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I like how I've 'written' my main Shepard in regard to romancing options.

ME1: "I won't deny a level of interest toward you, but we've got a mission to save the galaxy. It can wait."
ME2: "Aw hell, two years bein' dead, come back to find this mess, screw it, I need someone. It can't wait."

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Yeah, yeah. Think of how you were treated by Ashley on Horizon. Cheating? Pah. I can only hope Casey Hudson didn't have too much influence on the writing (if he had, we won't see a lot of Miranda and far too much of Jack, damn it). Anyway, my romance flag isn't checked so it may turn out ok, but the encounter with Ashley sure sounded like she thought there was something between them. Maybe it was a glitch.


You heard about what they are doing to Jack?
"she grows her hair out a little and puts on a T-Shirt" Credit to "N30795"

Plus it looks like we will be going to the Asari Homeworld Thessia.
Basically from the French OXM article on ME3 that Phaedon posted from his twitter (this is not a direct link)

Modifié par g54, 29 avril 2011 - 08:28 .


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Jack lets her hair grow?.... well then she might still have hope after all. We'll see.

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naledgeborn wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

TomY90 wrote...

i think you will end with either option A or option B but i am certain there will be a build up to like similar to ME1 situation with ashley/Kaidan and Liara.

But Bioware said that cheating will have dire consequences. If you simply get to choose, that's not very dire.
What I'm really hoping for are different epilogues. Players who cheated migth still end the game with Miranda but she'll be forever distrustful of the authenticity of Shepard's feelings or something similar. Who knows, maybe she'll only approach the sterility issue with a faithful Shepard.


And that is why I'm glad I offically broke it off with Liara during LotSB in my canon. Besides I get the feeling that after Redemption she starts having a thing for Feron. Shepard moved on, and so did she. Everybody wins.


My initial reaction was that Ashley dumped Shepard or at least felt like it. Like hell, she couldn't trust him with fighting against the real threat.  Yeah Cerberus is an enemy but not the most dangerous one, right now. 

Horizon was just messy.  I can see Ashley's reason why and Shepard's trying to explain with what dialogue we were given.

Then her email.

My maleshep, moved on basically.  He was hurt by Ash not trusting him or believing in him.   You are given three choices when you talk to Joker about seeing Ash again.

I do have another maleshep that was loyal to Ash but it was damn near hard to resist an LI, especially Miranda. :D

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There has to be an option. I mean, can you imagine how loudly those ped-um, PEOPLE who romanced Liara in ME1 and then Tali in ME2 will cry mommy? There are tons of them. In fact, most of the talimancers cheated on Liara just to be with the buckethead.

And we all know how loudly and frequently those people can cry mommy...

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Would you stop knocking Tali and Liara. I'm quite fond of both. And I count several of their fans as friends.

New discussion: What do you think her first meeting with TIM was like?

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jtav wrote...

Would you stop knocking Tali and Liara. I'm quite fond of both. And I count several of their fans as friends.

New discussion: What do you think her first meeting with TIM was like?



To be honest I cannot imagine their first meeting. She was desperate and brave enought o get away from her father. Which didn't leave her alot of leverage. But TIM understood her potential.

Honestly not sure, as I mentioned. Miri is collected, annalitical woman, imagining her without the advantage of knowing who she is dealing with or on the run is hard to do.

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MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

There has to be an option. I mean, can you imagine how loudly those ped-um, PEOPLE who romanced Liara in ME1 and then Tali in ME2 will cry mommy? There are tons of them. In fact, most of the talimancers cheated on Liara just to be with the buckethead.

And we all know how loudly and frequently those people can cry mommy...


its their choice some people feel why did we romanced with miranda when we can have ash, liara, jack or tali (which i know i understand why we do) but its just their taste and I am looking forward to see how my Ex responds to me moving on.

Modifié par TomY90, 30 avril 2011 - 01:29 .


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jtav wrote...

Would you stop knocking Tali and Liara. I'm quite fond of both. And I count several of their fans as friends.

New discussion: What do you think her first meeting with TIM was like?


its one of those things you cannot truly know because she was alot more innocent back then and someone completely different to what she was like at the start of ME2.

