a few arguments between the two because they are very similar personalities granted ashley is much more hot headed but them both are really confident in their ability, they do not take rubbish from anyone, they know how to handle themselves and they know how to get what they want.

So i say expect fireworks in ME3 between them I can even expect ashley do something you wont expect she could even try to remove miranda from the equation (this is if the rumours are true of ashley being a spectre) especially if she thinks miranda is a spy for cerberus (which i very much doubt unless cerberus black mailed her with her sister or something but I do not think she would stand for that) 

[naledgeborn]

What are the odds that Miranda will be on the Normandy waiting for Shepard right after ME3's prologue? What are the chances that she'll be at the trial? Sort of how your LI from ME1 ran to the sleeper pods to get Shepard during the Collector attack. I believe this is something we haven't taken into consideration yet.

[MsSihaKatieKrios]

Jebel Krong wrote...
btw regarding polls, i don't think anyone should kid themselves that the girl with chicken feet and a mask is somehow the most popular character amongst the casual crowd, though i'd love to see BW release the stats to prove this.

I just call her the chicken in a bucket. What a way to go from being my little sister in ME1. Seriously, I absolutely hated Tali in ME2 cause she was just nothing more than absloute, uncut and totally nauseating fanboy service. They totally ruined her character in ME2, and the irritating, pesky group-

Okay, back to point. Miranda will definitely be in ME3, the only question is if she's going to be a fulltimer. However, I don't see her being a part-timer mainly because she has nowhere to go in ME3 (caught between Shepard and Cerberus, and Cerberus probably wants her head as much as they want Shepard's), and the Illusive Woman situation probably isn't going to happen. Bioware has to consider all those kids who wants nothing more than to see Cerberus be gone for good no matter what the cost.

Bioware is still a business at heart, and of course they don't want those kids to scream and wail to their mothers that BW didn't shut down Cerberus and not buy ME3 because of said reason. Besides, I like her to use her own extensive network of contacts and resources a lot more than using Cerberus'. The former really cements her status as a self-made, powerful woman who still has a soft spot.

P.S. Yeah i'm totally PMS-ing. Give us some Miri news already, you sadistic b**tards at Bioware...

[Axestone]

Give us some Miri news already, you sadistic b**tards at Bioware...

I subscribe. To release ME3 a long time, but no news scares ...

Modifié par Axestone, 27 avril 2011 - 12:52 .

[jtav]

Some of us quite like Tali and the Taalimance. Given the choice between Illusive Woman and full-time squaddie, I'll choose TIW every time. Assuming TIM must go, I suspect there will be an option to dismantle Cerberus, possibly depending on Miranda and Jacob's status. But may I remind you there were a lot of Liara fans who wanted the SB network dismantled before LOTSB?

[MsSihaKatieKrios]

@jtav
That's true, but they were Liara fans. These Cerberus dismantlers ain't Miri lovers. In fact, quite the contrary most of the time. And I've already had it with all their moaning about how nothing good can come out of Cerberus.

Heck, even people like the ****s managed to give us jet planes to get from continent to continent real quick.

[Errol Dnamyx]

Is Miranda capable of handling an organization like Cerberus? Probably.

The more important question is, if she wants to be connected with a group, that has one of the most horrible reputations in the ME universe. I say no.
If she somehow ends up in a leadership position, I hope it won't be in Cerberus.
I would prefer her to stay on the Normandy full time as XO and science officer.
Also, my Shepard needs her squad boni.

[Prudii Aden]

Please remember that this is a love thread - if you're going to denigrate another character, please refrain from doing so here.

[Vertigo_1]

Considering there has been no info on Miranda...


What do you want to know about Mass Effect 3?

I'll just leave this here...

EDIT: HAH people are already asking if Miranda will return as squad member!

Modifié par g54, 27 avril 2011 - 05:22 .

[Ieldra]

g54 wrote...
Considering there has been no info on Miranda...

What do you want to know about Mass Effect 3?

I'll just leave this here...

EDIT: HAH people are already asking if Miranda will return as squad member!

Ha. That's what we want to know as well.... Hopefully they'll release something soon. Next I'll fly to Edmonton and break into Bioware's secret lab where they develop their plans for world domination....

@jtav:
I agree with you. I want Miranda to have a significant part in the plot, preferably the "Illusive Woman" scenario, even if that comes at the expense of time on the team. As long as she also has significant time on the team as well, I'll be content. The more permanent, the better of course.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 27 avril 2011 - 05:38 .

[Vertigo_1]

I signed up just to ask if my favorite woman in the galaxy was returning.

Also a new magazine article is out...read more here

"The article also have the picture of the refurbished SR2's interior. The caption says that parts of the Cerberus crew will actually leave the ship, and that it will feel quite empty early in the game."

"The caption states that every single squaddie who survived ME2 will be back. It does not say if they're going to be playable or even permanent squaddies (aside from the Fantastic 4 that we already know of)."

Credit to Arcian for letting us know about this.

Modifié par g54, 27 avril 2011 - 05:53 .

[jtav]

Hmm. Major plot twist? I still think Shepard is part-Reaper due to Lazarus. Miranda has some explaining to do...

[aeetos21]

Here's a thought. I don't think it'll be too difficult to have multiple endings for each character. I mean it'll simply be a choice between two cutscenes (three at most) with someone narrating how they all ended up. Think DAO and DA2.

In Miranda's case I was thinking there's a real chance she could become the new Illusive Woman or something else (if she survives ME3). I think that will be the same for many characters, which means how will BW implement that? Well in the case of Miranda I am starting to come around to the idea that Oriana will be involved somehow - maybe even her father - since she is the "easiest means of procuring her loyalty" to quote TIM. So we now have to ask ourselves what would be the long term benefit of her becoming the new head of Cerberus?

This one is open to interpretation but I like to think that due to Shepard's influence Cerberus will continue to serve humanity but no where near as radically and mercilessly as it had under TIM - also we have the added benefit of giving TIM one between the eyes. Still others feel that Cerberus does just fine under TIM so I imagine BW will have to come up with an outcome for that. The easiest way I think is at a great cost to another alien race or perhaps killing Oriana or Miranda in the process, another likely outcome since if TIM promised her father Oriana in exchange for using her as bait for Miranda - who of course would go ballistic and would want TIM's blood regardless of what Shepard thought.

[Spartas Husky]

I just hope Miranda gets a bit of redesign, so she drops of the Silverster Stalone Syndrome.

[enayasoul]

naledgeborn wrote...

What are the odds that Miranda will be on the Normandy waiting for Shepard right after ME3's prologue? What are the chances that she'll be at the trial? Sort of how your LI from ME1 ran to the sleeper pods to get Shepard during the Collector attack. I believe this is something we haven't taken into consideration yet.

These are very good questions... I am not sure because of her former ties with Cerberus.  I hope the Alliance doesn't arrest her! yikes.  Considering they did nothing to her when she was with Shepard on the Citadel maybe she will or won't be there for Shepard's trial.   It would be nice to see her supporting Shepard.

Maybe Miranda gives the Alliance intel on the Illusive man's location, in exchange for her freedom? Maybe?  Thus why Shepard and even Miranda are being hunted by TIM.    I wouldn't put it past TIM to use Oriana against them.  (Shep & Miranda)  Just speculation on my part.