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[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
No, absolutely not. They're grown women and Shep isn't worth it.

I agree about the fight but as for Shepard - Isn't this a role-playing game? I'll definitely play my Shepard as one who is worth Miranda's regard, even though I have to overlook one or two moments of ****** for it.

[AresXX7]

As for a fight, I don't see that happening.

I wouldn't be surprised if it were reminiscent of the confrontation you got in ME1 (if you initiated a romance w/both Ash & Liara). Only this time, you lose both women's affections, rather than retaining one's (Liara) .

Just a thought.

Modifié par AriesXX7, 29 avril 2011 - 11:32 .

[jtav]

Ieldra, nobody is worth lowering yourself to the level of an actual catfight.Dignity before boyfriends. That said, I'm trying to think of a version of events where Miranda and Liara are both active romances that don't turn Miranda into a coward who won't tell Shepard what's going on with his girlfriend or taking advantage of someone who is emotionally distraught or a party to infidelity.

[Spartas Husky]

guess I opended a can of worms...nvm then.

[TomY90]

I think all that is going to happen between your ME1 LI and ME2 LI is at most an argument but most likely just a few remarks when their in the same squad but apart from that nothing major

[MisterJB]

The Illusive Man could have ordered Miranda to keep the truth from Shepard, let him think that Cerberus is the only one he should be grateful to.
Of course, that will only get you so far. Eventually, the orders become convenient excuses and Miranda hides Liara's involvement out of fear which makes her selfish. I don't think there's a way around that.

I have a Shepard with this triangle. I wonder if it's too much to hope for Bioware to put some effort into it instead of simply:
"Who'll you pick?
a)Miranda
b)Liara
c)I want both.(looses both)"

Modifié par MisterJB, 29 avril 2011 - 01:51 .

[TomY90]

MisterJB wrote...

The Illusive Man could have ordered Miranda to keep the truth from Shepard, let him think that Cerberus is the only one he should be grateful to.
Of course, that will only get you so far. Eventually, the orders becomes convenient excuses and Miranda hides Liara's involvement out of fear and selfishness

I have a Shepard with this triangle. I wonder if it's too much to hope for that Bioware will put some effort into it instead of simply:
"Who'll you pick?
a)Miranda
b)Liara
c)I want both."

i think you will end with either option A or option B but i am certain there will be a build up to like similar to ME1 situation with ashley/Kaidan and Liara.

[MisterJB]

TomY90 wrote...

i think you will end with either option A or option B but i am certain there will be a build up to like similar to ME1 situation with ashley/Kaidan and Liara.

But Bioware said that cheating will have dire consequences. If you simply get to choose, that's not very dire.
What I'm really hoping for are different epilogues. Players who cheated migth still end the game with Miranda but she'll be forever distrustful of the authenticity of Shepard's feelings or something similar. Who knows, maybe she'll only approach the sterility issue with a faithful Shepard.

Modifié par MisterJB, 29 avril 2011 - 02:01 .

[naledgeborn]

MisterJB wrote...

TomY90 wrote...

i think you will end with either option A or option B but i am certain there will be a build up to like similar to ME1 situation with ashley/Kaidan and Liara.

But Bioware said that cheating will have dire consequences. If you simply get to choose, that's not very dire.
What I'm really hoping for are different epilogues. Players who cheated migth still end the game with Miranda but she'll be forever distrustful of the authenticity of Shepard's feelings or something similar. Who knows, maybe she'll only approach the sterility issue with a faithful Shepard.

And that is why I'm glad I offically broke it off with Liara during LotSB in my canon. Besides I get the feeling that after Redemption she starts having a thing for Feron. Shepard moved on, and so did she. Everybody wins.

[Rawke]

I knew it would pay off to stay away from LI's in ME1 for my main-playthrough...so my Shep doesn't have any love triangle problems.