If i was to imagine it would be if you have an Ultra Paragon Shepherd imagine he or she when younger in that situation trying to protect your sister who cares about very much.

that is what miranda was most probably like at the start of meeting TIM but i can imagine TIM was the calculating one knowing that someone with her capabilities would be a huge asset for cerberus or even a basis to create more perfect women.

and as everyone probably knows that job changed her into basically a TIW to such an extent she acted more like a machine than a human being.

but of course we know during ME2 she changes for the better (if your a paragon with her and romance with her)

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MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

There has to be an option. I mean, can you imagine how loudly those ped-um, PEOPLE who romanced Liara in ME1 and then Tali in ME2 will cry mommy? There are tons of them. In fact, most of the talimancers cheated on Liara just to be with the buckethead.

And we all know how loudly and frequently those people can cry mommy...


Liara is a century old. Tali is an adult as well. Calling someone a pedophile for liking their romances is like accusing someone of beastiality for liking Thane's, or accusing sexual harassment in the workplace for liking Kaidan, Ashley, Miranda, or Jacob.

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Saibh wrote...
or accusing sexual harassment in the workplace for liking Miranda.

Technically, the Normandy SR-2 is a civilian ship and Cerberus is a terrorist organization.Posted Image

Modifié par MisterJB, 30 avril 2011 - 01:16 .


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Saibh wrote...

MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

There has to be an option. I mean, can you imagine how loudly those ped-um, PEOPLE who romanced Liara in ME1 and then Tali in ME2 will cry mommy? There are tons of them. In fact, most of the talimancers cheated on Liara just to be with the buckethead.

And we all know how loudly and frequently those people can cry mommy...


Liara is a century old. Tali is an adult as well. Calling someone a pedophile for liking their romances is like accusing someone of beastiality for liking Thane's, or accusing sexual harassment in the workplace for liking Kaidan, Ashley, Miranda, or Jacob.

QFT

What do you think her first meeting with TIM was like?:

hmmm, probably awkward. She was on the run from he rfather when Cerberus recruited her so she was probably feeling a tad vunerable and untrustworthy. But Miranda obviously impressed. 

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Does anyone here really think that TIM tried/ is still trying to hit on Miranda? Because that seems to be the general consensus for quite a few people.

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MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

Does anyone here really think that TIM tried/ is still trying to hit on Miranda? Because that seems to be the general consensus for quite a few people.


I actually do not think so from what we saw of them two he did not try anything if anything from what we saw he was either angry with her (aka jacob loyalty mission/suicide mission) or dishing out the orders to her (lazarus project and opener) I think it was more a work relationship at most where they call upon eachother for help

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MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

Does anyone here really think that TIM tried/ is still trying to hit on Miranda? Because that seems to be the general consensus for quite a few people.


I hope not o.O. If Miranda didn't have the skills she had, I could see it since she's basically the pinnacle of human perfection (thanks to SCIENCE), but she's more useful as an assistant/die-hard advocate. I can't see Illusive Man screwing up a great working relationship with the chaos of romance and/or sex.

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MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

There has to be an option. I mean, can you imagine how loudly those ped-um, PEOPLE who romanced Liara in ME1 and then Tali in ME2 will cry mommy? There are tons of them. In fact, most of the talimancers cheated on Liara just to be with the buckethead.

And we all know how loudly and frequently those people can cry mommy...

I would appreciate it if you didn't refer to "Talimancers" as pedophiles. I'm sure if a "Liaramancer" was lurking in this thread, (s)he would be just as offended.

Yes, I romanced Tali in ME2.

I know, I know, you're probably shocked that a "Talimancer" can be in the realms of Miranda's thread. Every "Talimancer" hates her, right?

But I digress, I'm here to politely ask you to seize and desist of this childish name calling. I can't speak for everyone in the Tali thread, but I think most of you here can agree with me that it doesn't make your group/thread seem tough or whatever, it makes you look stupid. No offense.

So, will you please stop?

Thanks. :)

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I doubt Miranda was all that innocent by the time she met TIM. He doesn't seem to communicate with rank and file. She would have been an experienced operative by the time they met. I can still see her being awed by him, maybe even having a bit of a (strenuously denied) crush. He would have done his best to impress upon her that he has a grand vision for humanity and that she's a critical part of that.

I don't think he ever hit on her. She's far more valuable as an operative. I don't think he'd be above using sex to control her, and he's definitely her type, but that's not the best way to control her.

Modifié par jtav, 30 avril 2011 - 01:31 .


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Saibh wrote...

MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

There has to be an option. I mean, can you imagine how loudly those ped-um, PEOPLE who romanced Liara in ME1 and then Tali in ME2 will cry mommy? There are tons of them. In fact, most of the talimancers cheated on Liara just to be with the buckethead.

And we all know how loudly and frequently those people can cry mommy...


Liara is a century old. Tali is an adult as well. Calling someone a pedophile for liking their romances is like accusing someone of beastiality for liking Thane's, or accusing sexual harassment in the workplace for liking Kaidan, Ashley, Miranda, or Jacob.


QFT

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TriviaAeducan wrote...

Saibh wrote...

MsSihaKatieKrios wrote...

There has to be an option. I mean, can you imagine how loudly those ped-um, PEOPLE who romanced Liara in ME1 and then Tali in ME2 will cry mommy? There are tons of them. In fact, most of the talimancers cheated on Liara just to be with the buckethead.

And we all know how loudly and frequently those people can cry mommy...


Liara is a century old. Tali is an adult as well. Calling someone a pedophile for liking their romances is like accusing someone of beastiality for liking Thane's, or accusing sexual harassment in the workplace for liking Kaidan, Ashley, Miranda, or Jacob.




QFT



wtf... man people got some weird ideas lol.

Thane... and beastiality in the same sentence??? lol wow

Sexual Harassment for living Miri??? Ashley? lol those two women get touched by someone who they dont approve and likely that member hand or otherwise that happended to have touched them will effectively be removed to teach a lesson.

Like suggesting not to play rough with Grunt because "he might" get hurt lol

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How old was Miranda when she met TIM? 17-20 yrs old? I imagine she was green and naive despite her intelligence. And I don't think her joining Cerberus was an accident. TIM may have known what went down between her and her father and steered her towards Cerberus while she was on the lamb. In the beginning of their relationship I see her looking at Cerberus and to an extension TIM as a surrogate parent. As she got older and more experienced she started understanding that she was a valuable asset and nothing more and she accepted her role. Then Battle of the Citadel followed by Project Lazarus happened.

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naledgeborn wrote...

How old was Miranda when she met TIM? 17-20 yrs old?


Miranda is 35, Oriana is 19. 16-17 years old. Maybe even 15. Of course, this is assuming Miranda met TIM the same year she joined Cerberus.

Modifié par MisterJB, 30 avril 2011 - 02:12 .


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I don't think we can necessarily equate recruitment with first meeting. She probably had to prove herself first. I'd guess she actually met him in her early twenties.

Modifié par jtav, 30 avril 2011 - 02:13 .


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jtav wrote...

I don't think we can necessarily equate recruitment with first meeting. She probably had to prove herself first. I'd guess she actually met him in her early twenties.


True. Still hard to imagine Miri as "unexperience" and totally green. They all start small. But hard to imagine Miri in a small position.

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He probably always saw potential in her, but she had to be trained and tested. And I doubt even young Miranda was particularly innocent. Sheltered in some ways, but hardly Paragon. I have a bit of headcanon that she spent time on Omega as a petty thief before making her way to Cerberus.

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MisterJB wrote...

Saibh wrote...
or accusing sexual harassment in the workplace for liking Miranda.

Technically, the Normandy SR-2 is a civilian ship and Cerberus is a terrorist organization.Posted Image

I didn't say fraternization, I said sexual harrassment in the workplace. Miranda is still Shepard's subordinate.

You can argue that Miranda wouldn't put up with harassment if she didn't want to--and I'd agree. But I was equating it to calling someone a pedophile for liking Tali or Liara's romance. In both cases, the person is wrong.

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