Still, I don't see how romancing Miranda even if you romanced Ash before (it's a different story with Liara) is cheating since she makes it pretty clear on Horizon that she doesn't trust Shepard anyway. Call me old-fashioned, but I always though trust was an essential part of love. If she can't trust Shepard to make the right decisions given his options then I wouldn't see a point in continuing a relationship. Yes, the Horizon-dialogue was badly written, but for the sake of continuity I'd say the relationship was over. So IMO Sheps' moral integrity is still intact.

Modifié par Rawke, 29 avril 2011 - 02:17 .

[jtav]

Ash is different. The reason Liara's gives me a headache is that she's distant because she's scared Shepard will hate her/has changed. Shepard can speak disapprovingly about how she's changed. Miranda could clarify things. She chooses not to. And then she begins a relationship with Shepard.

[Arijharn]

Perhaps Miranda just didn't know?

I mean, you're assuming that she knew that Liara was against the SB, but Miranda isn't there holding Liara's hand the entire time so maybe it's possible that Liara's depth of anger towards the SB was, at the time, not known. Alternatively, and I haven't read the comic so I don't know, Miranda just plain doesn't care beyond paying Liara for her services in regards to Shephard's retreival, and that's it (which is why she doesn't help Liara then and there to rescue Feron?)

[Spartas Husky]

AGain I was saying it because of what they believe in. IN the event they both end up in the same ship in ME3. I was implying... still should have specified. That I would have hoped they both go at each others throats... like Tali and Legion confrontation... Who is right who is wrong etc. No over damn Shepperd... I mean makes no sense, more so if is a fem shep.

Either way I am saying this because I enjoyed the "confrontation" between squadies over their points of views.

[jtav]

Yes, that would be an interesting confrontation. Fire and ice, even without their different loyalties.

Arijharn, Miranda tells Liara to do whatever she wants when the latter asks if Cerberus is going to rescue Feron. And Liara is pretty open about wanting the SB dead, just not the why. That said, the best solution to my little drama my just be to create a FemShep for Liara and have them in separate realities.

[Spartas Husky]

jtav wrote...

Yes, that would be an interesting confrontation. Fire and ice, even without their different loyalties.
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Exactly. Unfortunately Ash aint a biotic so there is no threat of "tearing" a bulkhead. But I mean still would be an awesome fight.

"you spineless  grunt have no idea where danger lies even if its staring you in the face"

"you scumbags butcher anyone who gets in the way"

bla bla bla. Grenade go off. Warp flies off. Would be nice to see.

I mean Iw as half expecting to be able to walk away from the XO office in ME2 and be at least able toe vacuate the 3th flooor so Miri and Badly can have a go at it without intrusion. Would have made for a hell of a leasure time for the rest of the crew watching the show from the CIC.

[Sigyn2011]

That's an assumption that the conflict will even take place on the Normandy. Since ME3 is supposed to be much more of an epic game, I say let 'em have it out elsewhere. Whether it be with spit, nails, biotics, bullets, whatever!

[Dune01]

My canon was with Ash in ME1 but I changed to Miri in ME2...It would be awesome,if there is some epic fight between the two.

[Ieldra]

MisterJB wrote...

TomY90 wrote...

i think you will end with either option A or option B but i am certain there will be a build up to like similar to ME1 situation with ashley/Kaidan and Liara.

But Bioware said that cheating will have dire consequences. If you simply get to choose, that's not very dire.
What I'm really hoping for are different epilogues. Players who cheated migth still end the game with Miranda but she'll be forever distrustful of the authenticity of Shepard's feelings or something similar. Who knows, maybe she'll only approach the sterility issue with a faithful Shepard.

How many times must I repeat it.

IT. IS. NOT. CHEATING. THRICE DAMN IT!

Consequently, I do not want any kind of permanent consequences except that one of them may not be in my team. Also there's this: in ME1 my primary Shepard only talked to Ashley twice after the Citadel and still got the romance treatment on Horizon. I would hate to be treated unfairly just because I talked with Ashley and did not go the length of leaving her on Virmire.....

[TomY90]

MisterJB wrote...

TomY90 wrote...

i think you will end with either option A or option B but i am certain there will be a build up to like similar to ME1 situation with ashley/Kaidan and Liara.

But Bioware said that cheating will have dire consequences. If you simply get to choose, that's not very dire.
What I'm really hoping for are different epilogues. Players who cheated migth still end the game with Miranda but she'll be forever distrustful of the authenticity of Shepard's feelings or something similar. Who knows, maybe she'll only approach the sterility issue with a faithful Shepard.

but bioware has said all decisions do not have negative consequences just different effects (they basically mean you will not be punished for picking a decision over another you will just get a different outcome)

[Vertigo_1]

Ieldra2 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

TomY90 wrote...

i think you will end with either option A or option B but i am certain there will be a build up to like similar to ME1 situation with ashley/Kaidan and Liara.

But Bioware said that cheating will have dire consequences. If you simply get to choose, that's not very dire.
What I'm really hoping for are different epilogues. Players who cheated migth still end the game with Miranda but she'll be forever distrustful of the authenticity of Shepard's feelings or something similar. Who knows, maybe she'll only approach the sterility issue with a faithful Shepard.

How many times must I repeat it.

IT. IS. NOT. CHEATING. THRICE DAMN IT!

Tell that to Casey Hudson
"CaseyH-ME2: To Guest-552 One thing I'm really excited to see is the achievement data that will show how faithful players are to their ME1 love interest. And the best part is, even though I expect most (almost all?) players will cheat on their ME1 love interest, that decision too will come back to haunt them in the next game!"
HERE

(You'll have to search for 'cheat' ...its a big article)

Modifié par g54, 29 avril 2011 - 05:31 .

[Vertigo_1]

Well in the Q&A they picked the question "Will Miranda Lawson return in ME3" (shows how popular Miranda is) aaaand the answer was basically what we've heard so far..."that they will return in some capacity" (he answered it as if someone had asked "will anyone from ME2 return question")

Modifié par g54, 29 avril 2011 - 06:01 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Ieldra, nobody is worth lowering yourself to the level of an actual catfight.Dignity before boyfriends.

OK. I understood your comment in a more general sense. You're 100% correct.

[MisterJB]

g54 wrote...

"CaseyH-ME2: To Guest-552 One thing I'm really excited to see is the achievement data that will show how faithful players are to their ME1 love interest.

No one ever talks about being faithful to the ME2 LI. It's feels like the ME1 LIs are the main LIs and the others exist just to create conflict.
Depressing.

Modifié par MisterJB, 29 avril 2011 - 06:16 .

[Ieldra]

g54 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

TomY90 wrote...

i think you will end with either option A or option B but i am certain there will be a build up to like similar to ME1 situation with ashley/Kaidan and Liara.

But Bioware said that cheating will have dire consequences. If you simply get to choose, that's not very dire.
What I'm really hoping for are different epilogues. Players who cheated migth still end the game with Miranda but she'll be forever distrustful of the authenticity of Shepard's feelings or something similar. Who knows, maybe she'll only approach the sterility issue with a faithful Shepard.

How many times must I repeat it.

IT. IS. NOT. CHEATING. THRICE DAMN IT!

Tell that to Casey Hudson
"CaseyH-ME2: To Guest-552 One thing I'm really excited to see is the achievement data that will show how faithful players are to their ME1 love interest. And the best part is, even though I expect most (almost all?) players will cheat on their ME1 love interest, that decision too will come back to haunt them in the next game!"
HERE

Yeah, yeah. Think of how you were treated by Ashley on Horizon. Cheating? Pah. I can only hope Casey Hudson didn't have too much influence on the writing (if he had, we won't see a lot of Miranda and far too much of Jack, damn it). Anyway, my romance flag isn't checked so it may turn out ok, but the encounter with Ashley sure sounded like she thought there was something between them. Maybe it was a glitch.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 avril 2011 - 06:41 .

[Jebel Krong]

it's not cheating if you broke up with one before romancing another.